3rd Hokage is the strongest hokage?
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Shisui Namikaze
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I wanna know how hiruzen knew every tech in konoha and his elements were fire and earth. I understand ninja art techs but as far as water lighting and wind he ain't know it. So??? He didn't know every tech.
Actual it is flawed, when he was fighting the Raikage, the Raikage located everyone of the 4ths kunias and was ready to stike where ever he appeared but the 4th placed a seal on bee's tentacle and teleported there. The flaw is if the 4th doesn't put his seal on his opponent and only use his kunias then his opponent with speed like the Raikage and Naruto can have a counter ready and the 4th would be limited to only where is kunias are if he wants to use the FTG. If Shikamaru was faster/stronger then he can use his shadow to pickup the kunias and move them together or in a way to set up a trap while defending himself from attacks. Not saying shikamaru can beat Minato just that someone with stratigic skills can use the FTG flaw against him.
The 1st hokage was described as the strongest in his time by madara
The 2nd hokage was described as the strongest in his time by Danzo
The 3rd hokage was described as the strongest hokage konoha ever had by Icukra
The 4th hokage was told he deserved the title of kage by madara
I think the Third is the strongest
The 2nd hokage was described as the strongest in his time by Danzo
The 3rd hokage was described as the strongest hokage konoha ever had by Icukra
The 4th hokage was told he deserved the title of kage by madara
I think the Third is the strongest
Itachi Namikaze
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It's only flaw is that you have to be super fast in the first place to be able to use it well. Seriously what can be wrong with it? It is a supplemental technique, not an attack in itself. It doesn't use chakra, is instantaneous, can be used by touching people or marking objects and teleporting back to them.
I guess that is the real only weakness to FTG. He needs to either touch something or throw a kunai. But he does have ST jutsus that don't rely on seals. Like what he did with the 9tails TBB.
kobi sugoichi kempachi
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Hey, he was the best character to pick when he daybured in the fist ninja storm game. He was cold as hell. I use to kick all the candy asses with him.
Hes just been overshadowed by othe characters cus him and Orochimaru was the fist real fight aginst too Kages. But ppl also foreget that he was so old, dam near 100 give or take xd. He was that type of Kage that wanted retire early, and he did but certian circumstances led him to become hokage agian.To top it all off, He had to fight his former student, who he wanted to save Oro from himself and let him go when he left the village, wich he could never kill.Hurizen was said to have huge chakra that depenished as he got older.
Hes just been overshadowed by othe characters cus him and Orochimaru was the fist real fight aginst too Kages. But ppl also foreget that he was so old, dam near 100 give or take xd. He was that type of Kage that wanted retire early, and he did but certian circumstances led him to become hokage agian.To top it all off, He had to fight his former student, who he wanted to save Oro from himself and let him go when he left the village, wich he could never kill.Hurizen was said to have huge chakra that depenished as he got older.
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FallingLeaf
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ya if it was the real 1 n 2 hokages and they wanted to fight the 3rd would not stand a chance i mean second did not you any space time tech and the 1st only did forest of trees right?
hiruzen is strong tho yes but i think minato could have taken him tho
Ame no kage
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this may be a biased answer, but the 1st imho was the strongest hokage, he is after all a senju member, the clan with a thousand skills, and master of taijutsu, ninjutsu and genjutsu...FTG falls under space and time ninjutsu or just ninjutsu category, im sure his vast knowledge of jutsu's, he can easily counter FTG,
and since madara uses space time ninjutsu, im guessing hashirama would of had some counter for that particular jutsu.
and since madara uses space time ninjutsu, im guessing hashirama would of had some counter for that particular jutsu.
DigitalMonster
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Hashirama and Tobirama's hype has been buried to dead for 250+ chapters ago,ever since databook stated their inferiority to Hiruzen.
kobi sugoichi kempachi
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Speed if the strength, the weakness is that in order to use it, it must have a destination to teleport to.But the weakness is grasticly decreased cus Minato throse out bout 40 of them in the begining of his fight wich gives him more destination. You are right about it being a supplemental technique. It falls under a Justu that is a combo-base attacks, wich means that it is effective with other Justu like resingan(forgot what its called). I was reading the different jutsu and found it, but now I cant remember the name.
blacklildudexst
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We've seen the 1st hokage and 2nd hokage fight sarutobi and we've seen hokage Minato fight Madara and the kyuubi. Get your facts straight, because we've seen all 3 of them fight. The only one we haven't seen fight is Sarutobi in his prime.
It is also said that Minato was the greatest ninja Konoha ever produced. Do you guys realize how many time kishi has contradicted himself in this manga? Like i said before Hashirama and Minato have gotten praised by the likes of Madara, the 4th raikage, jiraiya, and (plenty of other shinobi that i don't feel like naming lol) and they have a lot more credibility than Iruka.he wasnt even in the story for that long and by that time he was already 72 years old. he was able to permanetly scar a SANNIN. he had stated himself that his chakra reserves had greatly deplenished since his youth.in a flashback he could have killed orochimaru with ease because of his experimentations on other leaf ninja but chose to let him live. i doubt minato would have even posed a threat that age. his trump card is speed and by that time it would've greatly decreased. in narutopedia it stated that hiruzen was a MASTER of genjutsu, ninjutsu, and taijutsu.
Quote from narutopedia,"Hiruzen Sarutobi, the Third Hokage, was said to be the strongest Hokage in the village's history, as well as strongest of the Five Kage of his era." HAHA
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MinatoFLASH
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LOL i have to admit that was good. But read the bold part carefully. It never says he was, in the beginning of the whole damn show guess who was the first person we saw, it was basically Minato, he was the first we were introduced to. Naruto the main character himself said that the 4th was the greatest of them all and Iruka agreed. Plus he was praised by A, J-man, Madara, kakashi, etc. Not to mention if u think logically we havent ever seen the 3rd do anything that can counter the FTG, nuff said.he wasnt even in the story for that long and by that time he was already 72 years old. he was able to permanetly scar a SANNIN. he had stated himself that his chakra reserves had greatly deplenished since his youth.in a flashback he could have killed orochimaru with ease because of his experimentations on other leaf ninja but chose to let him live. i doubt minato would have even posed a threat that age. his trump card is speed and by that time it would've greatly decreased. in narutopedia it stated that hiruzen was a MASTER of genjutsu, ninjutsu, and taijutsu.
Quote from narutopedia,"Hiruzen Sarutobi, the Third Hokage, was said to be the strongest Hokage in the village's history, as well as strongest of the Five Kage of his era." HAHA
C Namikaze14
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Agreed. Sarutobi said it himself that Minato is the strongest shinobi Konoha had ever produced. He also said that Minato is the strongest Hokage.
The only reason it showed Hiruzen being able to defeat Hashirama and Tobirama was because of the plot outline. It was meant for Orochimaru to kill Hiruzen by the end of that fight. Summoning the 1st and 2nd Hokages wasn't suppose to kill Hiruzen. It was much more of a psychological taunt than anything.
And I agree with whoever says the 1st and 2nd weren't fighting at 100%. There were many things they left out.
And I agree with whoever says the 1st and 2nd weren't fighting at 100%. There were many things they left out.
I have said it before i am saying it again....
it goes this way...
Minato>Hiruzen>Tobirama>Hashirama.
and Tsunade cannot be included because she is a complete genius in a different field and that is the medical field.
it goes this way...
Minato>Hiruzen>Tobirama>Hashirama.
and Tsunade cannot be included because she is a complete genius in a different field and that is the medical field.