3rd Raikage vs. Itachi?

Who would win?

  • 3rd Raikage

    Votes: 22 40.0%
  • Itachi Uchiha

    Votes: 32 58.2%
  • Tie

    Votes: 1 1.8%

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Strawberry

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That was A not his dad.. And Madara> Itachi anyway.
So no, third Raikage can't lose to Itachi like that.

madaras genjutsu ahsnt been shown so cant guess this, itachi catches him in a genjutsu and its done. third would ahve to bet on speed and out run totsuka get around yata break susanoo and hit itachi, without him reacting. even that izanami/ izanagi.. could mess things up

itachi low - mid diff
 

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could go either way

good luck using amaterasu when itachi would have been killed were it not for nagato and edo tensei immortality

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I am fairly undecided, though I voted Itachi.

In my opinion, Raiton shroud should break genjutsu, since it relies on electric impulses between the neuron synapses. I am also fairly sure that if the Third Raikage can tank a Bijuudama and an FRS he can also tank Amaterasu.

Amaterasu burns anything, but does it burn through his skin? Nobody can tell. The Raiton Shroud is also pretty tricky to burn through, I'd say.

I think it goes down to whether 3rd Raikage can dodge Totsuka.

I'd say Itachi wins 6 out of 10 times.
 

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I am fairly undecided, though I voted Itachi.

In my opinion, Raiton shroud should break genjutsu, since it relies on electric impulses between the neuron synapses. I am also fairly sure that if the Third Raikage can tank a Bijuudama and an FRS he can also tank Amaterasu.

Amaterasu burns anything, but does it burn through his skin? Nobody can tell. The Raiton Shroud is also pretty tricky to burn through, I'd say.

I think it goes down to whether 3rd Raikage can dodge Totsuka.

I'd say Itachi wins 6 out of 10 times.

In that case you must tell my why Madara's Sharingan Genjutsu affected the fourth Raikage while he was using his Raiton "shroud".

How is this even debatable guys, isn't it clear as day that Itachi is stronger? Sandaime is affected by any of Itachi's Genjutsu, and a single eye contact sufficient to end the battle. Where was is stated that the Sandaime tanked a Bijudama? Naruto assumed that the scar on the Sandaime's chest was caused by a Bijudama but later realized that it wasn't. Hachibi also tanked his own Bijudama, but when Amaterasu was used on him he was writhing of pain. The Raiton armor isn't a protection either, otherwise the Yondaime didn't have to cut his arm off. The Sandaime even pales in comparison with Susanoo's incomplete forms. The skeleton form has proven to be able to cut through Kimimaro's harder than steel bones and turn human bodies to nothing with one hand, as proven when Danzo was smashed by it. Not only it is by far stronger, the speed and range because the size exceed the Sandaime's. For while the movements of the Sandaime were well predicted, it is almost impossible to dodge Susanoo's attacks.

Given the scenario of Madara fighting the Gokage, Itachi could just catch him with Susanoo, paralyze with a Genjutsu, but instead of dropping him, he will smash him like Sasuke did it back than with Danzo by holding him in Susanoo' hand.
 

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In that case you must tell my why Madara's Sharingan Genjutsu affected the fourth Raikage while he was using his Raiton "shroud".

If you see the manga scan you will notice Ay's hair wasn't up, so I am unsure if he had the shroud on.

The Raiton armor isn't a protection either, otherwise the Yondaime didn't have to cut his arm off.

Why was he not writhing in pain like Bee, then? He cut it off casually like he didn't even feel it.

Itachi could just catch him with Susanoo, paralyze with a Genjutsu, but instead of dropping him

What stops Raikage from using Nukite against Susanoo's hand? It's hyped to be '' the supreme spear ''. If Danzo's Rank B Fuuton cut through a stage 3 Susanoo I can see the supreme spear cutting through the bone phase.
 

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You are one dude, 3rd Raikage is fast s hell and even blitzed kcm Naruto and he needed to be saved.
When did he blitz KCM Naruto? Show me the scan.
Madara Cught A because Ay looked at Tsunade thinking she ws in terrible other wise Madara could'nt even catch Ay. 3rd Raikage is stronger than his son and Just as fast.
The 3rd is around V1 speed at best you're overrating his speed feats when all his feats are aimed at his strength and endurance.
We don't know his intelligence because he was fully mind controlled but I'm sure he isn't dumb
Who is he fighting in this thread? He isn't dumb but he isn't smarter than Itachi.
Also he has black lightning he can use. Hell stab would rib through Susanoo, speed dodges Ama, and eye contract as seen by Ay vs Sasuke.
He needs eye contact in order to aim at Itachi.Even if he can dodge ama how can he hit Itachi? Itachi can block or completely dodge Black lightning since its obviously not as fast as real lightning.Using Sasuke as an example for Itachi is a bad move mainly due to the gap between him and his brother in terms of Genjutsu.
He has the stamina to fight 3 days straight, Itachi? 10 minutes max.
Battle ends in less than your so called '10 mins' restraint Itachi suddenly has.The 3rd has no way of breaking out of a simple 3 tomoe genjutsu.
 

