3 treasures: Totsuka sword, Yata mirror and...

[Hammy120290]

We all know pain was a lesser form of the real rikudou, so that would give kishi the incentive to make a lesser form of the magatama. I was just trying to make the point that it could connect naruto with rikudou because of the depictions of that necklace.
If i remember rightly, in Japanese mythology, Susunoo used both mirror and sword to defeat the Yamata no Orochi. Which we saw at the end of the Itachi v Sasuke fight, no where does it say in manga or mythology context that susunoo possessed the Magatama.

No I understand what your saying.

I merely said he used Susanoo to say retrieve the Magatama.

Naruto doesnt need to follow the mythology 100%.

But I like your thinking I think me and you are on the same...well I dunno...say were on the same "standard of thinking on trying to predict the future of Naruto" lmao

I do relate some of my ideas to the mythology.

 

[ast_sir]

well the theory is somewhat cool... having itachi getting 2 of the treasures, leads to a conclusion of him havin 3rd one... it doesnt have to be the necklace but the stuff he gave to naruto... it does actually stand for a gift... plus it was kinda obvious that he used a lot of his powers, thus resulting in his defeat against sasuke...

i just wanna say he did give up something important for the sake of others, leaving him self at disadvantage... altruism? yeah, i guess so!

 

[black uchiha]

huh?

If your meaning Tsunade's necklace i.e. the 1st's necklace then no I'm not.

That necklace just supressed Bijuu f/e that would be useful to the SOSP if it supressed the Juubi but just think about this...

The necklace is destroyed....

yea i knew it was destroyed...i was trying to call it the jewel u was talking about but i did not know what a "Magatama Jewel" was but now i do so go ahead...

 

[~Lumos~]

great theory man!!

 

[Dragon Lord]

this theory have been mentioned before by me in full and after alot of research!! - here is the original theory....

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[Hammy120290]

this theory have been mentioned before by me in full and after alot of research!! - here is the original theory....

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Your theory is similar but in know way the same theory.

You say it will help Sasuke see the light within himself etc.

I never concluded what the power would be.

Also you relate almost everything to the Japanese Mythology whereas I was trying to be more flexible around the mythology.

No offence to your thread but the 1st post is a wall of text with 1 or 2 links to your evidence/images.

I believe mine is different to yours and easier to read- no offence.

 

[Abra]

I really like this theory and i can actually see this happening as it does make alot of sense because i can't imagine what else Itachi could have given Naruto

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

very interesting..........

 

[Sharingan Itachi]

Great theory man, If its true then I'd be interested to see how Kishi will use it as a weapon and what would it look like on Naruto, and I also like to see its awakening conditions.

 

[Demosthenes]

Not sure if anyone has said this yet, but the Totsuka no Tsurugi is not confirmed to be one of the three treasures. In the link you provided it talks about the Sword Kusanagi. Though the Totsuka has been referred to as Kusanagi, there is another blade that is referred to as Kusanagi. If I recall correctly Orochimaru's sword, which is known to have special traits, is called Kusanagi. Though your theory is likely, it is also likely that the sword that is one of the three Narutoverse treasures is actually Orochimaru's sword. (It would justify his knowing about the treasures.) And if Orochimaru's sword was to be confirmed to be a treasure it would somewhat discredit your theory, because it would mean that Itachi wouldn't be known to to have owned more than one treasure.
So, we need to find out. >.>

 

[Akuhei]

I don't mean to ruin your theories or rain on your parade, but Itachi didn't really know Naruto very well, except as the vessel for the Kyuubi. They really didn't interact much in the manga, unless they were fighting. I don't think Itachi would have thought Naruto was strong enough to be worthy of one of the treasures.
As for the tomoe marking both the Sage of Six Paths and Naruto, I think this may be the Sage's own kind of "signature" he left when he created the Kyuubi and all the other bijuu.
I have at least three very different theories on this subject myself:

1. Itachi left the Magatama jewel(s) in Sasuke, not Naruto. Remember, Itachi wants Sasuke to be able to kill Madara, and I doubt he thought that just putting his Amaterasu in Sasuke's eye would be enough. Itachi could have had many, many opportunities to do this, as he was with Sasuke much more than he was with Naruto, and especially in Sasuke's head, where he could have implanted the jewels. It could be that Itachi wanted to defeat Madara and control the Kyuubi. Susano'o is very powerful, but against the Kyuubi's power, it would likely lose. It's at least almost plausible that Itachi gave Sasuke the jewels or the way to the jewels just in case he came into contact with the Kyuubi's power.

