2nd kages vs Akatsuki

[Beans2]

Tobirama, Muu, Gengetsu

Kisame, Itachi, Obito

Distance: 50 meters
Intel: Full
Restrictions: None

Scenario 2: Deidara is added to Team 2

 

[Lariatoo]

No restrictions?
Juubito Soloes Lol

 

[Praydara]

Assuming you mean MS or Rinnegan Obito, team two still takes it low-diff both scenarios. IMO Itachi could probably take it on his own.

 

[ARGUS]

2nd Kages win with no more than mid diff

Muu > Obito, Muu > Kisame
Tobirama >> Obito, Tobirama > Itachi, Tobirama w/edo > Kisame
Gengetsu is weaker than all, however once the others are down, the last member gets ass raped

 

[-Akuma-]

Assuming sharingan can see Muu, Akatsuki wins if they can't Kages wins.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Badass generation of kages win

- Tobirama and his superior sensor skills + Hiraishin can dance around all of Team 2's attacks, and nobody can even locate Mū when he's invisible. Gengetsu will probably end up being warped, but he can attack Obito from the Kamui dimension in conjunction with an attack from Tobirama to counter Kamui. Hell, Tobirama himself can clown Obito with shadow clones. I guess Tobi could warp Kisame or Itachi to the Kamui dimension to fight the Mizukage, but I think Jōki bōi blows Kisame and the Samehada up before he can fire Daikōdan. Anyways, whoever on team 2 stays in the battlefield eventually gets killed by Tobirama or Mū

 

[TRE MERCER]

Mu beats Obito? Stop.

Your threads are terrible you say Obito there are like 100 versions of Obito.

Kisame clones confuses Muu Once Water dome comes out it's pretty much game over.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Mu beats Obito? Stop.

Your threads are terrible you say Obito there are like 100 versions of Obito.

Kisame clones confuses Muu Once Water dome comes out it's pretty much game over.

Yeah, Mū has a better chance than Obito to win in a 1v1 considering he can counter Kamui rather effectively.

Mū isn't getting caught in the water dome, but nice try.

Pretty sure he's talking about 1MS Tobi.

 

[Praydara]

Yeah, Mū has a better chance than Obito to win in a 1v1 considering he can counter Kamui rather effectively.

Mū isn't getting caught in the water dome, but nice try.

Pretty sure he's talking about 1MS Tobi.

How, exactly, do any of these break free from Itachi's genjutsu? Once they're hit with Tsukuyomi, they can't escape given that only true inheritors of the Sharingan can break free from it, and, very obviously, none of them have the Sharingan. Of course the assumption is that the Sharingan can see Muu while invisible, otherwise this thread would be entirely pointless because nobody could even fight against Muu in the first place....

How does Gengetsu attack Obito from within the Kamui dimension in the first place? You never even attempted to explain that, you just said it as though it were fact. Gengetsu gets stomped by Obito fairly easily, and saying someone can hurt Obito within the Kamui dimension without being able to use Kamui is complete nonsense.

As for Tobirama, Kisame's Water Release is on a far greater and more impressive scale, and even if Tobirama can beat Kisame, he has Itachi and Obito to worry about, both of which are a match for him. Adding Deidara in the second scenario makes this a complete stomp.

 

[super yang]

2nd generation wins

Tobirama can beat 1 MS obito

Muu trolls kisame & deidara simultaneously

gengetsu can stalemate Itachi 4 a good while

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

How, exactly, do any of these break free from Itachi's genjutsu? Once they're hit with Tsukuyomi, they can't escape given that only true inheritors of the Sharingan can break free from it, and, very obviously, none of them have the Sharingan. Of course the assumption is that the Sharingan can see Muu while invisible, otherwise this thread would be entirely pointless because nobody could even fight against Muu in the first place....

Mū being visible to the sharingan while using Mujin Meisai is your assumption... and it's looking like a wrong one with all the evidence favoring Mū in regards to that debate. Tobirama has Hiraishin and shadow clones to combat genjutsu. Gengetsu's a high kage level shinobi, and from this range with full intel, it's not going to be a feasible task landing genjutsu.

How does Gengetsu attack Obito from within the Kamui dimension in the first place? You never even attempted to explain that, you just said it as though it were fact. Gengetsu gets stomped by Obito fairly easily, and saying someone can hurt Obito within the Kamui dimension without being able to use Kamui is complete nonsense.

