3 tomoe Itachi VS Tsunade

[jay2512]

Totsuka or Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu just to many 1shot kills for Itachi....

its just 3 tomoe sharingan

 

[jay2512]

Starting distance 2 m? Itachi cant use his MS? Tsunade with 1 punch. xD
hell, no

Tsunade wins, but with mid-high diff.

i agree 1 punch would kill him nasty lol but even though MS isnt involved, you cannot disregard the general capabilites of what a three tomoe sharingan can do..

 

[Icelerate]

Itachi. Tsunade to slow to land a punch on him, on top of that Genjutsu would drop her. We already seen soon as Itachi looked at Deidara & Orochimaru they were already caught in his Genjutsu and with a simple kunai he cut off Oro hand but this time he will cut off Tsunade's head.

You do realize that while Itachi is trying to cut Tsunade's head, her cellular regeneration will slow the process down. In the meantime, the pain Tsunade feels from the kunai will break her out of genjutsu and then she punches Itachi who turns out to be a crow clones which blinds her.

Totsuka or Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu just to many 1shot kills for Itachi....

This is 3 tomoe Itachi so MS is restricted.

Starting distance 2 m ( 2 m against a Taijutsu Master?? Against TSUNADE??) Itachi cant use his MS? Tsunade with 1 punch. xD
hell, no

Tsunade wins, but with mid-high diff.

I agree and I am a bit surprised that you said mid-high, I thought you'd say Tsunade stomps but it is good that you are being unbiased. The distance was made 2 m for the lolz.

@Jay I understand what you are saying. By full knowledge, what I mean is that Tsunade knows Itachi's fighting style and all his ninjutsus and genjutsus.

 

[Champ]

You do realize that while Itachi is trying to cut Tsunade's head, her cellular regeneration will slow the process down. In the meantime, the pain Tsunade feels from the kunai will break her out of genjutsu and then she punches Itachi who turns out to be a crow clones which blinds her.

One slice and her head is off.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Are you sure Tsunade stomps? Sounds like you are underrating Itachi or overrating Tsunade but I do agree that she is the clear victor in this match up.

BTW I do know that you made a thread in which you explained that MS Itachi would have trouble fighting Tsunade. I don't think so though since Itachi has been portrayed to be at a much higher level than Tsunade. Tsunade has no counter to amaterasu, Yata Mirror, Totsuka blade and Tsukiyomi. All in all, I don't want to underrate Tsunade but since Itachi has many counters to Tsunade's abilities, MS Itachi stomps even though Tsunade is underrated by many and strong.

While Itachi may be able to avoid direct hits from Tsunade via Sharingan reading of movements another issue arises in terms of taijutsu, the tendacy of her strikes to send shockwaves through the ground. Itachi would have no way of reading those. Not only does her her heavenly kick of pain do this but as seen with her scuffle with kabuto, as do her ground centered punched, and in her encounter with naruto her finger attack does as well. And while Itachi may think he has dodged the attack he may end up in a predicament very similar to Pein's Preta encountered when he tried avoid Naruto's punch.
Itachi had been held to Godly standards but if anything, his fight with Kabuto displayed that he can be caught off guard even by taijutsu. That he is not as capable as people thought he was. His bread and butter is his MS techniques. In most fights we've seen him win it's been because of those MS techniques. He one shotted Kakashi with Tsukuyomi. But was fatigued after. He stopped Kirin with Susanoo. He killed summons with Amaterasu. But what has he really done without he MS techniques? You removed those techniques from the equation so the burden of proving that he still has a chance against Tsunade relies on you.
Tsunade has proven her ability to tank katons.
Tsunade has proven that she is not slow.
Tsunade has proven her prowess in taijutsu.
Tsunade has proven her prowess in medical ninjutsu and in doing so her prowess in chakra control.
That is all that's needed to beat a 3 tomoe Itachi.
Three tomoe Itachi has 2 options try to engage Tsunade in direct hand to hand combat or try to use genjutsu on her.
Medical Ninjutsu requires precise chakra control. Tsunade has healed the citizens of her village twice.
The way in which genjutsu works is the caster controlling victim's chakra flow to the victim's head. However genjutsu can be countered if the victim is able to stop their own chakra flow. With such great chakra control this shouldn't pose much of a problem for Tsunade. I know 3 tomoe Itachi immobilized Orochimaru. This is true, but Orochimaru was not hailed as the greatest medical ninja nor has his chakra control been noted to be near Tsunade's level of expertise.
Because genjutsu would therefore serve as a waste of time, he would have to face her in CQC. Regardless of who you are it is doubtful that you can take Tsunade in CQC. Considering the way to kill Tsunade is either to exhaust her chakra or decapitate her Itachi has his work cut out for him having a kunai as his main form of weapon. He also does not have the option of blocking because the force of Tsunade's strike will break what ever he decides to block with. So he must engage in CQC with Tsunade without ever allowing himself to be touched. Let's not mention Katsuyu. Itachi's Katon's are not big enough to take down Katsuyu and may even be countered Katsuyu's acid. Beyond that how could Itachi go toe to toe with Tsunade while avoid being crushed or melted by Katsuyu?
I don't underestimate Itachi nor Overrate Tsunade. The fact of the matter is that Tsunade is a top tier fighter. As is Itachi. However, much of Itachi's fighting style relies on his MS. Taking that away makes him much weaker.