2. The tomoe of the Sharingan themselves are the Magatama jewel(s). There are a total of six (three for each eye), and after you gain all three tomoe, the way is opened to gain Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susano'o. Susano'o is the way to find the Yata Mirror and the Sword of Totsuka. So, perhaps the jewel(s) are there, but are used as the tool to gain more useful treasures.

3. There are no Magatama jewels in the Naruto universe. The Susano'o itself is extremely powerful, and coupled with the Yata Mirror and the Sword of Totsuka, it's fair to say that it's unbeatable. There's currently no reason to increase its power even more, unless there's something that can rival the strength of Susano'o.

 

[Hammy120290]

Not sure if anyone has said this yet, but the Totsuka no Tsurugi is not confirmed to be one of the three treasures. In the link you provided it talks about the Sword Kusanagi. Though the Totsuka has been referred to as Kusanagi, there is another blade that is referred to as Kusanagi. If I recall correctly Orochimaru's sword, which is known to have special traits, is called Kusanagi. Though your theory is likely, it is also likely that the sword that is one of the three Narutoverse treasures is actually Orochimaru's sword. (It would justify his knowing about the treasures.) And if Orochimaru's sword was to be confirmed to be a treasure it would somewhat discredit your theory, because it would mean that Itachi wouldn't be known to to have owned more than one treasure.
So, we need to find out. >.>

Well if Orochimaru's sword was the legendary treasure....why was he looking for Itachi's to replace his Kusanagi?? It says in the manga cant remember were prob after he escapes Sasukes shoulder or something that he could never find it as it wasnt on the physical plain.

So I doubt his sword was the legendary one.

I don't mean to ruin your theories or rain on your parade, but Itachi didn't really know Naruto very well, except as the vessel for the Kyuubi. They really didn't interact much in the manga, unless they were fighting. I don't think Itachi would have thought Naruto was strong enough to be worthy of one of the treasures.
As for the tomoe marking both the Sage of Six Paths and Naruto, I think this may be the Sage's own kind of "signature" he left when he created the Kyuubi and all the other bijuu.
I have at least three very different theories on this subject myself:

1. Itachi left the Magatama jewel(s) in Sasuke, not Naruto. Remember, Itachi wants Sasuke to be able to kill Madara, and I doubt he thought that just putting his Amaterasu in Sasuke's eye would be enough. Itachi could have had many, many opportunities to do this, as he was with Sasuke much more than he was with Naruto, and especially in Sasuke's head, where he could have implanted the jewels. It could be that Itachi wanted to defeat Madara and control the Kyuubi. Susano'o is very powerful, but against the Kyuubi's power, it would likely lose. It's at least almost plausible that Itachi gave Sasuke the jewels or the way to the jewels just in case he came into contact with the Kyuubi's power.

2. The tomoe of the Sharingan themselves are the Magatama jewel(s). There are a total of six (three for each eye), and after you gain all three tomoe, the way is opened to gain Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susano'o. Susano'o is the way to find the Yata Mirror and the Sword of Totsuka. So, perhaps the jewel(s) are there, but are used as the tool to gain more useful treasures.

3. There are no Magatama jewels in the Naruto universe. The Susano'o itself is extremely powerful, and coupled with the Yata Mirror and the Sword of Totsuka, it's fair to say that it's unbeatable. There's currently no reason to increase its power even more, unless there's something that can rival the strength of Susano'o.

LOL your not ruining anything...all you did was post your own theory. It doesnt disprove mine in anyway.

Your only valid...ish point is Itachi didnt know Naruto that well. But he didnt need to, he knew Naruto loved Sasuke and Sasuke cared for Naruto at one point to. Thats enough for him to trust Naruto to help Sasuke.

Your 1st point....in Sasuke not Naruto....you seem absolutely sure with no manga proof...logic or how it will affect the plot later on. You also kinda discredit your own theory at the end of your post.

Also Itachi couldnt trust Sasuke with killing Madara or giving him the Magatama...I mean Itachis not stupid he knows how manipulative Madara is etc. Thats why he implanted a Ameratsu to activate on seeing Madara's Sharingan.

I doubt that Sasuke has any of the treasures except the ghourd and the sword. I think Itachi knew Sasuke would need them...but I dont think he has unlocked them yet.

