[Spoilers] 4th type of haki

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illexplain myself better
rayleigh doesnt have the voice of all things so he could not teach it.
so if it is a fourth type of haki like my SPOILER says. it has not been mentioned as a type of haki.
now i think the voice of all things allows your inner voice to understand everyone elses inner voice.
this is how luffy meets up with people and sides with them. nami being a slave to fishmen his inner voice heard hers and freed her. he has heard all of this crew inner voice. brooks was saying he was lonely so luffy let him join the crew the second he asked. luffy unconsciously hears his inner voice. VOAT allowing him to do that.
now cobi to me has shown that he has an inner voice during the war of the best. he just got overloaded with it. I think his inner voice called to luffys in the punch and luffys inner voice help to unlock his subconscious power. and also opened up his other haki's. to become stronger like he was saying. now people are going to say its observation haki he shows during the war. NO because observation allows you too hear and see what coming and there haki's. it has never been said that observation haki allows you to hear how people are feeling inside. like during the war ace tells luffy to go but luffy knows he wants to live and tells him im going to save you. aces feeling changed right after he said that and so did everyone elses. cause he called out what all their inner voices where saying. At this point is when wb tells marco make sure he lives threw the war.
now observation haki is what allows enel to hear and see everything but he could not hear any inner voice AKA the VOAT.
now if VOAT is an advanced form of observation haki more people would have it.
now it could be an advanced form of the rarest haki conquers haki. this could be very likely. but then rayleigh would of said something. conquers is wills not voice. my will will over power your will. AKA UFC fighting they allows talk about the will to win on conquer you opponent.

So to me its the rarest haki and the reason roger was the PK and luffy will be the PK. this voice makes luffy DEFEND people and country’s from evel or just the pain that will be left if he does nothing. so maybe D means Defender. which is what the world government claims to be. it also allows luffy to get people to side with him. Croc being a main one to me. and the reason is cause he freed him from prison. I think croc was under orders to destroy alabasta from wb AKA nobles. because this was the only kingdom that the royalty did not go marjolis " sorry on the spelling" so luffy kicked his ass for causing pain too people but could feel that he was not all bad and freed him.

sorry if any mistakes before just trying to clarify what im thinking.
 

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So your saying it's a more advanced form of observation haki? Likely but I don't think it is. People that trained in haki have not shown these feats yet a little girl can use it across a whole island.
It is CoO. The Skypieans didn't bother seeing it as something different. The Marine doctor didn't bother seeing it as something different. Rayleigh didn't bother seeing it as something different. No one referred to it ever as it being something different other than haki. Rayleigh was able to locate Luffy the moment he set afoot on Shabaondy and he knew to estimate immediately around how many dangerous animals there were on Rusukaina and how strong they were, meaning he can do it across large territories.

Your logic? "I don't believe it's haki so it must be something else". =/
 

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It is CoO. The Skypieans didn't bother seeing it as something different. The Marine doctor didn't bother seeing it as something different. Rayleigh didn't bother seeing it as something different. No one referred to it ever as it being something different other than haki. Rayleigh was able to locate Luffy the moment he set afoot on Shabaondy and he knew to estimate immediately around how many dangerous animals there were on Rusukaina and how strong they were, meaning he can do it across large territories.

Your logic? "I don't believe it's haki so it must be something else". =/
I never said it was not Haki. If it was observation haki then anyone would of done it and used it during the war and all the tricks the marines tried would failed. Rayleigh was simple able to sense luffy and the animals which doesn't mean he can also hear voices. The fact that she can use it on the scale of an island without training futher the point that it's not observation haki. Unless you are saying she is better in haki than people that actually trained who never showed this feat? I also dont remember it ever being stated observation haki gave someone the ability to hear voices.
 

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The fact that she can use it on the scale of an island without training futher the point that it's not observation haki. Unless you are saying she is better in haki than people that actually trained who never showed this feat?
It's not outside of the realms of possibility. Most Shonen anime have characters that appear to have a natural talent for certain things, whereas some characters have to work really hard to achieve the same thing, it's the nature of the game with these types of stories. In Aisa's case, if she had the inclination to bcome a pirate, she would probably be a prodigy of some sort in CoO, but as the story goes, she's not and is quite happy living on Skypiea and it's just an example of sombody with an affinity for that type of Haki.

On another note, really looking forward to seeing Usopp advance more now that he's unlocked CoO, he is going to be so sick its unreal, he was already an incredible sniper as it was!
 

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I never said it was not Haki. If it was observation haki then anyone would of done it and used it during the war and all the tricks the marines tried would failed. Rayleigh was simple able to sense luffy and the animals which doesn't mean he can also hear voices. The fact that she can use it on the scale of an island without training futher the point that it's not observation haki. Unless you are saying she is better in haki than people that actually trained who never showed this feat? I also dont remember it ever being stated observation haki gave someone the ability to hear voices.
This is just regular CoO, there is no difference. The series itself clearly makes that obvious and there is ZERO reason to assume it's not. What do you not understand that there is a huge variety in how well someone can use it and has a natural talent for it? I already explained this. Yes she is better than most people, it's that simple and the CoO is not limited to just sensing presences.

I suggest you read the page of CoO on One Piece wikia as there it is all explained. Otohime was also a person who had the same ability and again confirmed as being CoO. The CoO has strong emphatic abilities, meaning you can understand the emotions of other people directly, which is just one step away of mind reading. It's not so much that they can hear voices, but that they can understand the exact feelings of others which gets visually represented as them hearing voices. Cobi's CoO got suddenly activated during a massive battle where thousands of people were dying, what he heard were the strong emotions of all these people. Same thing with that little girl who heard people disappear in the battle with Enel. Both of them were almost traumatized, showing that despite their natural affinity, due to lack of training they were very poor at controlling it.

Fact this is CoO, no discussion here.
 

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so because of CoO roger luffy and mermaid princess could hear sea kings. no its because the 3 of them have the rarest form of haki VOAT. and the mermaid princess has a more natural ability to it cause she can talk with them.
 

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This is just regular CoO, there is no difference. The series itself clearly makes that obvious and there is ZERO reason to assume it's not. What do you not understand that there is a huge variety in how well someone can use it and has a natural talent for it? I already explained this. Yes she is better than most people, it's that simple and the CoO is not limited to just sensing presences.

I suggest you read the page of CoO on One Piece wikia as there it is all explained. Otohime was also a person who had the same ability and again confirmed as being CoO. The CoO has strong emphatic abilities, meaning you can understand the emotions of other people directly, which is just one step away of mind reading. It's not so much that they can hear voices, but that they can understand the exact feelings of others which gets visually represented as them hearing voices. Cobi's CoO got suddenly activated during a massive battle where thousands of people were dying, what he heard were the strong emotions of all these people. Same thing with that little girl who heard people disappear in the battle with Enel. Both of them were almost traumatized, showing that despite their natural affinity, due to lack of training they were very poor at controlling it.

Fact this is CoO, no discussion here.
Believe what you want but the manga will prove you wrong in time.
 

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What if there is only one Haki power? What if there are no types? What if Haki is a single ability just like Luffy's devil fruit which can be used in many different ways?
 

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What if there is only one Haki power? What if there are no types? What if Haki is a single ability just like Luffy's devil fruit which can be used in many different ways?
Haha, deep. Maybe absolutely everything is Haki, including the Devil Fruits, which just allow your bodies physiology to use Haki in a different kind of way. :p

Nahhhh just kidding.
 
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