[VS] 7G Gai vs Tsunade&Sakura

Conspirator. · Dec 4, 2014

Just to point out........

-ST doesn't do as much damage per unit area as you go further from the epicentre. It's just like the Juubi's tenpechii. Fodders with a cloak survived it, as did Madara's v3 Susanoo. The reason being that the damage per unit area was less, even though it was a massive attack. OTOH, Hirudora absolutely raped Madara's v3 Susanoo. The reason being that the damage is more focused. There's no evidence that Katsuyu can tank survive such an attack. To tank it, she would have to be far more durable than a v3 Susanoo, so that would be most likely close to a v4 Susanoo. Just to point out, Madara's v4 withstood the impact of Mokujin slamming a TBB from the kyuubi onto it's sword, and there's definitely no evidence that the slug is that durable.....
-Gai doesn't even need Hirudora. He can simply outright blitz(as he pushed back JJ Madara) with his continuous speed and blow off their limbs with his punches and kicks that crushed the toes of the Gedo Mazo. And EVEN IF, by some miracle, Tsunade and Sakura can heal from such damage, Gai can always fall back on decapitation. 6th gate Lee was extremely skilled with a kunai, and I think Minato complimented him. So there's no reason why Gai can slice their heads off.

Either way,Gai stomps.

RedRobin · Dec 4, 2014

SkyFall25 said:
Just to point out........

-ST doesn't do as much damage per unit area as you go further from the epicentre. It's just like the Juubi's tenpechii. Fodders with a cloak survived it, as did Madara's v3 Susanoo. The reason being that the damage per unit area was less, even though it was a massive attack. OTOH, Hirudora absolutely raped Madara's v3 Susanoo. The reason being that the damage is more focused. There's no evidence that Katsuyu can tank survive such an attack. To tank it, she would have to be far more durable than a v3 Susanoo, so that would be most likely close to a v4 Susanoo. Just to point out, Madara's v4 withstood the impact of Mokujin slamming a TBB from the kyuubi onto it's sword, and there's definitely no evidence that the slug is that durable.....
-Gai doesn't even need Hirudora. He can simply outright blitz(as he pushed back JJ Madara) with his continuous speed and blow off their limbs with his punches and kicks that crushed the toes of the Gedo Mazo. And EVEN IF, by some miracle, Tsunade and Sakura can heal from such damage, Gai can always fall back on decapitation. 6th gate Lee was extremely skilled with a kunai, and I think Minato complimented him. So there's no reason why Gai can slice their heads off.

Either way,Gai stomps.

- Katsuyu was not far from the epicenter. She was all over Konoha. So she definitely got damage at the epicenter and easily survived it.

- You cant compare Susano to katsuyu. Susano is a hard substance while Katsuyu is like a sponge that absorbs physical hits. Because V3 was destroyed means nothing to Katsuyu.

- Fanfiction, Gai is not blowing no limbs off, sorry not happening Didnt even crush the toe. Gai never resorted to cutting anyone heads off instead he used his techniques. The actual weapon he used was nunchcuks.

V h o · Dec 4, 2014

Midday tiger isn't a physical attack right? Thought for sure it was just compressed air pressure.

RedRobin · Dec 4, 2014

Volk said:
Midday tiger isn't a physical attack right? Thought for sure it was just compressed air pressure.

Is air pressure not physical hit......

super yang · Dec 4, 2014

Did Gai win yet?

V h o · Dec 4, 2014

PawsX said:
Is air pressure not physical hit......

Depends on your definition of physical....

RedRobin · Dec 4, 2014

Volk said:
Depends on your definition of physical....

What would you call it?

V h o · Dec 4, 2014

PawsX said:
What would you call it?

Well I did ask the question Zzz...

TheEvilOne · Dec 4, 2014

No matter how we look at it, Guy isn't taking Tsunade down with Hirudora.

Out of character Guy can beat her by snapping her neck and kicking her head until she can't regenerate, but let's admit, that's fanfiction.

paratise · Dec 4, 2014

VS's context is fanfiction.

TheEvilOne · Dec 4, 2014

paratise said:
VS's context is fanfiction.

Yes, it is, but the characters are usually IC, unless stated otherwise by the OP.

neosmith500 · Dec 4, 2014

TheEvilOne said:
No matter how we look at it, Guy isn't taking Tsunade down with Hirudora.

