3 vs 1

[Piccolosan]

Ma & Pa are both SM users

And they would do? Just keep Jman in Sage Mode nothing else, maybe genjutsu but thats about it

 

[Stewie Griffin]

And they would do? Just keep Jman in Sage Mode nothing else, maybe genjutsu but thats about it

I think they xan do bad ass ninjutsu together, really bad ass ninjutsu, and yes genjutsu is awesome too

 

[Olorin]

I think they xan do bad ass ninjutsu together, really bad ass ninjutsu, and yes genjutsu is awesome too

^^

 

[Sazzi]

jiraya wins... in sage mode his speed goes up, along with his power, and damage tolerance... going of the theory that jiraya wouldnt give tsunade enough time to pull off two jutsu's he takes all three of them down before they have time to do anything... it take lee and guy time to open gates, and gates do not help damage tolerance so they both go down in one hit... tsunade must pull her slug summoning jutsu, put one on each lee and guy and use regeneration to help heal them to keep them in the game, and that is her only role as she has no offense to offer because of her lack of speed... of which jiraya can end her before she can do that as well....

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

I agree but ppl are still saying Jman will win against two gates users in my opinion thats underestimating it

And in my opinion it would take at least three "Guys" to successfully take on Jiraiya. I think Sage Mode makes someone faster and stronger than the gates does. Maybe it isn't that way in RP here but in the manga they sure seem to make it seem that way.

Plus Guy naturally isn't as strong as Jiraiya, and I know Lee isn't. And technically Tsunade isn't 'strong' as in she could lift stuff, but her punches are very damaging. This is because she releases built up chakra from her fist at the point of impact.

Anyway I digress, Sage mode takes multiple chakras and mixes them together to become more potent, as we have seen the more potent the chakra and the more of it you have the stronger and faster you can go. Examples are Naruto with nature chakra, Naruto with rikudo mode, Tailed beast cloaks, etc.

And the gates just reaches the user's maximum potential speed and strength. It doesn't increase the amount of chakra they have, just the amount they can release at one time. So people who have significantly more chakra or another source of chakra or power should always beat someone using the gates.

This is why people with huge chakra bases are all physically the strongest and some of the fastest in the manga.
Jiraiya-naturally strong and fast, huge chakra even without sage mode
A-huge chakra naturally super fast and strong even before raiton armor
Kisame-huge chakra, super strong and faster than most people
Naruto - super strong naturally, not so fast normally but that could be because he devotes some of his chakra to suppressing the nine-tails chakra in his normal state and he has terrible chakra control. He still is terrible at it and wastes a ton of chakra.

Anyway I think that Guy would never be able to equal any of these others in speed or strength in their respective modes (except for Kisame as he doesn't have one). Like his speed using the Gates wouldn't be equal to Jiraiya's or Naruto's speed using Sage Mode as they aren't just using their own maximum potential but augmenting it with stronger chakra combined with their own chakra. Feel free to disagree but please put reasons why and not just 'no' or something like that.

 

[Shisuisama]

And in my opinion it would take at least three "Guys" to successfully take on Jiraiya. I think Sage Mode makes someone faster and stronger than the gates does. Maybe it isn't that way in RP here but in the manga they sure seem to make it seem that way.

Plus Guy naturally isn't as strong as Jiraiya, and I know Lee isn't. And technically Tsunade isn't 'strong' as in she could lift stuff, but her punches are very damaging. This is because she releases built up chakra from her fist at the point of impact.

Anyway I digress, Sage mode takes multiple chakras and mixes them together to become more potent, as we have seen the more potent the chakra and the more of it you have the stronger and faster you can go. Examples are Naruto with nature chakra, Naruto with rikudo mode, Tailed beast cloaks, etc.

And the gates just reaches the user's maximum potential speed and strength. It doesn't increase the amount of chakra they have, just the amount they can release at one time. So people who have significantly more chakra or another source of chakra or power should always beat someone using the gates.

This is why people with huge chakra bases are all physically the strongest and some of the fastest in the manga.
Jiraiya-naturally strong and fast, huge chakra even without sage mode
A-huge chakra naturally super fast and strong even before raiton armor
Kisame-huge chakra, super strong and faster than most people
Naruto - super strong naturally, not so fast normally but that could be because he devotes some of his chakra to suppressing the nine-tails chakra in his normal state and he has terrible chakra control. He still is terrible at it and wastes a ton of chakra.

Anyway I think that Guy would never be able to equal any of these others in speed or strength in their respective modes (except for Kisame as he doesn't have one). Like his speed using the Gates wouldn't be equal to Jiraiya's or Naruto's speed using Sage Mode as they aren't just using their own maximum potential but augmenting it with stronger chakra combined with their own chakra. Feel free to disagree but please put reasons why and not just 'no' or something like that.

i agree with most except tsunade's punch, she has raw strength already, her excellent chakra control is what lead to her incredible raw strength.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

i agree with most except tsunade's punch, she has raw strength already, her excellent chakra control is what lead to her incredible raw strength.

Yeah she has raw strength but I don't think she is naturally as strong as Jiraiya or A or Kisame. I think she has the strongest punch only because of her excellent chakra control.

 

[Shisuisama]

Yeah she has raw strength but I don't think she is naturally as strong as Jiraiya or A or Kisame. I think she has the strongest punch only because of her excellent chakra control.

so you telling me lifting Gamabunta sword is not strong? and knocking down buildings with out using her chakra enhanced punch weak?

 

[FTG Johnny]

All of you are underestimating gates and its speed, why are you putting two gates users that is way to unfair

dude i think your underestemating jman in sage mode, during SM Hes speed goes up and strength and resistant to damage.
While ma and pa provide him with unlimited SM.
When on the other hand lee and gai can only stay on gates not for long.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

so you telling me lifting Gamabunta sword is not strong? and knocking down buildings with out using her chakra enhanced punch weak?

When did she do either of those things? Every time she punches she uses a chakra enhanced punch. So yeah, and I don't remember her lifting gamabunta's sword, I remember her standing on it fighting Oro.

 

[Olorin]

When did she do either of those things? Every time she punches she uses a chakra enhanced punch. So yeah, and I don't remember her lifting gamabunta's sword, I remember her standing on it fighting Oro.

she pinned Manda to the ground

anyway, you dont need to be normally strong because that only goes so far if you want to get further you need chakra so to argue about that is kinda pointless

 

[Jonathon]

I think the three would win in this one but it would be really close and one of them might die.