3D2Y (Sword training with KeotsuEclipse)

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~Just a note: I'm not a sensei, I'm simply helping because he asked. Think of it like I'm just giving him some friendly advice.~

*Walks up nonchalantly with a few katana and bokken with me.*

Alright, I want to get a gauge of what you can do. Come at me with all you've got. You have three turns, and then we'll start, so do your best.
 

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yeah hes right im asking him a sword training o_O


alright, im really have no idea what to do in sword fight.. so..

im start sprint at you with my sword with 2 hands slashing you diagonal...... probably like my sig..
 

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yeah hes right im asking him a sword training o_O


alright, im really have no idea what to do in sword fight.. so..

im start sprint at you with my sword with 2 hands slashing you diagonal...... probably like my sig..
*I simply take my katana and hold it with two hands and swing it in the direction that would put my sword perpendicular to your own, blocking you slash.*

Hm, maybe we should just go on right ahead to the training. Want to?
 

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Alright...now...where to begin...

Let's start with the basic. (You'll have to forgive me, they'll be some RPing in this.)

Why do you want to learn to use a sword?
first, if you can see my sig... i want to make a bio of it.... but before that i want to be worthy to handle that sword....

second, i read your sword fighting it was so Epic.... o_O
 

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first, if you can see my sig... i want to make a bio of it.... but before that i want to be worthy to handle that sword....

second, i read your sword fighting it was so Epic.... o_O
Hm.

Well, I just want to make a point to you before we begin: In case it ever starts to come across as if the sword is not your weapon, remember there are many instruments of war and maybe another might suit you better, such as the kusarigama (a chain scythe) or maybe something like a spear.

Let us start with the most basic of movements: the one handed horizontal strike.

*Hands you a bokken.*

Now, repeat my movement one-hundred times, and visualize your movement.

*Holding a katana in my right hand, I cross my arm across my body so that my right wrist is in the air near my left shoulder. I swing my arm and unfold my elbow during the motion, making a horizontal strike.*
 
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Hm.

Well, I just want to make a point to you before we begin: In case it ever starts to come across as if the sword is not your weapon, remember there are many instruments of war and maybe another might suit you better, such as the kusarigama (a chain scythe) or maybe something like a spear.

Let us start with the most basic of movements: the one handed horizontal strike.

*Hands you a bokken.*

Now, repeat my movement one-hundred times, and visualize your movement.

*Holding a katana in my right hand, I cross my arm across my body so that my right wrist is in the air near my left shoulder. I swing my arm and unfold my elbow during the motion, making a horizontal strike.*
will im glad if i learn all the weapon like kusarigama, tonfa, etc...
*receive the Bokken oh this is a nice bokken*

ok i will follow your movements and visualize it..
*holding bokken in my right hand, and i across my arm in my body so that my wrist is in the near in my left shoulder.*
*i swing my arm and unfold my elbow during the motion. i make a horizontal strike*

and i will repeat id till till 100 times or until i will make a perfect movements...

Hows my move Keotsu sama?
 

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will im glad if i learn all the weapon like kusarigama, tonfa, etc...
*receive the Bokken oh this is a nice bokken*

ok i will follow your movements and visualize it..
*holding bokken in my right hand, and i across my arm in my body so that my wrist is in the near in my left shoulder.*
*i swing my arm and unfold my elbow during the motion. i make a horizontal strike*

and i will repeat id till till 100 times or until i will make a perfect movements...

Hows my move Keotsu sama?
Good. Now, I want you to do something slightly different. You're about to do a two-handed horizontal strike.

Striking with two hands gives your attacks much more attack power, making them much more difficult to block. The only draw back here is that if a person redirects your power (which we'll get to later) you're wide open.

Now, repeat after me, one-hundred times.

*I cross my right arm across my chest, in the same position as I used previously. This time, though, I place my left hand below my right hand on the hilt of my katana. I then swing the katana, again using the same motion of unfolding my arm and elbow, but this time I extend my left arm as well, adding additional power to the strike.*
 

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Good. Now, I want you to do something slightly different. You're about to do a two-handed horizontal strike.

Striking with two hands gives your attacks much more attack power, making them much more difficult to block. The only draw back here is that if a person redirects your power (which we'll get to later) you're wide open.

Now, repeat after me, one-hundred times.

*I cross my right arm across my chest, in the same position as I used previously. This time, though, I place my left hand below my right hand on the hilt of my katana. I then swing the katana, again using the same motion of unfolding my arm and elbow, but this time I extend my left arm as well, adding additional power to the strike.*
*as i hold my i cross my right arm in my chest (like you do ) and then i place my left hand below my right hand on the hilt of katana...*
* and then I swing the katana, again using the same motion of unfolding my arm and elbow, but this time I extend my left arm as well, adding additional power to the strike.*

and then i repeat this method hundred tims until i master it... o_O
 

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Yeah, sorry, it may seem like a bunch of pointless repetition and it may seem silly to go over the basic movements, but before you can do anything complex you must master the basics.

