3T Madara versus Base / KCM Minato

[pateuvasiliu]

He covered his Ribs with Enton and Ae was using V1 Raiton Armour them? Cool story. FYI, Sasuke could still see him in V2, but his body couldn't react to that speed. Get your facts straight.

False, since Amaterasu missed.

He couldn't follow, because the Sharingan can't track Ay's speed.

Get your facts straight.

Yes he had the rinnegan activated but I haven't heard of the Rinnegan granting cognitive abilities like the sharingan.

Madara's Rinnegan has the abilities of his Sharingan added to it.

 

[Murasame]

Madara's Rinnegan has the abilities of his Sharingan added to it.

Well if that's true then my point still stands unless Rinnegan improves the cognitive abilites of the sharingan.

 

[Shura]

Madara isn't getting blitzed. I love how Minato fans always claim that he blitzes everyone and gg when in the manga a speedblitz has never been a gg. And Madara reacted to Ay's and Naruto's speed anyways.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Madara isn't getting blitzed. I love how Minato fans always claim that he blitzes everyone and gg when in the manga a speedblitz has never been a gg. And Madara reacted to Ay's and Naruto's speed anyways.

Madara used Susanoo to protect himself from Ay and Naruto never used his full speed against Madara.

Don't bring the fanboy argument, because it's pretty known you're a Minato hater, so your argument isn't any less biased.

 

[Shura]

Madara used Susanoo to protect himself from Ay and Naruto never used his full speed against Madara.

Don't bring the fanboy argument, because it's pretty known you're a Minato hater, so your argument isn't any less biased.

I'm a Minato hater? Funny how he happens to be my favorite Hokage, right?

And Madara wasn't even alarmed after seeing Ay's or Naruto's speed. He didn't block Ay's punch with Susano'o, he simply covered himself with his arms and furthermore, Mei used that Lava technique to bring his attention to it while Ay tried to hit him from the side. As for Naruto, yes he was going at his full speed. Why the hell wouldn't he go at his full speed if his intention was to hit Madara with a Rasengan?

 

[Murasame]

Madara used Susanoo to protect himself from Ay and Naruto never used his full speed against Madara.

Don't bring the fanboy argument, because it's pretty known you're a Minato hater, so your argument isn't any less biased.

Nah he reacted to Ay's full speed in the scans I provided.. it wasn't until Onoki made him lighter (faster) that he needed Susanoo and it wasn't all Ay either he was also fighting against a team of Kages..

 

[shelke]

False, since Amaterasu missed.

He couldn't follow, because the Sharingan can't track Ay's speed.

Get your facts straight.

Sometimes you simply argue for the sake of arguing and it gets annoying -

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- He is looking in Raikage's direction and then coats his Susano'o.

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- he is looking at Raikage before he even attacked and coats his rib-cage with Enton.

Rinnegan has ZERO pre-cog abilities. This isn't even debatable. The irony. You try so desperately to give Minato some props. Lol

 

[Strict]

The question is, whether Minato can land just one hit. If he does, he wins because Madara is marked and the MS (Susanoo) is restricted.

Using his Kunai effectively on a field Madara can change to his advantage will be hard. He can cover the landscape with a forest which will be hard to avoid for Minato. Even if we consider a scenario where Minato already put his markings somewhere out of range, he will basically do nothing but escape. Fighting a Mokuton user of Madara's level in such forest will prove great difficulties, especially when Madara can use dozens of Mokuton Bunshin which had still the level of Chakra to maintain Susanoo. Madara could simply disappear within his clones or hide somewhere in the forest, even able to integrate in the trees [

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]. Unlike Minato, Madara can also see through Kagebunshin and also proved that he can react on someone with the speed of Ay and Naruto.

Remembering Madara's first shot with a less scaled Mokuton technique, Naruto already exhausted himself by stopping this single attack with the aid of Kyuubi's Chakra [

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[Shura]

The question is, whether Minato can land just one hit. If he does, he wins because Madara is marked and the MS (Susanoo) is restricted.

Using his Kunai effectively on a field Madara can change to his advantage will be hard. He can cover the landscape with a forest which will be hard to avoid for Minato. Even if we consider a scenario where Minato already put his markings somewhere out of range, he will basically do nothing but escape. Fighting a Mokuton user of Madara's level in such forest will prove great difficulties, especially when Madara can use dozens of Mokuton Bunshin which had still the level of Chakra to maintain Susanoo. Madara could simply disappear within his clones or hide somewhere in the forest, even able to integrate in the trees [

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]. Unlike Minato, Madara can also see through Kagebunshin and also proved that he can react on someone with the speed of Ay and Naruto.

Remembering Madara's first shot with a less scaled Mokuton technique, Naruto already exhausted himself by stopping this single attack with the aid of Kyuubi's Chakra [

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but even if Madara does get marked he would see the Hiraishin marking due to the Sharingan being able to see the Chakra. Once he sees it, he can simply make Mokuton spikes produce themselves from that part of his body similiar to what Obito did [

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[Bogard]

The question is, whether Minato can land just one hit. If he does, he wins because Madara is marked and the MS (Susanoo) is restricted.

Using his Kunai effectively on a field Madara can change to his advantage will be hard. He can cover the landscape with a forest which will be hard to avoid for Minato. Even if we consider a scenario where Minato already put his markings somewhere out of range, he will basically do nothing but escape. Fighting a Mokuton user of Madara's level in such forest will prove great difficulties, especially when Madara can use dozens of Mokuton Bunshin which had still the level of Chakra to maintain Susanoo. Madara could simply disappear within his clones or hide somewhere in the forest, even able to integrate in the trees [

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]. Unlike Minato, Madara can also see through Kagebunshin and also proved that he can react on someone with the speed of Ay and Naruto.

Remembering Madara's first shot with a less scaled Mokuton technique, Naruto already exhausted himself by stopping this single attack with the aid of Kyuubi's Chakra [

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Like i've explained in the Hashirama thread, one possibility to counter the FTW would be to simply throw it in the opposite direction of the jutsu formation [

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], so basically in Hashirama's direction since the flower tree world is a straight forward jutsu so i don't think it affects the area where Hashirama(or Madara) is supposed to be behind the formation of the technique

Meanwhile he would even take advantage of this to engage with Madara in close combat where he would have the advantage due to his superiority in speed

Also if we're talking about KCM Minato, like i've also explained he has the use of long range chakra arms

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Chakra arms have been shown to be difficult to dodge by themselves [

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Using them in combination with his kunais will make this move even more dangerous. He can proceed the same way Naruto did against 3rd Raikage for example using the chakra arms as a support to throw kunais away when it's in the range [

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And with the range of Minato's chakra arms that he has displayed in latest chapter, it would be difficult for Madara to escape a Hiraishin blitz even from a great distance especially without protection

 

[Strict]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but even if Madara does get marked he would see the Hiraishin marking due to the Sharingan being able to see the Chakra. Once he sees it, he can simply make Mokuton spikes produce themselves from that part of his body similiar to what Obito did [

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] and Hiraishin marking will move to the Mokuton Spikes which Madara can break off in order to get rid off the Hiraishin marking. I might be wrong tho'.

Well, that sounds to good to be true smh. Obito did also have the Sharingan and Mokuton and yet wore the marking all the time. If it was successful to teleport to Obito again after he was marked [

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[Shura]

Well, that sounds to good to be true smh. Obito did also have the Sharingan and Mokuton and yet wore the marking all the time. If it was successful to teleport to Obito again after he was marked [

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], I guess it could also be successful in Madara's case.

True, but Minato marked Obito's back so Obito couldn't even see the marking with his Sharingan. [

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