Now you say that Tsunade has no way past Yata Mirror. But considering she has Katsuyu who's acid must be more acidic than Mei's( as Katsuyu's easily and quickly melted rock and Mei's barely melted the rock wall in the room in which she was melting Sasuke's susanoo was not melting at all) Could attack Sasuke from Behind. Leaving a gaping whole in Susanoo.

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Furthermore Tsunade was able to get behind a Susanoo clone who has both EMS Sharingan and the Rinnegan Shared vision and strike it's back.

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As I've stated many times before Tsunade has an enormous supply of chakra and has shown she's able to act even when in extreme pain. So should Itachi decide to attack Tsunade with Amaterasu, the problem then becomes the fact that he has not proven himself particularly skilled with Enton. As Tsunade will continue to be on fire, that does not mean she cannot continue to attack. It is logical to assume that if she can bear to attack when impaled by two swords she can attack while burning. If she does so, Itachi's Susanoo will be set on fire as well. As the black flames will be working against him, he will have to suppress them. But suppressing them is pointless unless he suppresses the flames on Tsunade as she can continually set him on fire. Because he is not particularly skilled at Enton it will probably take a lot out of him to extinguish the black flames.
In order for the Totsuka Blade to be truly effective he has to hit Tsunade with it. Tsunade is the world's best medical ninja and we know that based on what she taught Sakura that healing is the secondary function of a medical nin, and avoiding attacks is the the primary task of a medical nin because if they die there's no one to heal the team. Therefore it only stands to reason that Tsunade is one of the most evasive characters in Naruto if her primary skill is evasion when her secondary skill is unparalleled. People mistake her decision to tank as an inability to avoid. But Madara's Katon is a perfect example of how she could have done either but chose to tank the attack. In addition if Tsunade's body were incapable of reacting quickly to attacks then Dan would not have been able to help her dodge Madara's attack as it still would have been impossible. There is a big difference between hitting large targets such as the heads of Oro's Hydra Tech and hitting a woman. There's a large difference between hitting a stationary man not paying attention and hitting an evasion specialist.

She should have some of the best chakra control in the narutoverse as the best medical nin
She also must understand very well the mechanics of genjutsu Tsukuyomi included based on how easily she healed Kakashi and Sasuke. Because she healed their injuries she should also have some idea of what to expect. Furthermore, even if she can't if she decides to use Katsuyu, a katsuyu that sits on her shoulder like the one she used during the Pein invasion should be capable of waking her. And her mental fortitude was great enough to overcome her deepest fear, so I'm not sure how damaging mentally Tsukuyomi would be for her, she may be able to tank the mental trauma.

You underrate Tsunade because you don't think critically about her skills and her feats and the implication it has in other settings.

 

[Bogard]

@Taz i think you underestimate Itachis speed here

 

[Tazzilla88]

@Taz i think you underestimate Itachis speed here

Itachi is fast yes, but he's not leaps past Tsunade as Tsunade herself is not slow. In fact there are cannon sources of her moving faster than Jiraiya is able to use a jutsu. And Mei being able to use a jutsu.
People just assume Tsunade is slow. But her feats point to otherwise. What I'm saying is that because Itachi's only choice is to engage in CQC he will not be able to consistently dodge all of her attacks continually. When Kabuto did it she had not been battle since she left Konoha according to Kabuto. So she was a bit rusty then. If now, she has been training and has is fast enough to attack a EMS user I imagine she will hit Itachi with at least one strike.

