[VS] 7G Gai vs Tsunade&Sakura

Joseph Gomes

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Orochimaru has a whole 1 point above Tsunade in speed and she was able to hit him.

Manda is a super fast snake, doesnt matter how big he is. She was able to appear above him without him even knowing.

Its stated already he was so backed up he resorted to a wood clone.

What the...you resort to databook point table now? And how is tanking yasaka magatama any similar to hirudora or asakujaku? Elemental ninjutsu and taijutsu are very different

Yasaka magatama burns skin and flesh. Hirudora is brute force that incapacitates opponents. Hirudora owned a V3 susanoo.

Might Gai can simply blitz tsunade and let her regenerate after she's knocked out. Byakogou is useful for support, not one on one combat. Tsunade has never fought anybody remotely as fast as might gai. Madara never fought with tsunade when Tsunade charged. When madara did fight, tsunade's torso was removed from her legs and she was under a tree.

Dont use the databook for battles.
 

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What the...you resort to databook point table now? And how is tanking yasaka magatama any similar to hirudora or asakujaku? Elemental ninjutsu and taijutsu are very different

Yasaka magatama burns skin and flesh. Hirudora is brute force that incapacitates opponents. Hirudora owned a V3 susanoo.

Might Gai can simply blitz tsunade and let her regenerate after she's knocked out. Byakogou is useful for support, not one on one combat. Tsunade has never fought anybody remotely as fast as might gai. Madara never fought with tsunade when Tsunade charged. When madara did fight, tsunade's torso was removed from her legs and she was under a tree.

Dont use the databook for battles.

I was simply showing you the stats since you said Orochimaru wasnt that fast but he is shown to be faster than Tsunade but Tsunade was still able to hit him.

I showed you her tank and regneration feats. It shows how strong her body is, those magatama cut through Gaara and Onoki's defenses. A smaller one should have easily cut through Tsunade's body but she took it.

The only time Tsunade has ever been knocked out is when she runs out of chakra and was cut in half. Gai is not doing either.

Hirudora is countered by Katsuyu.
 

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I was simply showing you the stats since you said Orochimaru wasnt that fast but he is shown to be faster than Tsunade but Tsunade was still able to hit him.

I showed you her tank and regneration feats. It shows how strong her body is, those magatama cut through Gaara and Onoki's defenses. A smaller one should have easily cut through Tsunade's body but she took it.

The only time Tsunade has ever been knocked out is when she runs out of chakra and was cut in half. Gai is not doing either.

Hirudora is countered by Katsuyu.

Gai will do the same he did to Kisame. It would be easier because Tsunade is slow and doesn't use suiton. Gai beat Kisame in kisame's own turf. Katsuyu is split to a thousand pieces by asakujaku because asakujaku is concentrated attack like shinra tensei. Gai will blitz tsunade after he's sent katsuyu flying in hundreds of pieces. Tsunade cant hide herself in water to protect herself

Tsunade has never fought anybody one on one except kid naruto and shizune. It's hilarious to think she could keep up with someone like guy who is leagues above in speed

I assume you're not experienced in battle threads. Because speedblitz GG is the most common answer when two opponents of unequal speed confront each other. The faster one always wins.

Tsunade could win if she could create wood clone like hashirama to avoid direct conflict, but that aint happening
 

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Gai will do the same he did to Kisame. It would be easier because Tsunade is slow and doesn't use suiton. Gai beat Kisame in kisame's own turf. Katsuyu is split to a thousand pieces by asakujaku because asakujaku is concentrated attack like shinra tensei. Gai will blitz tsunade after he's sent katsuyu flying in hundreds of pieces. Tsunade cant hide herself in water to protect herself

Tsunade has never fought anybody one on one except kid naruto and shizune. It's hilarious to think she could keep up with someone like guy who is leagues above in speed

I assume you're not experienced in battle threads. Because speedblitz GG is the most common answer when two opponents of unequal speed confront each other. The faster one always wins.