The tomoe of the Sharingan?? Yeah the Magatama are tomoe's that doesnt mean their related AT ALL to the Sharingan and the fact they have tomoe's.

Your 3rd and final point makes no sense to me tbh. You have basically discredited you own theory with this post.

You say your positive 100% Itachi gave Sasuke the Magatama Jewels but then you say "There's currently no reason to increase its power" so what is it? Does Sasuke get the treasure in your eyes or what?

IMO it makes far far far more sense that Naruto gets the Magatama.

We dont know what the Magatama do yet in terms of a "power" but...

I have a guess:

The magatama are the ultimate form of understanding Ninjutsu and these Magatama were how the SOSP invented Ninjutsu etc etc.

If Naruto see's a Ninjutsu he will immediately understand it be able to copy it and maybe make it more powerful. (Basically its like the Sharingan but on a whole other level of copying Ninjutsu)

It also allows you to see chakra flow much like the Byakugan combined with the Sharingan.

 

[Ikari Shinji Kun]

very nice theory, it's a hell of a lot more thought out than most of the crap on here

 

[Ariow]

Where does it even say in the manga that their is a magatama its a really good theory but just beacause its part of japanese folklore dosent mean it has to be a part of the Naruto series.

 

[Hammy120290]

Where does it even say in the manga that their is a magatama its a really good theory but just beacause its part of japanese folklore dosent mean it has to be a part of the Naruto series.

Most of the Sharingan or...legendary powers are part of Japanese folklore and related to Naruto - Susanoo, Tsukuyomi, Ameratsu.

And we have seen the 2 out of 3 treasures - the sword & the mirror

 

[~Kaylie~]

lol you really wen tall out on this theory but i think that its really good adn could actually be true!

 

[Sostrange89]

Look I think Naruto does have the magatama and he'll use it to defeat Sasuke with it. It'll be just like the legend when the user of the magatama defeats the user that held both the yata mirror and the totsuka sword

 

[-Hades-]

Nice theory dude... i get your point and it does indeed make sense.
Also i agree that naruto is based on some Japanese mythology (Izanagi).

 

[Mystikk]

Well if Orochimaru's sword was the legendary treasure....why was he looking for Itachi's to replace his Kusanagi?? It says in the manga cant remember were prob after he escapes Sasukes shoulder or something that he could never find it as it wasnt on the physical plain.

So I doubt his sword was the legendary one.





LOL your not ruining anything...all you did was post your own theory. It doesnt disprove mine in anyway.

Your only valid...ish point is Itachi didnt know Naruto that well. But he didnt need to, he knew Naruto loved Sasuke and Sasuke cared for Naruto at one point to. Thats enough for him to trust Naruto to help Sasuke.

Your 1st point....in Sasuke not Naruto....you seem absolutely sure with no manga proof...logic or how it will affect the plot later on. You also kinda discredit your own theory at the end of your post.

Also Itachi couldnt trust Sasuke with killing Madara or giving him the Magatama...I mean Itachis not stupid he knows how manipulative Madara is etc. Thats why he implanted a Ameratsu to activate on seeing Madara's Sharingan.

I doubt that Sasuke has any of the treasures except the ghourd and the sword. I think Itachi knew Sasuke would need them...but I dont think he has unlocked them yet.

The tomoe of the Sharingan?? Yeah the Magatama are tomoe's that doesnt mean their related AT ALL to the Sharingan and the fact they have tomoe's.

Your 3rd and final point makes no sense to me tbh. You have basically discredited you own theory with this post.

You say your positive 100% Itachi gave Sasuke the Magatama Jewels but then you say "There's currently no reason to increase its power" so what is it? Does Sasuke get the treasure in your eyes or what?

IMO it makes far far far more sense that Naruto gets the Magatama.

We dont know what the Magatama do yet in terms of a "power" but...

I have a guess:

The magatama are the ultimate form of understanding Ninjutsu and these Magatama were how the SOSP invented Ninjutsu etc etc.

If Naruto see's a Ninjutsu he will immediately understand it be able to copy it and maybe make it more powerful. (Basically its like the Sharingan but on a whole other level of copying Ninjutsu)

It also allows you to see chakra flow much like the Byakugan combined with the Sharingan.

Could be absolutely right I hope so

 

[Jack Spicer]

My favorite theory. I remember reading this from you (Or someone who reposted this.). It better be Naruto's gift.