[VS] 6 Tails Naruto vs KCM Naruto

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All I can say is:

- Hashi was in the same spot
- He was on top of Mokujin previously
- Mokujin got destroyed..If it's destroyed, how's Hobi still going to be in Mid air when it was on top of something and that thing got destroyed? Therefore Hobi landed on the ground since it won't make sense for Hashi to tank it with his body.
- Pushed back? Where did you get that from?

You're claiming Hashi jumped down to create Hobi with no evidence of him doing so.

- Agree
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- @Bold: Agree. @Underline: I didn't say that it will still be in mid air, my point is newton's laws should of taken place here.
- Newton's law. If Hobi is falling down, during the blast force of TBB, the force of blast should have push Hobi back, even by a little, not be in the same position. Your suggesting Hobi is defying the motion of the blast force and lands completely on the same position Hashirama is.

Were both aren't using evidence, were going by whos interpretation is more probable.

Since when is Hashirama jumping from his position, down to the ground, and then using Hobi even though no such movement is shown or hinted at a more probable argument, than him using the hand sign he made in the panel, to make Hobi and block the explosion

@Bold you have no evidence to state it was never hinted. Just like you have no evidence to state when exactly Hobi was made. Both of us are basing it off by probable conclusions.

He was still forming Mokujin when he had his hands clapped, so that isn't an argument.

I was referring to the first page of ch. 621.

PS was materialized mid explosion.

Obviously. But its clear materialization doesn't work instantly. My point is, not seeing what exactly happen doesn't mean it didn't happened.

Hobi was performed right before the explosion.

We both agree that it occurred before it exploded to protect Hashirama.

The explosion caused him to end up on the floor. The ground was covered by Mokuton Branches, so no, Hashirama couldn't have gone down there and used Hobi.

Since when does breaches block the floor, that is bad reasoning.


If he's caught in the explosion, he won't be pushed anywhere. B was caught in his Bijuu Dama and the only thing that pushed him was the impact of the ball itself, the explosion didn't, so it won't do it to Hashirama either.


That isn't even remotely the same scenario, pointing at Mokuton's. The blast force push all Mokuton[ ] backwards. Mokuton is no where as dense as Susanoo, so Hobi being created should of at least be pushed in mid air, since it isn't standing on nothing.

As Evani posted, Hashirama is in the same exact position his Mokujin was in, there is no way he'd be in that position unless he didn't fall down there, since he can't be there while Mokujin is there.
 
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@Bold you have no evidence to state it was never hinted. Just like you have no evidence to state when exactly Hobi was made. Both of us are basing it off by probable conclusions.

What you are saying makes no sense. If it was hinted, it would have been hinted in the manga. Since it wasn't hinted, it wasn't hinted. That simple, unless you want to show me where it was ever hinted that he moved down.

I was referring to the first page of ch. 621.
That wasn't for Mokujin, you keep saying it was, but the formation of Hobi disagrees.


Obviously. But its clear materialization doesn't work instantly. My point is, not seeing what exactly happen doesn't mean it didn't happened.

When nothing supports your stance, yes, that's exactly what it means.


We both agree that it occurred before it exploded to protect Hashirama.



Since when does breaches block the floor, that is bad reasoning.


All you see are the branches, no ground, so no, if he had jumped down, he'd be on a branch, not on the ground. Regardless of that, where he was is the same position of his Mokujin, unless you are telling me he jumped off of Mokujin and somehow occupied the same exact post as the construct (which is physically impossible) then your argumentation is wrong.



That isn't even remotely the same scenario, pointing at Mokuton's. The blast force push all Mokuton[ ] backwards. Mokuton is no where as dense as Susanoo, so Hobi being created should of at least be pushed in mid air, since it isn't standing on nothing.

-Bijuu Dama explodes in front of Killer B.

-Bijuu Dama explodes in front of Hashirama.

Same exact scenario. What you are showing is nothing but debris and dust settling from the attack. All Mokuton caught in the vicinity was vaporized, not blown away. Same goes for Hashirama and his Hobi.
 
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