 

[Icelerate]

While Itachi may be able to avoid direct hits from Tsunade via Sharingan reading of movements another issue arises in terms of taijutsu, the tendacy of her strikes to send shockwaves through the ground. Itachi would have no way of reading those. Not only does her her heavenly kick of pain do this but as seen with her scuffle with kabuto, as do her ground centered punched, and in her encounter with naruto her finger attack does as well. And while Itachi may think he has dodged the attack he may end up in a predicament very similar to Pein's Preta encountered when he tried avoid Naruto's punch.

I agree that Tsunade dominates Itachi in a taijutsu scuffle.

Itachi had been held to Godly standards but if anything, his fight with Kabuto displayed that he can be caught off guard even by taijutsu. That he is not as capable as people thought he was. His bread and butter is his MS techniques. In most fights we've seen him win it's been because of those MS techniques. He one shotted Kakashi with Tsukuyomi. But was fatigued after. He stopped Kirin with Susanoo. He killed summons with Amaterasu. But what has he really done without he MS techniques? You removed those techniques from the equation so the burden of proving that he still has a chance against Tsunade relies on you.

Well some of Blaze Release's posts prove that Itachi even without MS is kage level and a formidable opponent but he seem uninterested nowadays.

Tsunade has proven her ability to tank katons.
Tsunade has proven that she is not slow.
Tsunade has proven her prowess in taijutsu.
Tsunade has proven her prowess in medical ninjutsu and in doing so her prowess in chakra control.
That is all that's needed to beat a 3 tomoe Itachi.
Three tomoe Itachi has 2 options try to engage Tsunade in direct hand to hand combat or try to use genjutsu on her.
Medical Ninjutsu requires precise chakra control. Tsunade has healed the citizens of her village twice.
The way in which genjutsu works is the caster controlling victim's chakra flow to the victim's head. However genjutsu can be countered if the victim is able to stop their own chakra flow. With such great chakra control this shouldn't pose much of a problem for Tsunade. I know 3 tomoe Itachi immobilized Orochimaru. This is true, but Orochimaru was not hailed as the greatest medical ninja nor has his chakra control been noted to be near Tsunade's level of expertise.

You do realize Sasuke one shotted a medical ninja with genjutsu and his genjutsu is far inferior to Itachi's.

Because genjutsu would therefore serve as a waste of time, he would have to face her in CQC. Regardless of who you are it is doubtful that you can take Tsunade in CQC. Considering the way to kill Tsunade is either to exhaust her chakra or decapitate her Itachi has his work cut out for him having a kunai as his main form of weapon. He also does not have the option of blocking because the force of Tsunade's strike will break what ever he decides to block with. So he must engage in CQC with Tsunade without ever allowing himself to be touched. Let's not mention Katsuyu. Itachi's Katon's are not big enough to take down Katsuyu and may even be countered Katsuyu's acid. Beyond that how could Itachi go toe to toe with Tsunade while avoid being crushed or melted by Katsuyu?
I don't underestimate Itachi nor Overrate Tsunade. The fact of the matter is that Tsunade is a top tier fighter. As is Itachi. However, much of Itachi's fighting style relies on his MS. Taking that away makes him much weaker.

I don't understand what you mean by top tier fighter. I think she can beat A and would give 3rd Raikage a good fight. I actually think she stands a good chance at beating Jiraiya and Orochimaru unlike others who think Tsunade is vastly inferior to them so no I don't underrate Tsunade.

Now you say that Tsunade has no way past Yata Mirror. But considering she has Katsuyu who's acid must be more acidic than Mei's( as Katsuyu's easily and quickly melted rock and Mei's barely melted the rock wall in the room in which she was melting Sasuke's susanoo was not melting at all) Could attack Sasuke from Behind. Leaving a gaping whole in Susanoo.

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Furthermore Tsunade was able to get behind a Susanoo clone who has both EMS Sharingan and the Rinnegan Shared vision and strike it's back.

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Well you were very observant I never noticed Katsuyu's acid is that corrosive. Still getting around the Yata Mirror will be tough but you do realize Itachi can simply one shot Katsuyu with amaterasu right?