Now, I want you to do both single-handed and double-handed vertical strikes one-hundred times each.

*Placing my right hand on my katana's hilt just below the hand guard, I raise my arm so that the upper part of my arm is at an upward angle (about 45 degrees) and with my forearmed arched backwards, so that the katana in my hand is horizontal in the air over my right shoulder. I then bring my arm down while straightening it in the same motion - the act of extending my arm makes the sword extend and become flat in its arc as it comes down, dealing a vertical slash.

I then repeat the motion, but this time by placing both hands on the hilt, with my left arm cutting across my chest. Other than the use of both arms, the movement here is the same.*

After this, I want you to use a simply stab motion, as I show you.

*Taking my katana in my right hand, I raise my arm so that it is level with my shoulder and simply extend my arm straight forward (note that my wrist is turned so that the edge of the blade is facing outward), stabbing.*

The two handed motion is the same, but, again, with two hands.

Tomorrow I'll go into some more complex things - I'll tell you how to react to certain moves, when to block, counter, or parry, and when to know that trying to stop a move is not in your favor, and what you should do instead.

My goal here is to get you to master the basics - if you know how to do the basic stab, the basic slash, and understand how and why they work so well, you can make adjustments to make you formidable.

For example, one of my favorite combos is a diagonal down-slash into a a forward lunge (basically a jumping stab). If used with two-hands, it creates a high-power-and-speed attack that becomes difficult to block and parry, while if preformed with one hand gives great reaction time to any situation.

But, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it, so for now, do the above moves please. ^_^
 
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Single handed Vertical strikes..

- Placing my right hand on my katana's hilt just below the hand guard,
- I raise my arm so that the upper part of my arm is at an upward angle
- about 45 degrees and with my forearmed arched backwards,
- so that the katana in my hand is horizontal in the air over my right shoulder.
- I then bring my arm down while straightening it in the same motion
- the act of extending my arm makes the sword extend and become flat in its arc as it comes down, dealing a vertical slash.

i do this hundred times more until i familiarize it...

1,2,....
99,100,.....

next is the double handed vertical strikes...
 

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double-handed Vertical strikes..

- Placing my both hands on my katana's hilt just below the hand guard,
- I raise my arm so that the upper part of my arm is at an upward angle
- about 45 degrees and with my forearmed arched backwards,
- so that the katana in my hand is horizontal in the air over my right shoulder.
- I then bring my arm down while straightening it in the same motion
- the act of extending my arm makes the sword extend and become flat in its arc as it comes down, dealing a vertical slash.

i do this hundred times more until i familiarize it...

1,2,....
99,100,.....

o_O
 

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Single handed simple stab motion

- Taking my katana in my right hand,
- I raise my arm so that it is level with my shoulder
- and simply extend my arm straight forward
(note that my wrist is turned so that the edge of the blade is facing outward), stabbing.*

Double handed simple stab motion

- Taking my katana in my Both hand,
- I raise my arm so that it is level with my shoulder
- and simply extend my arm straight forward
(note that my wrist is turned so that the edge of the blade is facing outward), stabbing.*

Tomorrow I'll go into some more complex things - I'll tell you how to react to certain moves, when to block, counter, or parry, and when to know that trying to stop a move is not in your favor, and what you should do instead.

My goal here is to get you to master the basics - if you know how to do the basic stab, the basic slash, and understand how and why they work so well, you can make adjustments to make you formidable.

For example, one of my favorite combos is a diagonal down-slash into a a forward lunge (basically a jumping stab). If used with two-hands, it creates a high-power-and-speed attack that becomes difficult to block and parry, while if preformed with one hand gives great reaction time to any situation.

But, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it, so for now, do the above moves please. ^_^
Alrighty, sampai but for now im still familiarize it :p
 

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Single handed simple stab motion

- Taking my katana in my right hand,
- I raise my arm so that it is level with my shoulder
- and simply extend my arm straight forward
(note that my wrist is turned so that the edge of the blade is facing outward), stabbing.*

Double handed simple stab motion

- Taking my katana in my Both hand,
- I raise my arm so that it is level with my shoulder
- and simply extend my arm straight forward
(note that my wrist is turned so that the edge of the blade is facing outward), stabbing.*



Alrighty, sampai but for now im still familiarize it :p
Are you ready to move on to blocking?
 

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yeah i ready...
Alright, blocking is another basic skill of swordsmanship. While occasionally limited in follow up options, you'll often find that it may be your only option, or simply the safest.

