3rd Raikage vs Jiraiya
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Alphonse Elric
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You guys forget about his frog genjutsu. It takes time to prepare. Time that j-man doesn't have. The third is as fast if not faster then the fourth. He wouldn't have time to go into sage mode to begin with.
MinatoFLASH
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He is not faster and Gamabunta can stall time, he even stalled the Kyuubi when Minato was preparing the repear dead seal sooooo....
Alphonse Elric
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It took a while for him to summon ma and pa.. I think the raikage could kill the toad before then. And if I remember correctly minato got the kyuubi's claws in his chest. >.>
MinatoFLASH
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Idk bout the claw part but it cud be because he had to go near it for the sealing jutsu or maybe he jus didn't care becuz he had to die anyways. Also ma and pa do not take a long time to summon at all. As soon as Gami is summoned then Ma and Pa can prepare SM while Gami is jumping really high and holding 3rd of with his strength. Meanwhile J-man can be summoning other toads to occupy 3rd as well. And then SM= Pwnage time! He wud then use his amazing power boost rasengan which may not be as strong as rasenshuriken or maybe but anyways, ma and pa wud just be singing the genjutsu and within seconds the 3rd Raikage wud find himself in a genjutsu then die. Plus J-man has other crazy jutsu like dark swamp and etc but as soon as he gets him with the genjustu its over.
Alphonse Elric
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It took a long time for him to summon them in a pain battle. :| So we can assume it may take a couple minutes to summon them. Gama wouldn't be able to hold him for long seeing as he could go head to head with the eight tails and the only thing that harmed him was himself... Ma and PA said themselves the genjutsu takes time to prepare because it has to be in perfect sync. Like I said it's time j-man doesn't have..
lanakau888
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If jiraiya doesn't start out in sage, he loses, unless the three boss toads can hold off the third raikage long enough for him to summon ma and pa, which I highly highly doubt.
If jiraiya starts in sage, then its a good fight, but I don't think the genjutsu would work on the third since his chakras are constantly active with the lightning. honestly, as much as I hate to say this, unless jiraiya does what naruto did, he doesn't have anything powerful enough to hurt the third. Maybe, just maybe super oodama might be able to disable his lightning armor and ma + pa could follow up with a strong fuuton, but highly doubtful, and that still wouldn't put the raikage out of commission.
If jiraiya starts in sage, then its a good fight, but I don't think the genjutsu would work on the third since his chakras are constantly active with the lightning. honestly, as much as I hate to say this, unless jiraiya does what naruto did, he doesn't have anything powerful enough to hurt the third. Maybe, just maybe super oodama might be able to disable his lightning armor and ma + pa could follow up with a strong fuuton, but highly doubtful, and that still wouldn't put the raikage out of commission.
MinatoFLASH
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As I said before, gama and the other toads can stall time! Listen J-man is amazing he has sooo much jutsu, if 3rd recklessly comes at him he can use jizo needle and he also has Gamabunta and saying 3rd beat Hachibi so? I mean Gami can still stall time becuz he did it against the KYUUBI which is WAY more powerful! So anyways I still think Gami and the others along with J-man's jutsu and smarts wud def by enough time for SM and that genjutsu does not take that much time. 3rd Raikage wud lose at the end.
Alphonse Elric
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Honestly guys there is no winner to this battle. Because J-man would most likely use the toad belly as we have seen and the 3rd Raikage looks pretty dumb so when he is getting absorbed by toad then he can use that 2 finger blast and that would not only be the end of J-man but it would also kill him lol.
MinatoFLASH
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Me one sided? No but stalling time can def be done, becuz Gamabunta held off Kyuubi so y can't him and 3 other large toads hold off 3rd Raikage, or heck J-man may even summon an army of toads. Once in SM he can spam really powerful jutsu while ma and pa do the genjutsu.
kotoamatsukami
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3 parts to this fight...part1 3rd raikage swings...part2 jiraiya hits the floor...part3 fight over
MinatoFLASH
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Nah
Part 1: J-man laughs at his face really hard and cannot stop laughing because of his hideous face!!
Part 2: He stops messing around and talking trash about his face and summons Gamabunta!
Part 3: Gamabunta eats him and then throws up horribly!
Kakashi Fang
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I could see the fight going either way so i voted for all the options lol.
Jiraiya will be blitzed at the beginning of the fight and he will get pounded to death in one scenario.
Jiraiya happens to luckily get into sage mode and fights on par with the Raikage in another scenario.
Im leaning more towards the Raikage in this thread because of his supreme durability. I mean he fought for ten days straight no other ninja has that much chakra,not kisame or naruto IMO.....He is the true tailed beast without a tail.
If Jiraiya summons the toads i can see Raikage overwhelming them fairly easily.
Jiraiya will be blitzed at the beginning of the fight and he will get pounded to death in one scenario.
Jiraiya happens to luckily get into sage mode and fights on par with the Raikage in another scenario.
Im leaning more towards the Raikage in this thread because of his supreme durability. I mean he fought for ten days straight no other ninja has that much chakra,not kisame or naruto IMO.....He is the true tailed beast without a tail.
If Jiraiya summons the toads i can see Raikage overwhelming them fairly easily.
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Are we talking about the same gamabunta that got one shotted along with gameken and gamahiro by deva path's shinra tensei? Get real dawg, gamabunta and his fellow boss summons were taken out by one attack from deva path, and an incomplete kyubi was tossing deva path around and even resisted shinra tensei, the same shinra tensei that broke all of bunta's bones in one shot, and you actually have the gull to say that bunta can hold off the full kyubi? What nonsense!
