3rd Raikage and Muu vs EMS Sasuke

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Team 1: 3rd Raikage and Muu (both alive)
Team 2: Middle War Arc EMS Sasuke (all feats he has until point)

Location: Gokage vs Madara
Intel: Full
Distance: 80 meters
Restrictions: PS
 

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EMS Sasuke has the same Choku tomoe eyes that EMS Madara possesses so I doubt invisibility can fool Sasuke. From a portrayal standpoint, an EMS user getting fooled by Mu's invisibility technique is unlikely.

With that being said, Sasuke's susanoo doesn't offer him protection from jinton or nukite. Even if Sasuke gets Mu with amaterasu, it is likely that 3rd Raikage can take Sasuke out. If Sasuke goes after the 3rd Raikage, 3rd can still fight so Sasuke will still have a hard time.

Sasuke doesn't have many mobility feats without Kyuubi chakra amping his susanoo. Without susanoo, he can beat either kage though.

Kage duo high difficulty.
 

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If Mu and Raikage get close to Susanoo to use Nukite, it'd swat them with the Enton Blade. While that isn't going to do much to the Raikage due to his durable body, Mu would pretty much die on contact. Then it's just Raikage and Sasuke. Sasuke can't tank Nukite, but if the Raikage becomes a flaming fireball, he won't be able to fight.

If they opt to use Jinton from afar, Sasuke intercepts by using Amaterasu or by firing a barrage of Enton Magatama.
 

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Third Raikage and Muu win this,

--Lightened raikage gains the speed of V2 Ay and evades everything that sasuke dishes out, whilst muu can do the same through his sensing and invisiblity. Legged susanoo is not having the same mobility that it had when it was amped by kyuubis chakra and senjutsu, nor is it going to be anywhere near as powerful so the raikage can dance around its attacks just fine

--raikage stalls sasuke, whiilst Muu fires offf a jinton from this starting distance to turn him to dust, or raikage can breach his susanoo with nukite and finish him off,
 

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Third Raikage and Muu win this,

--Lightened raikage gains the speed of V2 Ay and evades everything that sasuke dishes out, whilst muu can do the same through his sensing and invisiblity. Legged susanoo is not having the same mobility that it had when it was amped by kyuubis chakra and senjutsu, nor is it going to be anywhere near as powerful so the raikage can dance around its attacks just fine

--raikage stalls sasuke, whiilst Muu fires offf a jinton from this starting distance to turn him to dust, or raikage can breach his susanoo with nukite and finish him off,

I always forget that Muu can lighten people too. He starting to seem more hax in my book than I give him credit for. He use to be my favorite character (hence my username) but Kishi shitted on him like he did most others and didn't give him more panel time. Anyway, what do you think about the Sharingan being able to see Muu? Why do you think when Onoki weighed him down after Naruto attacked him, he didn't just lighten himself to escape?
 

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I always forget that Muu can lighten people too. He starting to seem more hax in my book than I give him credit for. He use to be my favorite character (hence my username) but Kishi shitted on him like he did most others and didn't give him more panel time. Anyway, what do you think about the Sharingan being able to see Muu? Why do you think when Onoki weighed him down after Naruto attacked him, he didn't just lighten himself to escape?

Read this thread of mine:

Mu didnt lighten himself to counter the effects of Onoki's weighted tech because that was 50% Mu whose lightening technique would be overpowered by Onoki's weight tech.
 

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Third Raikage and Muu win this,

--Lightened raikage gains the speed of V2 Ay and evades everything that sasuke dishes out, whilst muu can do the same through his sensing and invisiblity. Legged susanoo is not having the same mobility that it had when it was amped by kyuubis chakra and senjutsu, nor is it going to be anywhere near as powerful so the raikage can dance around its attacks just fine

--raikage stalls sasuke, whiilst Muu fires offf a jinton from this starting distance to turn him to dust, or raikage can breach his susanoo with nukite and finish him off,

Bold makes zero sense considering Mu and the Raiakge are nowhere near Juubito's level of speed, so he doesn't need something on the level of his Senjutsu Susanoo to tag them.

Stalls Sasuke? He can attack them both at once using Magatama, while the Raikage can dodge w/o any drawback, Mu has to stop charging Jinton, so that's never happening here.
 

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Kages aren't winning this.