How is that nonsense? You need to calm down. Gengetsu has several ways to attack parts of Tobi's body in the Kamui dimension, like Water Gun, 2 Guns, and Great Water Arm if he's close enough. Idk how Tobi stomps Gengetsu if he warps himself in the Kamui dimension and attempts to fight him with full intel, since Gengetsu is better than 3T Obito.

As for Tobirama, Kisame's Water Release is on a far greater and more impressive scale, and even if Tobirama can beat Kisame, he has Itachi and Obito to worry about, both of which are a match for him. Adding Deidara in the second scenario makes this a complete stomp.

Cool, who doesn't know that Kisame is easily the best suiton user in the manga. Both Itachi and Kisame are good candidates to get atomized by Mū. So is Deidara, whose attacks can be sensed and evaded by Mū and Tobirama. Tobirama clowns Obito in similar fashion to the way Minato did.

 

[Praydara]

Mū being visible to the sharingan while using Mujin Meisai is your assumption... and it's looking like a wrong one with all the evidence favoring Mū in regards to that debate. Tobirama has Hiraishin and shadow clones to combat genjutsu. Gengetsu's a high kage level shinobi, and from this range with full intel, it's not going to be a feasible task landing genjutsu.



How is that nonsense? You need to calm down. Gengetsu has several ways to attack parts of Tobi's body in the Kamui dimension, like Water Gun, 2 Guns, and Great Water Arm if he's close enough. Idk how Tobi stomps Gengetsu if he warps himself in the Kamui dimension and attempts to fight him with full intel, since Gengetsu is better than 3T Obito.



Cool, who doesn't know that Kisame is easily the best suiton user in the manga. Both Itachi and Kisame are good candidates to get atomized by Mū. So is Deidara, whose attacks can be sensed and evaded by Mū and Tobirama. Tobirama clowns Obito in similar fashion to the way Minato did.

Alright, about the Gengetsu part I (wrongly) assumed you were talking about Obito while not warped, as in while Obito himself isn't in the dimension. Stupid assumption, sorry about that. Didn't make sense for fairly obvious reasons, and I apologize for that much. You're right on that count, if Obito were to fight Gengetsu in the Kamui dimension the odds would be in his favor, if it's MS Obito. Rinnegan Obito is probably a different story, depending on how much of the Rinnegan's power Obito can be assumed to have. By feats, he probably loses.

Anyway, though, if Mu is invisible to the Sharingan, then he very obviously takes out all three/four Akatsuki members, since none of them can even see him. I guess that depends on speculation, though, and for the sake of the fight being fair I'd say Itachi can see him. If Itachi's able to see him, he can probably catch him in genjutsu eventually.

Agh, I probably came off as a little aggressive and... well, shitty. My apologies for that, too. I usually try to avoid getting obnoxious in debates with people, but I suppose I was having something of an off day. Sorry.

 

[Beans2]

Mu beats Obito? Stop.

Your threads are terrible you say Obito there are like 100 versions of Obito.

Kisame clones confuses Muu Once Water dome comes out it's pretty much game over.

Lol, this dumbass. Read the title. It says "Akatsuki". Obito is in Team Akatsuki. What version of Obito was part of the Akatsuki? That's right, 1MS Obito.

 

[DMT]

lol at those trolls who think itachi can solo

if this is Rinnegan obito, team 2 win, if not, team 2 gets assraped

Muu > MS obito

Tobirama > Itachi

Kisame > Gengetsu

 

[Zexion~]

Team Akatsuki win this

Only problem at all is Mu.

Who is taken care of via Itachi and Obito

Kisame can hold off the others till its done.

Assuming there is no Edo for Tobirama

 

[Transcendence]

Team Akatsuki win.

 

[Beans2]

Team Akatsuki win.

How do they win?

 

[Haizaki]

Akatsuki wins med diff.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yeah, Mū has a better chance than Obito to win in a 1v1 considering he can counter Kamui rather effectively.

Mū isn't getting caught in the water dome, but nice try.

Pretty sure he's talking about 1MS Tobi.

Mu has a counter to Kamui? Even if he did Juubi size katon turns him to ash he isn't getting outside of the Aoe. ​

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Mu has a counter to Kamui? Even if he did Juubi size katon turns him to ash he isn't getting outside of the Aoe. ​

Yeah he does, he can split himself.

I don't know how Obito can attack something he can't see.