As a general rule, when blocking you put your blade so that it runs perpendicular with your opponents - if your opponent attacks you with a horizontal slash, counter by holding your blade vertically; if the opponent strikes at you with a diagonal slash that would cross across your body from the right, hold your blade so that it points left. As long as your blade forms a general "X" or "+" shape with the opponents blade, you should be in the clear.

Naturally, a two-handed strike would require two-hands to block, as the increase in striking strength would blow through your guard otherwise. The one thing you should know is this, though: when blocking a two-handed slash, you cannot simply keep both of your hands on the hilt of your weapon like you would do with a two-handed attack of your own - the force of your opponents blow will be impacting a specific area on your sword, and since both of your hands are on the same side the weaker side of your blade would fall out of the opponent hit far enough down.

Here's an example for visualization: I use a two-handed vertical strike at you, and you guard by holding your blade as you would for a two-handed horizontal strike with both hands on the hilt. The catch is this: I strike closer towards the tip of your blade and because of this I am able to power through your guard and strike you in the shoulder.

In cases like this, you want to do something different:

Horizontal Guard:
When blocking a a vertical strike, you want to place your weaker hand on the blunt of your blade towards the tip of your weapon. By doing this, you allow your elbows to act as shock-absorbers over the entire blade and you become able to block any vertical strike.

Drawback: Your hands are spread apart on the blade, meaning you have very limited follow up capabilities, and the opponent has a good opportunity to follow up with a stab and strike at your exposed chest. I'll elaborate on an alternate method in a moment.

The good thing about this particular method of blocking is that if you have to use it, you'll more often than not come to a stalemate with your opponent - you'll simply stop the slash, and because you will be pushing back with your own blade, neither of you will make leeway. When contact is broken, simply jump backwards - your opponent will either do the same or follow after you, but by jumping backwards you create the window of time needed to move to another defensive position.

Vertical Guard:
This guard follows the same basic principals of the horizontal guard in that it's used to block its counter part (the horizontal slash), but there is a difference: with a vertical guard, placing your hand towards the tip of your weapon is not only ineffective, it's also the wrong move to make.

Here is what you should do:

Place your blade on either side of you (reflecting which direction the slash of the opponent is coming from), and place both hands on the hilt (I'll elaborate why in a moment).

By doing this, the upper part of your arm is running straight down your side and is more than likely pressing against your chest. doing this, you create a solid base for the guard, as your arm won't move. By using your other hand, though, you provide a type of "cross-support", allowing you to block two-handed slashes without breaking one of your joints.

Now, most one-handed attacks can be countered with a one-handed guard that is similar to the above, though most people would simply counter-attack.

That's to say, if I attacked you with a one-handed vertical slash, you would normally counter by using a one-handed horizontal slash (though you would have to change the angle so that you're not slicing at waist level), to make contact with my blade.

Now, countering is simple, like I just said above: Countering is simply using another attack to block one of your opponents. By using counters and guards, you can break your opponents momentum, which is always good. Even if you can't gather up the momentum to preform attacks, if you halt your opponents momentum that's always good for you.

Hrm...I feel I'm forgetting something about Countering, but when I remember, will tell you. o.o"

Now, what most people do, or at least what my preferred method is, is to redirect my opponents momentum and use it against them, which is also a basic teaching in many martial arts.

For example, my opponent strikes at me with a vertical two handed slash, but I don't want to guard because I want to keep my left hand free for a counter-attack.

Now, this is where this move shines - against two-handed attacks or against an opponent who overpowers you.

I use my sword and open my arm outwards, which would place the strong (the flat part) of my blade against theirs. Because of the two handed slash uses a great amount of force in a single direction (in this case on a vertical axis), we can use our power to influence their horizontal axis.

By using doing this, we allow them to use their slash, but we've simply pushed it over. This leaves their momentum moving, but in the direction they did not want, allowing you to follow up with a counter attack.

The thing to remember is this: like in martial arts, redirecting your opponents momentum does little for you if you remain standing in front of them while you do so.

You want to side step while you redirect their momentum, often in the opposite direction of what you are doing; if I open my arm out to the right to redirect a vertical slash, I would need to sidestep to my left for it to be effective.

But, we'll cover effective dodging later.

Now, I've neglected stabs/lunges up to this point for a reason - from all my experience, guarding against a stab is not a good move, and it is also an impractical one to make. Your going to try and stop the small tip of a sword with your thin blade? They'd just slip right past it.

Now, countering can be done, though I prefer another method. When countering a stab, you have to combine two moves: you have to redirect and counter: when dealing with stabs, redirecting the move is crucial - if you don't push it out of the way you will be hit unless you dodge. The best thing to do then is to counter attack, so that the immediately take a hit before they can turn their stab into a horizontal strike, which is the most common counter to redirecting a stab.

This is easier show, so come at me with a stab, and then I'll attack you and let you practice the guards, counters, and redirects shown above.
 
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