As I've stated many times before Tsunade has an enormous supply of chakra and has shown she's able to act even when in extreme pain. So should Itachi decide to attack Tsunade with Amaterasu, the problem then becomes the fact that he has not proven himself particularly skilled with Enton. As Tsunade will continue to be on fire, that does not mean she cannot continue to attack. It is logical to assume that if she can bear to attack when impaled by two swords she can attack while burning. If she does so, Itachi's Susanoo will be set on fire as well. As the black flames will be working against him, he will have to suppress them. But suppressing them is pointless unless he suppresses the flames on Tsunade as she can continually set him on fire. Because he is not particularly skilled at Enton it will probably take a lot out of him to extinguish the black flames.
In order for the Totsuka Blade to be truly effective he has to hit Tsunade with it. Tsunade is the world's best medical ninja and we know that based on what she taught Sakura that healing is the secondary function of a medical nin, and avoiding attacks is the the primary task of a medical nin because if they die there's no one to heal the team. Therefore it only stands to reason that Tsunade is one of the most evasive characters in Naruto if her primary skill is evasion when her secondary skill is unparalleled. People mistake her decision to tank as an inability to avoid. But Madara's Katon is a perfect example of how she could have done either but chose to tank the attack. In addition if Tsunade's body were incapable of reacting quickly to attacks then Dan would not have been able to help her dodge Madara's attack as it still would have been impossible. There is a big difference between hitting large targets such as the heads of Oro's Hydra Tech and hitting a woman. There's a large difference between hitting a stationary man not paying attention and hitting an evasion specialist.

The point of the Totsuka blade is that Tsunade can't afford to come close to Itachi's susanoo. Tsunade has no ranged attacks with the exception of katsuyu which can be controlled by the sharingan.

She should have some of the best chakra control in the narutoverse as the best medical nin
She also must understand very well the mechanics of genjutsu Tsukuyomi included based on how easily she healed Kakashi and Sasuke. Because she healed their injuries she should also have some idea of what to expect. Furthermore, even if she can't if she decides to use Katsuyu, a katsuyu that sits on her shoulder like the one she used during the Pein invasion should be capable of waking her. And her mental fortitude was great enough to overcome her deepest fear, so I'm not sure how damaging mentally Tsukuyomi would be for her, she may be able to tank the mental trauma.

When does healing someone elses trauma equate to being able to heal your own. Tsunade had trouble overcoming her fear of blood even though she is a medical ninja. With full knowledge, Itachi would shove blood down her throat for three straight days lol and Tsunade would become scared of blood again. Then he can use regular genjutsu to haunt Tsunade.

You underrate Tsunade because you don't think critically about her skills and her feats and the implication it has in other settings.

I actually respect Tsunade's power and think she can fight against a lot of strong ninjas but I don't think she can beat any MS user since all their abilities seems like were made just to kill someone like Tsunade.

As a matter of fact, I think you don't understand that I actually don't underrate Tsunade because most people say she gets killed by some easy decapitation or that she can't recover from injuries to her brain or heart which is false. I defend her by saying that she can regenerate ANY internal organ, doesn't matter which.

What do you think are the extent to Tsunade's recovery? Do you think she can tank high level attacks such as kirin, TBB, poison, sand coffin etc?

 

[jay2512]