Tsunade could win if she could create wood clone like hashirama to avoid direct conflict, but that aint happening

It seems you are the one is not experienced in battle threads. Speedblitz is usually a GG unless the enemy is very hard to kill, which is what is happening here.

Never stated she keeps with him, but could Gaara or Madara keep up with Lee and Gai? No but did they end up beating them, yes they did. Gai is outlasted here by Tsunade who then finishes him off in his weak state.
 

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It seems you are the one is not experienced in battle threads. Speedblitz is usually a GG unless the enemy is very hard to kill, which is what is happening here.

Never stated she keeps with him, but could Gaara or Madara keep up with Lee and Gai? No but did they end up beating them, yes they did. Gai is outlasted here by Tsunade who then finishes him off in his weak state.

Lmao. Gaara has elemental ninjutsu unlike tsunade. His sand is far faster than tsunade could ever hope to be. Part 1 lee has better speed feat than tsunade.

Gai can literally 1 shot tsunade and incapacitate her.

Lee can do the same

[video=youtube;1_bXEx4UQeM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_bXEx4UQeM&app=desktop[/video]

Gai is a hypersonic mountain buster, while tsunade is a supersonic hill buster. Gai is leagues above tsunade. Tsunade is a support medic nin who can fight on the sidelines. She is not a combat expert like Gai. Gai can blitz and kill with kunai. For battles sake, tsunade is allowed to live. In v/s threads, faster opponents always win unless there is intangibility/invulnerability like logia from one piece or juggernaut from marvel
 
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Lmao. Gaara has elemental ninjutsu unlike tsunade. His sand is far faster than tsunade could ever hope to be. Part 1 lee has better speed feat than tsunade.

Gai can literally 1 shot tsunade and incapacitate her.

Lee can do the same

[video=youtube;1_bXEx4UQeM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_bXEx4UQeM&app=desktop[/video]

Gai is a hypersonic mountain buster, while tsunade is a supersonic hill buster. Gai is leagues above tsunade

My points fly right over your head. You dont understand them.

Tsunade does not need sand as protection as her body has been shown to be able to take anything the 6th gate can offer.

Katsuyu tanks Hirudora.

I brought up situations where speed loses and durability/regeneration won. Which is what will happen in this fight between Tsunade and Gai.
 

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My points fly right over your head. You dont understand them.

Tsunade does not need sand as protection as her body has been shown to be able to take anything the 6th gate can offer.

Katsuyu tanks Hirudora.

I brought up situations where speed loses and durability/regeneration won. Which is what will happen in this fight between Tsunade and Gai.

Tsunade has no counter to speedblitz. You are getting the wrong notion.

Asakujaku will finish of katsuyu, while hirudora will finish off tsunade, not the other way round. Tsunade's regen is irrelevant against blunt force, because only katsuyu can tank it. Katsuyu has never shown to tank any concentrated attack as big as hirudora. You do realize how v/s threads work, don't you?

Gai will blitz before tsunade can react. Tsunade doesn't have better reaction time than Kisame, and she's by far the slowest hokage. Tsunade can't tank a mountain buster head on. She can regen as much as she want after she's beaten.

By yiur logic everybody who can regenerate never lose. That means Aizen can beat Madara now? Lol
 

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It is interesting because Guy has never shown to be able to kick someone in half, kick someone's head off while using the 6th and 7th gates.

But ofc this argument is only used in Tsunade/Sakura VS threads.

Kick in half? Lol naw, he'll decapatate them with a standard kunai and god like speed behind it. You should know this by now evil one.
 

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Gai blitzes them with Hirudora.​
 

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The never ending debate thate goes no where.

OT: Gai wins imo. The amount of damage he can freely inflict on Tsunade/Sakura until his stamina wears down is ridiculous and overwhelming even for Byakugou.
 

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The never ending debate thate goes no where.

OT: Gai wins imo. The amount of damage he can freely inflict on Tsunade/Sakura until his stamina wears down is ridiculous and overwhelming even for Byakugou.

Not at all what the manga shows.
 