Enton Susano'o Arrow snipes Muu whether he's in the air or not. The Raikage is only potent in close range (Black Lightning is effortlessly tanked by Skeleton Susano'o and above) using Nukite, and the moment he gets there, he's turned into a fireball via Enton Sword or a coated Enton Susano'o.
 

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Bold makes zero sense considering Mu and the Raiakge are nowhere near Juubito's level of speed, so he doesn't need something on the level of his Senjutsu Susanoo to tag them.

Stalls Sasuke? He can attack them both at once using Magatama, while the Raikage can dodge w/o any drawback, Mu has to stop charging Jinton, so that's never happening here.

Read the thread stipulations because this is Mid War Arc EMS Sasuke with feats up until that point where he began to track Juubito. That being said, the kages win this. Muu lightens Raikage and then he gains a level of speed capable of dodging Amaterasu. Now Sasuke has to face two opponents, both with attacks powerful enough to bust through his strongest Susanoo. If Sasuke attacks Raikage, Muu jintons from behind. If Sasuke focuses on taking out Muu, nukite tears through Susanoo from the back. Weighted tech to immobilize Susanoo leaves Sasuke vulnerable to a blitz from a lightened Raikage. Sasuke loses here.
 

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If Sasuke's maximum non-PS susanoo has similar specs to the one he used against juubito, I don't see muu or sandaime standing a chance. They aren't anywhere as fast as juubito so they're getting tagged, and neither are going to tank mountain-cutting sword slashes. Considering EMS Sasuke's skeletal hand was durable enough to stall black jinton I doubt muu's jinton is going to do anything significant before sasuke either slashes muu or moves out of the AoE of the tech, or hits him with amaterasu.

The only way I can see the kage duo standing a chance is if sasuke's susanoo is for some reason far less mobile and less offensively powerful than the one that fought juubito, and i'm talking several levels.
 

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If Sasuke's maximum non-PS susanoo has similar specs to the one he used against juubito, I don't see muu or sandaime standing a chance. They aren't anywhere as fast as juubito so they're getting tagged, and neither are going to tank mountain-cutting sword slashes. Considering EMS Sasuke's skeletal hand was durable enough to stall black jinton I doubt muu's jinton is going to do anything significant before sasuke either slashes muu or moves out of the AoE of the tech, or hits him with amaterasu.

The only way I can see the kage duo standing a chance is if sasuke's susanoo is for some reason far less mobile and less offensively powerful than the one that fought juubito, and i'm talking several levels.

Most people claim his Susanoo was 7x stronger because Yang Kurama boosted things by 3x but everyone later got Yin+Yang Kurama cloak so people assume that would multiply it by another 3 times which makes 6. Add Juugos power then it becomes 7. You're looking at a Susanoo 7 times weaker.
 

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Sasuke low difficulty.

Nukite isn't even piercing a v4 Susanoo. Jinton is a none factor here seeing as Amaterasu or Susanoo arrows renders Jinton useless. Amaterasu lights Mu up and then Sasuke clowns on the Raikage with a standing Susanoo wielding a Enton blade.

Third Raikage and Muu win this,

--Lightened raikage gains the speed of V2 Ay and evades everything that sasuke dishes out, whilst muu can do the same through his sensing and invisiblity. Legged susanoo is not having the same mobility that it had when it was amped by kyuubis chakra and senjutsu, nor is it going to be anywhere near as powerful so the raikage can dance around its attacks just fine

Even if he gains the speed of v2 Ei is he even dodging Amaterasu? If im correct Ei only dodged Amaterasu because he knew it was coming plus he used his shunsui which escaped Sasuke Los which he can't escape EMS Los seeing as he could see someone much faster than v2 Ei. So Amaterasu hits him. Why won't it have the mobility? Raikage isn't dancing around anything when Sasuke can easily track and counter his speed. Mu gets located by Aoda via temperature.

--raikage stalls sasuke, whiilst Muu fires offf a jinton from this starting distance to turn him to dust, or raikage can breach his susanoo with nukite and finish him off,
Raikage will dive into an Enton covered Susanoo basically commiting Suicide. Sasuke dodges him all day without much effort. Jinton isn't getting fire off when Sasuke can stay in standing Susanoo while Aoda locates Mu once Mu is located multiple Enton Arrows finish him off or Kirin etc...
 

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Read the thread stipulations because this is Mid War Arc EMS Sasuke with feats up until that point where he began to track Juubito.