While Itachi may be able to avoid direct hits from Tsunade via Sharingan reading of movements another issue arises in terms of taijutsu, the tendacy of her strikes to send shockwaves through the ground. Itachi would have no way of reading those. Not only does her her heavenly kick of pain do this but as seen with her scuffle with kabuto, as do her ground centered punched, and in her encounter with naruto her finger attack does as well. And while Itachi may think he has dodged the attack he may end up in a predicament very similar to Pein's Preta encountered when he tried avoid Naruto's punch.
Itachi had been held to Godly standards but if anything, his fight with Kabuto displayed that he can be caught off guard even by taijutsu. That he is not as capable as people thought he was. His bread and butter is his MS techniques. In most fights we've seen him win it's been because of those MS techniques. He one shotted Kakashi with Tsukuyomi. But was fatigued after. He stopped Kirin with Susanoo. He killed summons with Amaterasu. But what has he really done without he MS techniques? You removed those techniques from the equation so the burden of proving that he still has a chance against Tsunade relies on you.
Tsunade has proven her ability to tank katons.
Tsunade has proven that she is not slow.
Tsunade has proven her prowess in taijutsu.
Tsunade has proven her prowess in medical ninjutsu and in doing so her prowess in chakra control.
That is all that's needed to beat a 3 tomoe Itachi.
Three tomoe Itachi has 2 options try to engage Tsunade in direct hand to hand combat or try to use genjutsu on her.
Medical Ninjutsu requires precise chakra control. Tsunade has healed the citizens of her village twice.
The way in which genjutsu works is the caster controlling victim's chakra flow to the victim's head. However genjutsu can be countered if the victim is able to stop their own chakra flow. With such great chakra control this shouldn't pose much of a problem for Tsunade. I know 3 tomoe Itachi immobilized Orochimaru. This is true, but Orochimaru was not hailed as the greatest medical ninja nor has his chakra control been noted to be near Tsunade's level of expertise.
Because genjutsu would therefore serve as a waste of time, he would have to face her in CQC. Regardless of who you are it is doubtful that you can take Tsunade in CQC. Considering the way to kill Tsunade is either to exhaust her chakra or decapitate her Itachi has his work cut out for him having a kunai as his main form of weapon. He also does not have the option of blocking because the force of Tsunade's strike will break what ever he decides to block with. So he must engage in CQC with Tsunade without ever allowing himself to be touched. Let's not mention Katsuyu. Itachi's Katon's are not big enough to take down Katsuyu and may even be countered Katsuyu's acid. Beyond that how could Itachi go toe to toe with Tsunade while avoid being crushed or melted by Katsuyu?
I don't underestimate Itachi nor Overrate Tsunade. The fact of the matter is that Tsunade is a top tier fighter. As is Itachi. However, much of Itachi's fighting style relies on his MS. Taking that away makes him much weaker.

Now you say that Tsunade has no way past Yata Mirror. But considering she has Katsuyu who's acid must be more acidic than Mei's( as Katsuyu's easily and quickly melted rock and Mei's barely melted the rock wall in the room in which she was melting Sasuke's susanoo was not melting at all) Could attack Sasuke from Behind. Leaving a gaping whole in Susanoo.

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Furthermore Tsunade was able to get behind a Susanoo clone who has both EMS Sharingan and the Rinnegan Shared vision and strike it's back.

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As I've stated many times before Tsunade has an enormous supply of chakra and has shown she's able to act even when in extreme pain. So should Itachi decide to attack Tsunade with Amaterasu, the problem then becomes the fact that he has not proven himself particularly skilled with Enton. As Tsunade will continue to be on fire, that does not mean she cannot continue to attack. It is logical to assume that if she can bear to attack when impaled by two swords she can attack while burning. If she does so, Itachi's Susanoo will be set on fire as well. As the black flames will be working against him, he will have to suppress them. But suppressing them is pointless unless he suppresses the flames on Tsunade as she can continually set him on fire. Because he is not particularly skilled at Enton it will probably take a lot out of him to extinguish the black flames.
In order for the Totsuka Blade to be truly effective he has to hit Tsunade with it. Tsunade is the world's best medical ninja and we know that based on what she taught Sakura that healing is the secondary function of a medical nin, and avoiding attacks is the the primary task of a medical nin because if they die there's no one to heal the team. Therefore it only stands to reason that Tsunade is one of the most evasive characters in Naruto if her primary skill is evasion when her secondary skill is unparalleled. People mistake her decision to tank as an inability to avoid. But Madara's Katon is a perfect example of how she could have done either but chose to tank the attack. In addition if Tsunade's body were incapable of reacting quickly to attacks then Dan would not have been able to help her dodge Madara's attack as it still would have been impossible. There is a big difference between hitting large targets such as the heads of Oro's Hydra Tech and hitting a woman. There's a large difference between hitting a stationary man not paying attention and hitting an evasion specialist.

She should have some of the best chakra control in the narutoverse as the best medical nin
She also must understand very well the mechanics of genjutsu Tsukuyomi included based on how easily she healed Kakashi and Sasuke. Because she healed their injuries she should also have some idea of what to expect. Furthermore, even if she can't if she decides to use Katsuyu, a katsuyu that sits on her shoulder like the one she used during the Pein invasion should be capable of waking her. And her mental fortitude was great enough to overcome her deepest fear, so I'm not sure how damaging mentally Tsukuyomi would be for her, she may be able to tank the mental trauma.

