3rd Raikage V.S 4th Hokage

[Blaze Release]

lol why not ?
look at it.. the 3rd died from 8 tails
the 4th died from 9 tails?
whos better 9 tails soo i think Minato can handle him... easy..

Seriously???. Unlike minato, the 3rd actually fought his tailed beast, cut all its tails off and its his own tech that wounded him. And that ended in a draw.

Minato died sealing the 9 tailed. Minato knew better than to try and fight the 9 tailed. Rasengan?, dont be silly :flaw:

 

[Alphaqindyas]

Raikage easy.

 

[Diottcas]

Raikage basically killed himself facing the 8tails but with the scan with we saw they were both on the ground exhausted so that means Raikage equal 8tails. Minato had to seal the 9 tails. And I don't think anything can hurt the 9tails or exhaust him that much. I don't think a kunai will hurt Raikage or rasengan so Raikage mid difficulty.

Ya i want to see a flashback of the 3rd vs the 8 tails tht would be awesome

 

[iSpeak]

Minato's kunai stab has enough strength to cut through the eight tails tentacle, the same feat that the eight tails attributed to the Raikage's one-finger hellstab. And we all know that the hellstab can pierce the raikage.And naruto's regular rasengan still slightly damaged the raikage's arm as seen by cracks on his arm where the rasengan made contact. Minato's rasengan > naruto's rasengan so his rasengan's may not do major damage, but they do damage the raikage none the less.

Minato cut through 1 tentacle, 3rd cut through all of them at once. Plus, this doesn't prove Hellstab=Minato's kunai, it just proves they are both able to cut through the tentacle. Plus I doubt the tentacles are as durabe as 3rd's shield.

 

[Kenpai]

Minato's kunai stab has enough strength to cut through the eight tails tentacle, the same feat that the eight tails attributed to the Raikage's one-finger hellstab. And we all know that the hellstab can pierce the raikage.

And naruto's regular rasengan still slightly damaged the raikage's arm as seen by cracks on his arm where the rasengan made contact. Minato's rasengan > naruto's rasengan so his rasengan's may not do major damage, but they do damage the raikage none the less.

Third Raikage HARMED himself. The 8tails did not do any physical damage (I.e no missing arm, leg, eye) to him. Why do you think he felt ashamed when the ninjas were trying to figure out how got that wound over his heart. He stabbed himself.

And you using the 4th raikage vs naruto. I think 3rd raikage was stronger than the 4th. 3rd raikage could have been faster too. Minato rasengan will be no where near as powerful as Naruto because based on the Manga he didn't have time to master it hence all naruto's types of rasengan.

 

[White Fang18]

Who knows man that's a hard one indeed, maybe the Yellow Flash, according to the Kages each next generation is better than the previous one, and Minato is (or was) the next generation U_U

 

[lanakau888]

Minato cut through 1 tentacle, 3rd cut through all of them at once.

What in the world made you come to this conclusion? Its not even implied that it cut through all of them at once.

Plus, this doesn't prove Hellstab=Minato's kunai, it just proves they are both able to cut through the tentacle. Plus I doubt the tentacles are as durabe as 3rd's shield.

While I do agree that tentacle is not as durable as the third's shield, it does say a lot about minato's kunai stab and physical striking stength, which should be strong enough to at least wound the raikage. Plus minato's rasengan > naruto's rasengan that damaged the raikage's arm, so minato can damage the raikage this way as well.

 

[lanakau888]

Third Raikage HARMED himself. The 8tails did not do any physical damage (I.e no missing arm, leg, eye) to him. Why do you think he felt ashamed when the ninjas were trying to figure out how got that wound over his heart. He stabbed himself.

And you using the 4th raikage vs naruto. I think 3rd raikage was stronger than the 4th. 3rd raikage could have been faster too. Minato rasengan will be no where near as powerful as Naruto because based on the Manga he didn't have time to master it hence all naruto's types of rasengan.

Naruto's rasengan damaged the THIRD raikage's arm. Minato's rasengan > Naruto's rasenagan, so he does have a way of at least damaging the third. The third is not faster than the fourth, the fourth has actually shown faster speeds than the third, saying the third is faster is pure speculation.

I'm not talking about naruto vs the fourth raikage, and yes I agree the third was miles stronger and more durable than the fourth.

 

[Kenpai]

While I do agree that tentacle is not as durable as the third's shield, it does say a lot about minato's kunai stab and physical striking stength, which should be strong enough to at least wound the raikage. Plus minato's rasengan > naruto's rasengan that damaged the raikage's arm, so minato can damage the raikage this way as well.[/QUOTE]

He only damage the Raikage arm because of the wound. Minato rasengan is weaker than Naruto's because Minato NEVER mastered Rasengan before he died. Naruto did or he is very close to it.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

You said FTG kunai's are placed and that means Minato wins but since you said no seals then what we have seen of both, I being one of the biggest fan of Minato, chose 3rd barely...
Reasons:
what we have seen till now, Minato has only Rasengan and taijutsu for offence whereas 3rd has very strong nin-taijutsu for offence..
Minato's FTG tags are everywhere so its almost impossible to catch Minato now whereas 3rd's sheild will protect him from any damage caused by Minato..
From these facts, 3rd wins barely...
As a fan, Minato is super genius, if Naruto can find his weakness even with the help of Hachibi, Minato alone can but IMO he won't be able to do like SM Naruto did but he can find another way, with this Minato wins barely...

No offence........

lol how does minato win just becuz he has ftg kunai placed lol thats funny the 3rd raikage would just run to the kunai an pick them up then game over.minato has no way of winning he loses.

 

[Blaze Release]

Naruto's rasengan damaged the THIRD raikage's arm. Minato's rasengan > Naruto's rasenagan, so he does have a way of at least damaging the third. The third is not faster than the fourth, the fourth has actually shown faster speeds than the third, saying the third is faster is pure speculation.