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Not at all what the manga shows.
That's just his opinion. What damage has a Byakogou user healed from that is on par with what Gai can dish out? Though this is a fight between two Byakugou users, not one. Not to mention 10% Katsuyu. If Gai starts attacking one, the other attacks him from his blindspot, forcing him to avoid but if he avoids the other, the one he was attacking first will have regenerated. This cycle continues until Gai wears out. If Gai opts to use a kunai, they can sacrifice their arms to block their necks. This won't work if they decide to fight on top of Katsuyu anyway.
 
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Can Katsuyu take Hirudora? I don't think so.
 

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The never ending debate thate goes no where.

OT: Gai wins imo. The amount of damage he can freely inflict on Tsunade/Sakura until his stamina wears down is ridiculous and overwhelming even for Byakugou.

Or use a kunai to swipe there head clean off! (If it's a fight to the death)
 

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That's just his opinion. What damage has a Byakogou user healed from that is on par with what Gai can dish out? Though this is a fight between two Byakugou users, not one. Not to mention 10% Katsuyu. If Gai starts attacking one, the other attacks him from his blindspot, forcing him to avoid but if he avoids the other, the one he was attacking first will have regenerated. This cycle continues until Gai wears out.

Tsunade in base has shown to take brutal hits and survive, if you want to test her in Byakugo then she definitely survives anything up to the 6th gate.

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Sword straight through the heart and out her back.


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Multiple deep slashes.


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Transport at the speed of light, something that only someone with steel flesh and iron blood was able to, something that should have ripped her apart. But even with deep wounds she was still able to survive the initial transport and land a kick on Madara.


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She was cut in half and despite that she was still able to summon a large portion of Katsuyu.


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Multiple deep wounds healed right away.


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Susano sword right through her abdomen and spine. She then breaks the sword and removes the part that was in her.


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Three yasaka magatama at point blank range. Magatama are strong enough to almost break the sand and rock defense of Gaara and Onoki. She is then thrown back hard breaking rocks.


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She is seen fighting with two different susano swords in her abdomen, was still able to throw a punch.


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Katon - Ryuuen Houka no justu which she pushed back with her arms and healed the burns.
 
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Not a chance of that happening. Not when it had enough power to destroy Susanoo.

But with even more power it could not kill Kisame and water as protection. Katsuyu is more than enough + Tsunade's regeneration. Yeah Hiurdora is countered.
 

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But with even more power it could not kill Kisame and water as protection. Katsuyu is more than enough + Tsunade's regeneration. Yeah Hiurdora is countered.

Kisame didn't take the full power of Hirudora. The intent was alongside the fact that Gai could have killed him here . Why didn't he? Rather his aim was to widen the scope and get back their intel.

It's Ridiculous to believe this guy's durability is the same as Susanoo's when he got killed by his own sharks eating him Can that happen to Susano'o?

Susano'o did get destroyed as well

- Madara wanted to get the Bijuus quickly. Why leave Obito on his own to battle them? He scolded Obito for even this Why would he then leave them?

- Why was he out for almost an entire Chapter?

- Mokutun grip loosened. That only happens if the user gets hit. The user was protected by Susanoo..How did he get hit?

Hirudora would definitely take her down. Also, we had an argument once about Asakujaku being able to ignite her.
 

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Gai solos.

-Kisame did not take the brunt of Hirudora's attack power, as some guys above me already explained......
-Too fast for Tsunade and Sakura to hit him, given how he pushed back JJ madara for a little while.
- Hirudora blew open a v3 Susanoo, so unless Tsunade/Sakura's durability is far above a v3 Susanoo(roughly around a v4 Susanoo's durability), they get turned into maroon paste, especially since Gai can output damage at a faster rate than they can heal.
-Gai stayed in the 8th gate for quite some time against Rikudo Madara(longer than the sages conversation) and also used Hirudora while exhausted against Madara. So stamina isn't an issue.
-EVEN IF Tsunade/Sakura somehow heal from the damage of Gai's onslaught, a man like him should be smart enough to fall back of decapitation.(after all, even gated Lee skillfully used a kunai in the Madara fight)

So Gai wins mid to high diff I think.
 
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