Minato was better equipped jutsu wise. What is one of the only weaknesses to IWR? Sealing, and who is a master of sealing jutsu? Minato, there is my logic. And he is faster so the battle would have ended much quicker.
I know it is my opinion but looking at other people's abilities there just isn't anyone who can make a serious stand against him other than the strongest ever like the people I mentioned.
Jutsu wise? I don't really see that since minato only had a rasengan, his s/t jutsu, and a couple of kunais as weapons. Minato survived on his speed and intelligence alone.
Hypothetically speaking, those things wouldn't work on orochimaru.Orochimaru would tank everything minato had to offer,and as the genious he was(could have been the 4th hokage) he would have either found a pattern in minato's ftg movements, or he would simply get rid of minato's kunais by either blowing them away,or make the earth swallow them(depending on which element he has).Nobody in the naruto universe is invincible including minato, and his S/T justu is not the end all be all....Like itachi said every justu has its weakness,although, you would have to be a high level kage fighter to stand a chance(most kages, nagato, itachi, jiraiya, naruto, oro, sasuke, madara, and bee)
Yes, minato was said to be well-versed in fuinjutsu, but what would work other than the death demon seal? Sure, he can take break the control of the kyuubi, but we don't know if it would work on an edo-zombie.
Then again minato could wn because he was a genious as well but it is not an easy battle.
I am going with what we know about them and what we have seen. Hashirama was famous for mokuton which would be almost useless against someone with Minato's speed and ST jutsus. And Minato clearly did not have trouble with a "crippled Madara" since he did not even take a hit and trounced Madara in every way possible, even taking away the fox from him. And it is highly unlikely that Madara ever had his ST techniques when he fought Hashirama (if this even is Madara, which I doubt, and which would nullify your arguments anyway) because there is just no way to beat Madara's ST unless you have faster ST or you lay a trap and have intricate knowledge of his abilities. We haven't even seen his EMS which probable means he doesn't have it anymore and that these are different sharingan (again if that even is Madara and this person ever had EMS) so his ST wouldn't have been around back then..
we can safely assume that harishima can do pretty much all the things zetzu can e.g regeneration, taking people's powers, and the ability to travel long distances without people noticing. You factor that in with his elements, high level genjutsu, strong wood, and the fact he can to control all of the tailed beasts. Pretty strong if you ask me....
Almost everybody in the manga wants his golden dna,so the chances of us getting to know harishima's full potential, in the future, is pretty big.And just because you are known for one thing doesn't mean you are limited to that thing only(same goes for any shinobi).
Tobi says he's madara and until proven otherwise he is. Madara did have ems and he was said to be the strongest uchiha who has ever lived.Madara destroyed the hidden mist by taking control over their kage, who was a tailed beast as well. So, obviously he is/was very strong when it came/comes to genjutsu, and manipulation in general.
If I remember correctly minato called madara's space time tech more "advanced" than his. Minato died in that battle, and despite the fact madara barely escaped from the battle, he still said that harishima was the greatest opponent he had ever met.
How do you know Itachi couldn't defeat him? He never tried as far as I am aware. And this still is only applicable if it even is Madara, which I seriously doubt..
Isn’t it pretty obvious? Madara was a evil villain, who had the tools to destroy the one thing itachi's worked for his whole life (i.e sasuke restoring the uchiha pride).Madara would be the only one, who had any interest in telling sasuke about the uchiha massacre, and itachi did nothing but watch and give himself some more time to figure out a plan (and madara being immortal happily accepted). And after his death he did actually make an attempt on madara's life via sasuke's eyes..
I am that sure because Minato was much better equipped than Hiruzen for that battle. You can argue all you want but ST jutsu, speed, and most importantly sealing jutsu were the best jutsus for that battle.
You can never be sure unless the fight happens....
I am just going with what I see and understand of their abilities. Yes it said he was the strongest of the five kages in his prime but that was before Shippuden and honestly I don't see any way for Hiruzen to stand against some of the people in Part 2..
Why is that? Simply because we have seen these new people show incredible skill and talent, while we have yet to see what a prime hiruzen could do.We can only go on the words in the manga, and actually we should be more impressed with sarutobi, when we see guys like onoki and the third raikage showcase their talents.
Basic as in nothing that requires a KG, no KG obviously, no other summons than his, no Hidden jutsu of clans, nothing that he wouldn't have known about like rasengan, no forbidden jutsu like IWR, nothing that required and element he didn't know, he didn't have ST jutsu, and learned Death Reaper seal from Minato. So yeah there was a lot he didn't know considering that Konoha is made up of almost only Hidden abilities of clans or KG or summons. Am I wrong in that assessment?.
First off, sarutobi could summon any monkey he liked, and he decided to just bring out the boss summon enma. Once you make a contract with an animal you can summon as many as you like, so I don’t see your point there. Sarutobi knew every forbidden (every hokage has access to them) and written down jutsu in konoha. A technique doesn’t need to be a KG to be considered an S-class jutsu, just look at rasenshuriken or kirin.The problem in that fight was that sarutobi was so old that he couldn’t even make clones, so he couldn’t use his most powerful techniques since they usually requires a lot of chakra,although he did mix fire and earth effortlessly (and stopped tobirama’s powerful water attack) .Nowhere in the manga does it say that his jutsu list was restricted, so until it changes the correct assumption would be that he knew every jutsu.
Minato and Tobirama had no KG either. And Hiruzen's reign of peace was only possible because he let really bad things happen on his watch. He let Oro escape, he let the Uchiha massacre happen, he let the Hidden cloud take Hizashi because he wanted to avert war, even though it was the cloud's fault. He was either a lazy Hokage or he was willing to sacrifice other people to maintain the peace during his reign..
Hiruzen was all about peace and implementing the will of fire, which he passed on to his village, hence him being very popular. He was always in negotiation with the opposing teams, and wanted to prevent war at all cost but if his hand was forced, he would act immediately e.g the uchiha massacre. They tried to overtake the village, and wouldn’t listen to reasoning, so they had to be taken down.It’s a leader’s job to make tough decisions, so I don’t see how you can call that lazy (if he was it would have resulted in war on multiple occasions).
This can all be backed up by quotes from people like Tsunade, Kakashi, and Asuma.
However, I will give you the oro incident, since that was weak, and enma called him on it. Orochimaro was his favorite student and he couldn’t fathom what he had become.
Well Jiraiya was only a decade younger when he fought Pain. And Jiraiya was extremely strong. Onoki is a lot older than Hiruzen was when he fought Oro and Onoki is still super strong. Ever since shippuden has come out Hiruza decade I a lot when you en has looked weaker and weaker.
Well a decade is a long time when you reach that age, and jiraiya has the advantage that he can go into sage mode which enables him to access natural energy i.e. infinitive chakra. Onoki has a kg, and we have already seen him in more occasions than the third hokage,so naturally he would have more “prime time “ to showcase some of his stuff, despite the fact that his hips goes out LOL, and neither of the aforementioned people fought two strong edo-zombies.It took itachi,naruto,and bee to just take down one single summon.
btw, a gaiden is def... needed and we only saw tobirama's sword in the anime.