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If you see the manga scan you will notice Ay's hair wasn't up, so I am unsure if he had the shroud on.



Why was he not writhing in pain like Bee, then? He cut it off casually like he didn't even feel it.



What stops Raikage from using Nukite against Susanoo's hand? It's hyped to be '' the supreme spear ''. If Danzo's Rank B Fuuton cut through a stage 3 Susanoo I can see the supreme spear cutting through the bone phase.

i'd just like to state that itachi has yata mirror so it's not only susano'o his hell stab has to go through.
 

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i'd just like to state that itachi has yata mirror so it's not only susano'o his hell stab has to go through.

I am not saying Nukite goes through Yata. It does not.

However, it can cut through Susanoo's bone hand, I'd say. Yata Mirror is only usable in Susanoo's complete form.
 

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I am not saying Nukite goes through Yata. It does not.

However, it can cut through Susanoo's bone hand, I'd say. Yata Mirror is only usable in Susanoo's complete form.

yes, i understand it would rip through a normal susano'o but it just seemed like you were forgetting/overlooking yata. Just wanted to remind you of it.
 

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If you see the manga scan you will notice Ay's hair wasn't up, so I am unsure if he had the shroud on.
What has the hair to do with it? A's hair is up in the case he increases his speed by using Shunshin, a feat the Sandaime however doesn't have. But in fact, he was brought down with a Genjutsu though he used his Raiton armor. He has absolutely no counter against being left K.O. with mere eye contact.

Why was he not writhing in pain like Bee, then? He cut it off casually like he didn't even feel it.
It was a small area which was affected by Amaterasu. While the most part of Amaterasu burned the steel ring of his arm, only his hand was affected by the flames. Itachi however can cast Amaterasu at his whole body.

What stops Raikage from using Nukite against Susanoo's hand? It's hyped to be '' the supreme spear ''. If Danzo's Rank B Fuuton cut through a stage 3 Susanoo I can see the supreme spear cutting through the bone phase.
This is however hype, while Susanoo indeed proved to crush material that is harder than steel. Susanoo also demonstrated to smash a metre thick wall easily, and if the Sandaime decides to go near Susanoo, later will just smash him with formidable speed [ ] or will catch him [ ] in order to turn him to nothing [ ]. As for Danzo's Fuuton, it shouldn't be forgotten that his power was increased to its maximum by Baku's suction, creating a blade of oversized dimensions and power. You should maybe take a look at the size of Susanoo's final form, to think about whether the Sandaime would really be able to penetrate it to reach Itachi in the middle of it.

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Not to forget that it wields the Yata mirror, that is defined over the ability to nullify any attack.
 

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What has the hair to do with it?

Ay's hair goes up when he uses Raiton Shroud.

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Ay's hair goes up when he uses Raiton Shroud.
Let me correct you.





His hair isn't up though he indeed uses the Raiton shroud.
His hair only goes up, if he increases his speed with Shunshin no Jutsu additionally:



Here you see the transition where his hairs go up. The Raiton shroud was used whole the time and so it was demonstrated that Genjutsu affect him.
 

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Itachi. Yata mirror blocks 3rd Raikage attacks, genjutsu would definitely drop him or Itachi could just kill him with Amaterasu.
 

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That was A not his dad.. And Madara> Itachi anyway.
So no, third Raikage can't lose to Itachi like that.

It was said that Itachi's Tsukuyomi was the best there was, just because Madara is stronger then Itachi, doesn't mean his Tsuku (Which is Itachi's strong point) is stronger then Itachi's...

3rd didin't show much speed feats, but is no slowpoke, so Itachi can't Amaterasu him. I'm think a Totsuka or Tsukuyomi would end it though, Itachi mid diff
 

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Sage Naruto easily outmoved the 3rd Raikge. Itachi kept up with a perfect Sage.

Itachi's faster. He also has Tsukuyomi, which the databook explicitly states would defeat someone like the 3rd Raikage.