Out of character Guy can beat her by snapping her neck and kicking her head until she can't regenerate, but let's admit, that's fanfiction.

7G Gai bust there skulls open with Nunchaku, Thats not fanfiction as even base guy demonstrated enough strength to easily do this Lol
Or is that fanfiction too?
Gai wins this easily.

TheEvilOne · Dec 4, 2014

neosmith500 said:
7G Gai bust there skulls open with Nunchaku, Thats not fanfiction as even base guy demonstrated enough strength to easily do this Lol
Or is that fanfiction too?
Gai wins this easily.

Still fanfiction, unless you can post scans where Guy can do that.

KidGamer65 · Dec 5, 2014

PawsX said:
Tenpachi is so much more different than ST or Hirudora. ST and Hirduora focus a lot of power in one place. Yes I already showed you ST focuses its power into the epicenter and eats right into the ground decimating everything near. If Hirudora hit into the ground wouldnt at all make as much damage as ST or even eat into the ground as much. She took no damage at all, this only shows her hype in the databook is not just hype.

Bold is a flat out lie, or you just plain ignoring manga panels. An attack that spread out throughout the whole village is not a focused attack, that is a widespread attack. There is no difference between CST and Tenpenchii in that case. None whatsoever. They are both widespread and they do NOT focus a lot of energy on one point.

So no, tanking CST is not a feat, unless you want to say that Hirudora>Tenpenchii, and that Fodder Anbu can tank CST just as good as Katsuyu can.

Kastuyu was all over the damaged areas which where very close to the epicenter, she absorbed people and saved them. Taking no damage herself.

Except everything close to the epicenter was obliterated, so no, wrong again.

Its different kind of damage. Decomposing something is different from physical attack but I was just pointing out again to show you what her substance is able to survive.

Different kind of damage, at the end of the day though, it doesn't matter, cause it's still damage. If it's best feat is melting a snake, it shouldn't be mentioned.

Have you ever touched a slug, its squishy like a sponge, its clear she absorbs physical hits due to her body being that substance. Again comparing susano to Katsuyu is not doing nothing for you, Susano is hard everywhere, there is nothing hard about Katsuyu, she doesnt even have bones.

Squishy=/=Able to absorb physical hits. If slugs could absorb physical hits, slugs wouldn't be able to be crushed. Sponges can't be crushed. Slugs can, thus this is a wrong comparison.

And you are going to need to prove to me that this is going to make a difference. Katsuyu not being made of the same stuff as Susanoo doesn't automatically mean she can tank more than Susanoo can. Prove that her composition lets her tank more than Susanoo can.

Lets stop with the bad logic now.

So saying Hiurdora destroys her because it destroyed V3 is a bad argument. TBB is not even a physical attack though.[/QUOTE]

RedRobin · Dec 5, 2014

KidGamer65 said:
Bold is a flat out lie, or you just plain ignoring manga panels. An attack that spread out throughout the whole village is not a focused attack, that is a widespread attack. There is no difference between CST and Tenpenchii in that case. None whatsoever. They are both widespread and they do NOT focus a lot of energy on one point.

So no, tanking CST is not a feat, unless you want to say that Hirudora>Tenpenchii, and that Fodder Anbu can tank CST just as good as Katsuyu can.

Except everything close to the epicenter was obliterated, so no, wrong again.

Different kind of damage, at the end of the day though, it doesn't matter, cause it's still damage. If it's best feat is melting a snake, it shouldn't be mentioned.

Squishy=/=Able to absorb physical hits. If slugs could absorb physical hits, slugs wouldn't be able to be crushed. Sponges can't be crushed. Slugs can, thus this is a wrong comparison.

And you are going to need to prove to me that this is going to make a difference. Katsuyu not being made of the same stuff as Susanoo doesn't automatically mean she can tank more than Susanoo can. Prove that her composition lets her tank more than Susanoo can.

Lets stop with the bad logic now.

So saying Hiurdora destroys her because it destroyed V3 is a bad argument. TBB is not even a physical attack though.

You cannot compare these two techniques.

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Tenpachii has 18 different things causing damage to different areas. While CST focuses in one place and causes destruction outward.

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Katsuyu was in the area of the red boxes, she obviously took the hits at where the destruction was most severe and was decimating things to nothing. She absorbed people and were pushed back. Obviously