3T Madara versus Base / KCM Minato

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Funny that anyone counters Uchiha Genjutsu since knowing the power of Uchiha.

Nagato sensed Amaterasu, yes, but on another way than Obito did. He felt a pressure from soaring heat, the same Zetsu felt. And both were standing next to Itachi and could concentrate on sensing as they were not involved into battle. Obito on the other hand sensed the instant Amaterasu of Sasuke through Chakra concentration in his eye. The interesting thing is, that Nagato didn't sense the actual usage of Amaterasu but got the flames with a smile at his face. Reason, because this pressure (signalizing the heat of Amaterasu) a sensor feels when standing to the user occurs only once. Yet, in periods where Amaterasu is used instantly, it's impossible to even sense, because it happens instantly.

Sensing an attack in battle is not effective, as stated by Shee. Even if Nagato could, it still doesn't put Minato on that level.

 

[Bogard]

How does Madara avoid this move again?

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These chakra arms make even Bijuus look like small ants. I can't even imagine how dangerous this move can be in combination with FTG kunais. Not only it's difficult to dodge them, but because of the kunais being around the area, it allows Minato to finish off a nearby opponent in an instant

Worse being worse if Minato even combine this move with the use of clones

 

[KidGamer65]

If Ay can blitz Sasuke, I can't see why Minato, whom is faster than KCM Naruto whom is faster than Ay, can't.

......You were talking about KCM Minato. My bad. I forgot that there were two scenarios with him as one of them....

Minato wins Scenario 2.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Yeah I don't think anyone would argue base Minato wins this.

 

[shelke]

The thought of Minato being even close to Nagato in sensing department is laughable. Madara takes both scenarios through Flower Tree World. Wood Dragon is called in to suppress KCM Minato's Yin Kurama's Chakra. No way in hell is Minato wining any one of these scenarios.

 

[Unorthodox]

i forgot the wood dragon alone basically took down bm kurama madara wins both scenarios as chakra arms are but useless when the pollen world will grow on sight if kurama chakra turned wood dragon into a forest image what it will do to a real forest

Madara wins scenario one 1 with ease

scenario 2 with less effort also kurama wasit restricted from madara just for minato

 

[Shura]

i forgot the wood dragon alone basically took down bm kurama madara wins both scenarios as chakra arms are but useless when the pollen world will grow on sight if kurama chakra turned wood dragon into a forest image what it will do to a real forest

Madara wins scenario one 1 with ease

scenario 2 with less effort also kurama wasit restricted from madara just for minato

Nope. You read it wrong. I restricted the Kyuubi from Madara in both scenarios.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

The thought of Minato being even close to Nagato in sensing department is laughable. Madara takes both scenarios through Flower Tree World. Wood Dragon is called in to suppress KCM Minato's Yin Kurama's Chakra. No way in hell is Minato wining any one of these scenarios.

Flower Tree World implies he can actually use the jutsu before getting blitzed.

 

[Unorthodox]

Flower Tree World implies he can actually use the jutsu before getting blitzed.

blitz what he gets close this happens

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Madara isnt getting blitz anyways 35meters is 114 feet he isnt speedblitzing shit

 

[shelke]

^ Yup, that is totally happening.

 

[Shura]

Minato is gonna blitz Madara? You mean just like BM Naruto did and then got his Rasengan blitzed back into his face?

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[shelke]

@Akatsuki Church

No Minato fan is gonna listen to you. Lol

 

[Shura]

@Akatsuki Church

No Minato fan is gonna listen to you. Lol

They are basically the same as Tobirama fans. I already know they're not gonna listen. Lol

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Naruto wasn't even going at high speed there. He was not going in a straight line and didn't use shunshin.

It's mangafact V2 Ay's speed can't be tracked by the Sharingan and Minato is above that in KCM.

Unless you have proof Madara's 3T somehow has better cognitive abilities than Sasuke and Madara has the necessary speed to react to it.

 

[Unorthodox]

Naruto wasn't even going at high speed there. He was not going in a straight line and didn't use shunshin.

It's mangafact V2 Ay's speed can't be tracked by the Sharingan and Minato is above that in KCM.

Unless you have proof Madara's 3T somehow has better cognitive abilities than Sasuke and Madara has the necessary speed to react to it.

keep saying blitz he isnt blitzing someone who is sasuke speed and is 114 feet away with 3tomoe and no ftg set sasuke tracked a movement as he enton counterd a in v2 stage minato is shitted on

 

[Avinash012]

keep saying blitz he isnt blitzing someone who is sasuke speed and is 114 feet away with 3tomoe and no ftg set sasuke tracked a movement as he enton counterd a in v2 stage minato is shitted on

Say what..?

Take a look at this scan

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He run around Juubi and placed Kunai like it was nothing & u r saying that 144m is a factor...?

DO the match ...

Sasuke keep up with Ay..?

where did u get that crap from..?

The fact that he used Enton as a shield proves that he can't keep up with him and that is in his V1...Sharingan can't keep up with Ay's v2 and need to bring u the scan where Madara failed to avoid Ay's attack and covered himself with Susanoo..?

OT : Mianto takes this...

 

[Shura]

Say what..?

Take a look at this scan

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He run around Juubi and placed Kunai like it was nothing & u r saying that 144m is a factor...?

DO the match ...

Sasuke keep up with Ay..?

where did u get that crap from..?

The fact that he used Enton as a shield proves that he can't keep up with him and that is in his V1...Sharingan can't keep up with Ay's v2 and need to bring u the scan where Madara failed to avoid Ay's attack and covered himself with Susanoo..?

OT : Mianto takes this...

Incorrect.

I don't necessarily want to be dragged into this discussion, just want to point out that Minato did not place the Kunai around the Juubi while already be present at the battlefield. He most likely placed them already before he showed his presence on the battlefield, hence Hiruzen asked him whether the markings were already set. We didn't see Minato setting the Kunai on screen.

 

[Bogard]

Incorrect.

Not trying to enter a discussion, but just saying that i already replied to his post by saying this

Well whether it was before, after or at the moment he was showed, he still did it in one-go since the alliance was about to get crushed at any moment, so it's not possible that he took his time circling the Juubi to place them when the alliance was about to get crushed especially when you know he even got the time to go near a far away rock to place one another just to save the alliance. He most likely threw them when he arrived and prepared what was necessary to save the alliance

Something he agreed with through his rep

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[shelke]

Sasuke keep up with Ay..?

where did u get that crap from..?

The fact that he used Enton as a shield proves that he can't keep up with him and that is in his V1...Sharingan can't keep up with Ay's v2 and need to bring u the scan where Madara failed to avoid Ay's attack and covered himself with Susanoo..?

OT : Mianto takes this.

He covered his Ribs with Enton and Ae was using V1 Raiton Armour them? Cool story. FYI, Sasuke could still see him in V2, but his body couldn't react to that speed. Get your facts straight.

 

[Murasame]

Naruto wasn't even going at high speed there. He was not going in a straight line and didn't use shunshin.

It's mangafact V2 Ay's speed can't be tracked by the Sharingan and Minato is above that in KCM.

Unless you have proof Madara's 3T somehow has better cognitive abilities than Sasuke and Madara has the necessary speed to react to it.

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Yes he had the rinnegan activated but I haven't heard of the Rinnegan granting cognitive abilities like the sharingan.