He's also several tiers higher in terms of intellect, and the 3rd Raikge has no knowledge of his jutsu.

I'm surprised anybody think the 3rd wins.
 

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for those who put raikage you need to think,were talkin about itachi uchiha the only ninja who passed first acedemy at the age of 5 had third sharigan at the age of 8 passed the chuin exams at the age of 10 and was an anbu leader keyword LEADER at the age of 12 ,yes a 12 year old was telling kakkashi wat to do....he's a pure genieus and with the totsuka blade on his side he's physically invincible and with the intelligence he has he's mentally invincible too. all the raikage has is speed but that wont matter if itachi activates tuskymiomi
 

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for those who put raikage you need to think,were talkin about itachi uchiha the only ninja who passed first acedemy at the age of 5 had third sharigan at the age of 8 passed the chuin exams at the age of 10 and was an anbu leader keyword LEADER at the age of 12 ,yes a 12 year old was telling kakkashi wat to do....he's a pure genieus and with the totsuka blade on his side he's physically invincible and with the intelligence he has he's mentally invincible too. all the raikage has is speed but that wont matter if itachi activates tuskymiomi

Actually Kakashi was the one who graduated the academy at the age of 5. Itachi didn't graduate till he was 7. But of cause it is true that Itachi was a natrual genius and one of the most powerful ninjas in the series. Still, he was only 20 years old when he died and was very ill in his last years. He never reached the full potential of his talent, unlike the 3rd raikage who was much older and therefore also had much more experience (Not saying his smarter, just that he had more experience). That being said the fight could definetly go either way in my opinion. It's hard to say really.
 

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Sage Naruto easily outmoved the 3rd Raikge. Itachi kept up with a perfect Sage.

Itachi's faster. He also has Tsukuyomi, which the databook explicitly states would defeat someone like the 3rd Raikage.

He's also several tiers higher in terms of intellect, and the 3rd Raikge has no knowledge of his jutsu.

I'm surprised anybody think the 3rd wins.

You fail so hard when talking about itachi every single time!!! DO you even read the manga??? If you do not know something, easily go back and reread it to get your facts straight!

SM Naruto simply used his reflex at the last second to MAKE THE RAIKAGE HIT HIM SELF! He had to use a sage Rasengan aswell because it was teh only move with enough force to push his arm! Fact!

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Naruto was not faster nor could he keep up with him in sage mode! Fact! Itachi doesnt have no where close the reflex naruto and kabuto has while in sage mode!

Then you said itachi kept up with DSM KABUTO????????????????/

KABUTO RAPED AND PLAYED WITH HIM THE ENTIRE FIGHT! Itachi was no where in kabutos league! Plus that fight had nothing to do with speed! DSM Kabuto isnt a fast ninja, where did you get that from???????????????

Then you said the Databook said tsukuyomi would defeat a ninja like the 3rd raikage???????? The data book never said anything close to that! Stop makinbg BS up! You dont even read the data book! You know nothing about itachi and his limits! You are the definition of a RET**D itachi Fangirl!

Itachi faster him????????? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How do you know itachi is smarter then him???????? Have you seen the raikage from baby till the time he died????


The 3rd raikage has war expierience! And knowledge on every village! Uchihas and their moves are no secret to teh entire world! Uchihas are mainly EYe based clan! Its that simple! Damn your..... I wish i could say what i want to say!!!
 

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for those who put raikage you need to think,were talkin about itachi uchiha the only ninja who passed first acedemy at the age of 5 had third sharigan at the age of 8 passed the chuin exams at the age of 10 and was an anbu leader keyword LEADER at the age of 12 ,yes a 12 year old was telling kakkashi wat to do....he's a pure genieus and with the totsuka blade on his side he's physically invincible and with the intelligence he has he's mentally invincible too. all the raikage has is speed but that wont matter if itachi activates tuskymiomi

Raikage is a kage>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anything itachi has ever done in life! Kage=king/president!!!

Raikage took on an entire army of 10000 ninjas for 3 days straight!>>>>>>>>>>>>any itachi hupe or accomplishment!

Raikage only ninja ever to solo a bijuu hand to hand>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any ninja/hype itachi has ever fought!

Itachi fangirls like yourself no nothing about the manga and other characters! For one you would know he was head of anbu at 13 not 12 D**BA*S

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Where do you see 12 at??????????????????????/ READ TEH MANGA!!!!!! DONT USE THE INFO OTHER RET**DED UCHIHA GIRLS USE!
 
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