And bunta was not the one that sheld down the kyubi for minato to seal, get your facts straight, Kushina was holding down the kyubi with her chakra chains while Minato prepared the sealing, Kushina set up a barrier so that no one would interfere with the sealing and then used chakra xhains to hold down the kyubi, bunta wasn't even there.
The only time Minato used Bunta was when Minato used the food cart destroyer technique to destract the kyubi and then he used ST jutsu to transport the kyubi's bijuu dama and then the kyubi to a new location, Bunta never "held off" the kyubi, you must have gone senile.
And you're crazy if you think Jiraiya's sage mode is on par with the raikage's raiton armour, that's if you're talking about the same sage mode jiraiya whose punch was efortessly stopped by animal path with one hand without even looking at him, you think human could stop a punch from theraikage? The same sage jiraiya that had his arm ripped of by asura path and then had his throat crushed by asura path, the same asura that was one shotted by choji's dad, really, you think sage mode Jiraiya's strength and durability can compare to the man who has never been injured accept by his own technique, tanked a bijuu dama and Futton Rasenshuriken? This guy who's body was pierced by even those chakra disruption rods through the shoulder by a half dead animal path, get real, sage mode jiraiya's speed,strength, and durability are no whwere near that of the raikage, fanboyism is clouding your judgement.
And gamabunta will get one shotted by hell stab, in fact that won't even need to be neccessary, the raikage can just go straight for Jiraiya and ignore gambunta, Deva, who is slower then the raikage avoided all three boss summons including bunta to get to naruto when he was trying to summon back his shadow clone, and that was before deva had his powers back, if deva can just avoid three summons and reach his target with pure taijutsu, then what do you think the raikage can do? Bunta won't make a difference here,raikage can easily go around him or one shot him with hell stab or super taijutsu.
Swamp of the under world is useless, its an earth technique, he can't sink the raikage, who can just funnel raiton chakra into the ground and stop it, raiton trumps earth, just look at how sasuke diffused deidara's bombs. And no ninjutus or tai can hurt him.
Frog song? Please! What on earth mader you think the third or his son can be affected by genjutsu? Genjutsu affects the mind, the mind is part of the nervous system the functions through neural synapses or impulses. That is why it is useless against someone with the raiton armour, the raiton armour amplifies speed and reflexes to the maximum by altering the neural impulses with insane raiton chakra frequencies, in other words, the raikage's nervous system is constantly stimulated by raiton frequencies that alter and disrupt neural impulses, a genjutsu will automatically be dispelled even before it takes effect, frog song won't work.
Sasuke used genjutsu against everyone of his opponents in shipuuden except for the fourth raikage, why do you think that was the case? He used it against deidara, Bee, C, and even danzo, and Itachi, who had sharingans but didn't use it against the raikage? Why, because he knew it wouldn't work! The raikage even said. So himself right after sasuke captured C in tsukiyomi, he said that a mere sharingan wouldn't work against the raikage while staring directly into sasuke's eyes, after his body guard was defeated by a genjutsu.
Also sasuke is a raiton user himself with the perception of the sharingan, he obviously knew this fact well too, that's why he was relying on. Ms ninjutsu and not genjutsu against A. All yaw Jiraiya fanboys raving about frog song aint got substance.
Jiraiya has nothing to take out this guy, whereas the raikage can take him out with four finger or one finger hell stab or just pull an asura path and rip his arm out or crush his throat, heck he can use black lightning or even use the sealing pot to seal him away.
And yaw crazy if you think Jiraiya can figure out the trick that naruto pulled. Naruto had plot no jutsu to help him out. He had bee tell him about the similarities between rasengan and bijuu dama when they were training. He had dodai and a whole iwa army squad buy him time to contact the eight tails and he had dodai to even give him the idea to contact the eight tails by telling him when the raikage got his scar and about his status as the strongest shield wielding the strongest sword. He also had the eight tails tell him that he used bijuu dama, which, combined with Bee's information about rasengan and bijuu dama similarities gave him the idea. How yaw fnboys can explain Jiraiya just randomly figuring out the raikage's only weakness without all this infois a mystery.
Fooloshness too when you believe that plan would even work against the raikage, Naruto's plan only worked because Kabuto was the one in control of the raikage's body, that plan would have never worked had the raikage been in control of himself, Injuring himself was his greatest shame and he was so paranoid about it that he didn't even tell his son about him, the guy was too paranoid to even allow someone near his arm, especially someone using a spiraling sphere, which is so similar to bijuu dama, he would see it coming and react to it, Kabuto just didn't know enough about the raikage's history to react to it. Besides, only the one finger hell stab can pierce his body, if he uses four finger, then it wouldn't kill him and he would still carry on fighting.
Third raikage will win low or no difficulty.
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Jiraiya is a Legendary Sannin, Toad Sage, Perverted Hermit and super awesome.
He is up against the 3rd Raikage, epicly powerful, fought of the Hachibi and thousands of shinobi.
Jiraiya would barely win this, if he starts of in SM, but if he starts of in normal he would lose if he does not somehow figure out a way to enter SM
He is up against the 3rd Raikage, epicly powerful, fought of the Hachibi and thousands of shinobi.
Jiraiya would barely win this, if he starts of in SM, but if he starts of in normal he would lose if he does not somehow figure out a way to enter SM