You underrate Tsunade because you don't think critically about her skills and her feats and the implication it has in other settings.

not to be rude or anything but this is quite long and to be honest the last half of your response was directed to someone elses mistake of not reading the original post correctly. this focus' on 3 tomoe only and adding such a reply almost leaves it certain that more than 50% of the people will skip your thorough explanation on why you think tsunade supposably stomps.

remember itachi in this case has knowledge of tsunade and what shes capable of...

itachi has a finger technique as well... but im going to assume shes going to fight him looking at his legs... somehow.. hopefully she doesnt hit an exploding clone...

if you look at when itachi met up with kabuto how sasuke followed, you can tell itachi had the look of.. "i gotta deal with edo tensei AND moderate over sasuke at the same time" look. itachi getting hit could have been avoided if there werent certain actions he had to take to watch over his little brother.

 

[Tazzilla88]

I agree that Tsunade dominates Itachi in a taijutsu scuffle.

Well some of Blaze Release's posts prove that Itachi even without MS is kage level and a formidable opponent but he seem uninterested nowadays.

You do realize Sasuke one shotted a medical ninja with genjutsu and his genjutsu is far inferior to Itachi's.

I don't understand what you mean by top tier fighter. I think she can beat A and would give 3rd Raikage a good fight. I actually think she stands a good chance at beating Jiraiya and Orochimaru unlike others who think Tsunade is vastly inferior to them so no I don't underrate Tsunade.

Well you were very observant I never noticed Katsuyu's acid is that corrosive. Still getting around the Yata Mirror will be tough but you do realize Itachi can simply one shot Katsuyu with amaterasu right?

When does healing someone elses trauma equate to being able to heal your own. Tsunade had trouble overcoming her fear of blood even though she is a medical ninja. With full knowledge, Itachi would shove blood down her throat for three straight days lol and Tsunade would become scared of blood again. Then he can use regular genjutsu to haunt Tsunade.

I actually respect Tsunade's power and think she can fight against a lot of strong ninjas but I don't think she can beat any MS user since all their abilities seems like were made just to kill someone like Tsunade.

As a matter of fact, I think you don't understand that I actually don't underrate Tsunade because most people say she gets killed by some easy decapitation or that she can't recover from injuries to her brain or heart which is false. I defend her by saying that she can regenerate ANY internal organ, doesn't matter which.

What do you think are the extent to Tsunade's recovery? Do you think she can tank high level attacks such as kirin, TBB, poison, etc?

To answer your question, I think a TBB is too much for Tsunade to take. Kirin while it would fry the cells in her body consider how many cells she must've regrown regenerating her abdomen a number of times in this one fight. Then she took on a full body katon attack and healed from that. And had she not healed the other kages and donated chakra to onoki she would've still had chakra left. Poison essentially attacks the liver and damages cells individually technically speaking Tsunade should be capable of healing from poison.

One shotting Katusyu with Amaterasu is not so easy as Katsuyu can divide and allow the part that is burning to continue to burn and leave the rest of her unscathed.

Tsunade's fear of blood was not caused by actual blood, but more of an idea that Dan's and Nawaki's blood was on her hands. It is an issue she's been able to deal with since. She not only overcame her fear of blood but got closure with Dan. There is no logical reason to assume she will regain hemophobia now. And Your assuming she is incapable of breaking out of Tsukuyomi.

Tsunade's healing them with ease means she knows exactly what part of the brain was affected and she knows how it damages the brain and how it works. Which makes her more prepared to face it.

Sasuke's genjutsu one shotted a medical ninja? No medical ninja in konoha could cure Sasuke or Kakashi of the effects of Tsukuyomi. No medical ninja in Sunagakure could heal Kankuro after Sasori had poisoned him. No other Medical ninja could counter Chiyo's poisons. Orochimaru trusted no other medical ninjas not even Kabuto to try to heal his arms. Why? Because Tsunade and her pupils are bounds ahead of regular medical ninjutsu. When Kabuto tried a technique similar to Tsunade's he was incapable of healing from a rasengan though he was considered a medical ninja prodigy. Tsunade though has healed from being impaled on more than one occasion.