My post covers that. Everything I said he'd do in my post is stuff he can do with his feats from chapter 650, minus Naruto's power, including tracking Juubito.


That being said, the kages win this. Muu lightens Raikage and then he gains a level of speed capable of dodging Amaterasu.
Yet Susanoo still wrecks him in CQC due to the Enton Blade combined with pre cog that let him track Juubito. Senjutsu Susanoo>>>Normal Legged Susanoo..but Juubito>>>>V2 Ay when it comes to speed.

Now Sasuke has to face two opponents, both with attacks powerful enough to bust through his strongest Susanoo. If Sasuke attacks Raikage, Muu jintons from behind.
If the Raikage attacks Sasuke, he retaliates and hits him with the Enton Blade, and then turns around to hit Mu with Amaterasu or a Magatama. Mu can't prep and fire Jinton in the time it takes Sasuke to land a hit on the Raikage, so this strategy isn't going to work.

If Sasuke focuses on taking out Muu, nukite tears through Susanoo from the back. Weighted tech to immobilize Susanoo leaves Sasuke vulnerable to a blitz from a lightened Raikage. Sasuke loses here.

That's why he doesn't need to focus on Mu. Mu is irrelevant until he becomes visible to use Jinton, and once he does Amaterasu hits him, and coating the Susanoo with Enton counters the bold, can't touch it unless he wants to catch on fire and die, not to mention there isn't conclusive proof that he can use it. Your assumptions were fair ones to make, doesn't mean that he knows the jutsu for sure.
 

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Hard to tell...
But im going to go with Sasuke for now...
 

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The 3rd Raikage is the most overrated man on the base his puny durability and nukite over-ration always make me laugh.
 

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My post covers that. Everything I said he'd do in my post is stuff he can do with his feats from chapter 650, minus Naruto's power, including tracking Juubito.

Being able to track lightened raikage =/= being able to land a hit on him, sasukes fastest attack is amaterasu which gets dodged, and if sasuke uses V4 susanoo he cant use amaterasu, just spam enton from his orb which travels slower than amaterasu iirc.

Yet Susanoo still wrecks him in CQC due to the Enton Blade combined with pre cog that let him track Juubito. Senjutsu Susanoo>>>Normal Legged Susanoo..but Juubito>>>>V2 Ay when it comes to speed.

Sasuke can't defend against both of them simultaneously.

If the Raikage attacks Sasuke, he retaliates and hits him with the Enton Blade, and then turns around to hit Mu with Amaterasu or a Magatama. Mu can't prep and fire Jinton in the time it takes Sasuke to land a hit on the Raikage, so this strategy isn't going to work.

Muu preps jinton from behind a where Amaterasu can't hit him because he's not in sasukes LoS. If Sasuke targets Mu with susanoo arrow, lightened raikage can attack him in the time it takes to string the arrow and fire it.

That's why he doesn't need to focus on Mu. Mu is irrelevant until he becomes visible to use Jinton, and once he does Amaterasu hits him, and coating the Susanoo with Enton counters the bold, can't touch it unless he wants to catch on fire and die, not to mention there isn't conclusive proof that he can use it. Your assumptions were fair ones to make, doesn't mean that he knows the jutsu for sure.

Amaterasu isnt hitting Mu from behind cover of a rock out of sasukes los. If Sasuke uses shunshin to move to where Mu is in his line of sight, he turns his back on raikage whose lightened speed is >>> sasukes and charges in with nukite and kills him. if sasuke switches to defend himself against raikage with enton blade, Muu obliterates him with large scale jinton.

theres pretty much overwhelming evidence here for muu using weighted rock tech. Its not 100% confirmed that 2nd mizukage can use hydrification, yet people give him that feat because he's part of the hozuki clan; though being in the hozuki clan doesnt grant you ability to liquify (like being in the uchiha clan doesnt mean you have sharingan), but since he is the mizukage (strongest in the village, in theory) and part of the hozuki clan, we can logically deduce he can use hydrification. I'd go as far as to say Muu can use this technique unless proven otherwise. Though the kages dont need it to beat sasuke.
 

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The 3rd Raikage is the most overrated man on the base his puny durability and nukite over-ration always make me laugh.

>puny durability
>this a dude literally as durable as V4 Susanoo

>nukite overrated
>pierced through his own body when FRS couldnt scratch him
 
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