I'm not talking about naruto vs the fourth raikage, and yes I agree the third was miles stronger and more durable than the fourth.

You talk about speculation and yet say minato's rasengan is stronger. Btw if you are talking about the rasengan naruto used to direct the 3rd own tech against himself, then yes that damaged the third.

Otherwise not even rasengan shuriken did anything

 

[lanakau888]

While I do agree that tentacle is not as durable as the third's shield, it does say a lot about minato's kunai stab and physical striking stength, which should be strong enough to at least wound the raikage. Plus minato's rasengan > naruto's rasengan that damaged the raikage's arm, so minato can damage the raikage this way as well.

He only damage the Raikage arm because of the wound. Minato rasengan is weaker than Naruto's because Minato NEVER mastered Rasengan before he died. Naruto did or he is very close to it.[/QUOTE]
No go back to the manga. look at where the rasengan makes contact with the third's arm. There is cracks where the contact is made, and this is before the raikage stabs himself in the chest.

Minato did master the rasengan before he died. He didn't manage to combine it with an element. Minato's rasengan is visually much larger than naruto's standard one and the one that was used against the third raikage.

 

[Blaze Release]

No go back to the manga. look at where the rasengan makes contact with the third's arm. There is cracks where the contact is made, and this is before the raikage stabs himself in the chest.

Minato did master the rasengan before he died. He didn't manage to combine it with an element. Minato's rasengan is visually much larger than naruto's standard one and the one that was used against the third raikage.[/QUOTE]

FAIL. if you havent noticed none of edo ninjs have smooth bodies. They have cracks on their body and face

 

[iSpeak]

What in the world made you come to this conclusion? Its not even implied that it cut through all of them at once.



While I do agree that tentacle is not as durable as the third's shield, it does say a lot about minato's kunai stab and physical striking stength, which should be strong enough to at least wound the raikage. Plus minato's rasengan > naruto's rasengan that damaged the raikage's arm, so minato can damage the raikage this way as well.

The 8 tails say's it himself.

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and Naruto said the Rasenshuriken didn't even scratch the 3rd Raikage.
Im sure Naruto's Rasenshuriken > Minato's Rasengan

 

[lanakau888]

You talk about speculation and yet say minato's rasengan is stronger.

Its not speculation if the manga has shown time and time again that a bigger rasengan = a more powerful rasengan. Minato's rasengan was both much larger than the one naruto used against the third raikage, and the damage it did to the ground is much greater than the damage naruto's does. I would almost say that it was equal to naruto's oodama rasengan.

Btw if you are talking about the rasengan naruto used to direct the 3rd own tech against himself, then yes that damaged the third.

Otherwise not even rasengan shuriken did anything

Damage to edo tensei's are indicated by cracks, recovery smoke, and flying paper. The rasenshuriken did damage the third, but not enough to keep him down, hence the cracks all over his body and the regeneration smoke.

Naruto's rasengan damaged his arm hence the cracks at the area the rasengan contacted the arm.

There was no flying paper because that is indicative of heavy or deep damage.

 

[ftg liger bomb]

imo the 4th wins with moderate difficulty

 

[lanakau888]

The 8 tails say's it himself.

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and Naruto said the Rasenshuriken didn't even scratch the 3rd Raikage.
Im sure Naruto's Rasenshuriken > Minato's Rasengan

How would he have cut off all of the eight tails tails at once? Are you saying that with one swing of his hand, he cut off all 8 of the tails?

Rasenshuriken did damage the raikage hence regenerative smoke and cracks on the edo's body. It just didn't do heavy damage to him which is the only thing that puts edos down long enough to be sealed.

 

[Kenpai]

Idk I don't think Minato has anything in his arsenal that can damage nonetheless kill 3rd Raikage that we have seen. Even if he were to let Minato get the first hit like Kenpachi did to Ichigo. 3rd A will be way to fast to be caught in death seal. If we talking about a completly heathy A he wouldn't even have the scar over him.

I can't wait till the animation comes along EPICNESS!

 

[Blaze Release]

Its not speculation if the manga has shown time and time again that a bigger rasengan = a more powerful rasengan. Minato's rasengan was both much larger than the one naruto used against the third raikage, and the damage it did to the ground is much greater than the damage naruto's does. I would almost say that it was equal to naruto's oodama rasengan.


Damage to edo tensei's are indicated by cracks, recovery smoke, and flying paper. The rasenshuriken did damage the third, but not enough to keep him down, hence the cracks all over his body and the regeneration smoke.

Naruto's rasengan damaged his arm hence the cracks at the area the rasengan contacted the arm.


There was no flying paper because that is indicative of heavy or deep damage.

Only damage to edo tensei ninja's is when they begin to regenerate. Ill upload images to end this discussion.

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These three images should keep you quite. Edo ninjas have cracks all over their body and face. Only when they are damaged do they regenerate. 3rd raikage didnt regerate, therefore he wasnt affected. Those cracks ive already explained them to you


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Btw naruto's rasengan is stronger, he was in km mode when he used it

 

[iSpeak]

How would he have cut off all of the eight tails tails at once? Are you saying that with one swing of his hand, he cut off all 8 of the tails?

Rasenshuriken did damage the raikage hence regenerative smoke and cracks on the edo's body. It just didn't do heavy damage to him which is the only thing that puts edos down long enough to be sealed.

There are many way's in wich he could have cut all of the tentacle's at once. To know how we would need to see how the fight actually happened, but the fact that the 8 tails said it himself should be enough proof, seeing as he was one of the only 2 guys there.

If that is the case, it is going to take a hell lot of rasengans to do serious damage to the 3rd. Especially after they was is skin was being described.