not to be rude or anything but this is quite long and to be honest the last half of your response was directed to someone elses mistake of not reading the original post correctly. this focus' on 3 tomoe only and adding such a reply almost leaves it certain that more than 50% of the people will skip your thorough explanation on why you think tsunade supposably stomps.

remember itachi in this case has knowledge of tsunade and what shes capable of...

itachi has a finger technique as well... but im going to assume shes going to fight him looking at his legs... somehow.. hopefully she doesnt hit an exploding clone...

if you look at when itachi met up with kabuto how sasuke followed, you can tell itachi had the look of.. "i gotta deal with edo tensei AND moderate over sasuke at the same time" look. itachi getting hit could have been avoided if there werent certain actions he had to take to watch over his little brother.

If people skip it is their choice to be ignorant of the argument I've already established. Itachi may know what she's capable of but as she has such precise chakra control how exactly does he manage to do any significant harm to her? without MS

 

[BlackDude]

Itachi genjustu

uh ease

 

[Nazgul]

Tsunade high difficulty, she is better in a tai jutsu battle, people under estimate her speed and evation as well as katsuya, but Itachi has killer genjutsu so it would be a good fight.

 

[jay2512]

To answer your question, I think a TBB is too much for Tsunade to take. Kirin while it would fry the cells in her body consider how many cells she must've regrown regenerating her abdomen a number of times in this one fight. Then she took on a full body katon attack and healed from that. And had she not healed the other kages and donated chakra to onoki she would've still had chakra left. Poison essentially attacks the liver and damages cells individually technically speaking Tsunade should be capable of healing from poison.

One shotting Katusyu with Amaterasu is not so easy as Katsuyu can divide and allow the part that is burning to continue to burn and leave the rest of her unscathed.

Tsunade's fear of blood was not caused by actual blood, but more of an idea that Dan's and Nawaki's blood was on her hands. It is an issue she's been able to deal with since. She not only overcame her fear of blood but got closure with Dan. There is no logical reason to assume she will regain hemophobia now. And Your assuming she is incapable of breaking out of Tsukuyomi.

Tsunade's healing them with ease means she knows exactly what part of the brain was affected and she knows how it damages the brain and how it works. Which makes her more prepared to face it.

Sasuke's genjutsu one shotted a medical ninja? No medical ninja in konoha could cure Sasuke or Kakashi of the effects of Tsukuyomi. No medical ninja in Sunagakure could heal Kankuro after Sasori had poisoned him. No other Medical ninja could counter Chiyo's poisons. Orochimaru trusted no other medical ninjas not even Kabuto to try to heal his arms. Why? Because Tsunade and her pupils are bounds ahead of regular medical ninjutsu. When Kabuto tried a technique similar to Tsunade's he was incapable of healing from a rasengan though he was considered a medical ninja prodigy. Tsunade though has healed from being impaled on more than one occasion.
If people skip it is their choice to be ignorant of the argument I've already established. Itachi may know what she's capable of but as she has such precise chakra control how exactly does he manage to do any significant harm to her? without MS

I understand your established opinion. Whether or not you understand mine is up to you. As I said before, I believe itachi's character design including everything from fighting style, attributes, to what he holds in his arsenal, was created to triumph over a character such as tsunade in a versus matchup. certain conditions such as distance, location, and intel are really put into play through imagination and what possible outcomes one would preferably believe as true. So in a sense I know I am not wrong, And I know you're not wrong.

 

[Chatte]

not to be rude or anything but this is quite long and to be honest the last half of your response was directed to someone elses mistake of not reading the original post correctly. this focus' on 3 tomoe only and adding such a reply almost leaves it certain that more than 50% of the people will skip your thorough explanation on why you think tsunade supposably stomps.

remember itachi in this case has knowledge of tsunade and what shes capable of...

itachi has a finger technique as well... but im going to assume shes going to fight him looking at his legs... somehow.. hopefully she doesnt hit an exploding clone...

if you look at when itachi met up with kabuto how sasuke followed, you can tell itachi had the look of.. "i gotta deal with edo tensei AND moderate over sasuke at the same time" look. itachi getting hit could have been avoided if there werent certain actions he had to take to watch over his little brother.

Well, Tsunade having Katsuyu is like the same here.
While one of them gets on the offensive, the other one finds an open door to hit him. And we've seen that one hit by Sakura herself can be deadly. Imagine Tsunade.

 

[Tazzilla88]

I understand your established opinion. Whether or not you understand mine is up to you. As I said before, I believe itachi's character design including everything from fighting style, attributes, to what he holds in his arsenal, was created to triumph over a character such as tsunade in a versus matchup. certain conditions such as distance, location, and intel are really put into play through imagination and what possible outcomes one would preferably believe as true. So in a sense I know I am not wrong, And I know you're not wrong.

I am not a fan of sophistry. You're dancing around the subject by not providing specific facts as to what in specific you are referring to.
What is his fighting style? How do you characterize it? Why does it grant him an advantage? Define attributes? How will he use those to his advantage? What does he hold in his arsenal?
The distance in this issue is in Tsunade's favor. Location is in Tsunade's favor. Knowledge in this case is neutral.

 

[jay2512]

I am not a fan of sophistry. You're dancing around the subject by not providing specific facts as to what in specific you are referring to.
What is his fighting style? How do you characterize it? Why does it grant him an advantage? Define attributes? How will he use those to his advantage? What does he hold in his arsenal?
The distance in this issue is in Tsunade's favor. Location is in Tsunade's favor. Knowledge in this case is neutral.

Sigh..

history of battles. In this case I'm defending itachi so, genjutsu off the bat. Not saying he one shots. But here is the history which i already know you know, orochimaru, deidara, sasuke, naruto, kakashi, kurenai. out of all his manga appearances this is his traditional style. More consistent then tsunade. it doesn't grant him an automatic advantage but it can be put into play of a possible outcome. Attributes I referred to as stats, like the databooks and how that reflects off of the character; so speed, intelligence, etc.. arsenal-genjutsu expertise, kunai, shuriken, Phoenix sage shuriken, explosive clones..

distance is in her favor? It can be in either of their favor. Is tsunades style of fighting by looking at someone's feet? You can set up your own scenario if you want, that will serve no real benefit..

 

[Tazzilla88]

Sigh..

history of battles. In this case I'm defending itachi so, genjutsu off the bat. Not saying he one shots. But here is the history which i already know you know, orochimaru, deidara, sasuke, naruto, kakashi, kurenai. out of all his manga appearances this is his traditional style. More consistent then tsunade. it doesn't grant him an automatic advantage but it can be put into play of a possible outcome. Attributes I referred to as stats, like the databooks and how that reflects off of the character; so speed, intelligence, etc.. arsenal-genjutsu expertise, kunai, shuriken, Phoenix sage shuriken, explosive clones..

distance is in her favor? It can be in either of their favor. Is tsunades style of fighting by looking at someone's feet? You can set up your own scenario if you want, that will serve no real benefit..

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So Itachi has a habit of going using Genjutsu right off the back? Particularly eye genjutsus usually. If you notice Tsunade has been battling Madara for quite a while now and has yet to look in his eyes. She's a senju who already knows about Sharingan genjutsu. The fact that his style is so consistent is what makes him more vulnerable as Tsunade has full knowledge. Databook stats aren't very reliable and are to be taken with a grain of salt. What really matters are cannon feats.
Well Itachi is a genjutsu specialist, whereas Tsunade is a taijutsu, evasion, and medical specialist. Kunai? Shuriken? These weapons seldom pose a threat to top tier fighters. When we're considering Exploding Clones Tsunade has Katsuyu.
Yes distance is in Tsunade's favor. She can immediately force Itachi into a taijutsu battle. Where do you get this crazy idea that in order to not look someone in the eyes while fighting you must look at their feet. I know as a martial artist I don't stare into someones eyes when I fight them nor do I stare at their feet.
It's not about setting up a scenario. It's about actually comparing the two based on their merits and abilities. Tsunade stomps three tomoe Itachi as she should be very capable of breaking through any attempt at genjutsu. She dominates in hand to hand. And without MS what does he have in his arsenal to sufficiently kill Tsunade?

 

[khaydz5]

lol with only 3 tomoe tsunade will fodderize itachi. regular genjutsu is useless against someone who can fully control her chakra.

only itachi's MS make him in the top tier. without that he's just in the level of 3tomoe kakashi.

 

[looking 4 name]

are you serious? even itachi at the age of 13 could rape tsunade mid diff

 

[khaydz5]

are you serious? even itachi at the age of 13 could rape tsunade mid diff

how about you, are you serious?lol