2nd hokage vs itach

[Uchiha Madara.]

they are both geniuses but I think itachi could pull it off

 

[Mygenjutsu]

itachi with high dif.

 

[takiscy]

i dont remember who said it but someone said that hashirama and tobirama were the last 2superhumans, due to itachis reduced stamina the 2nds s/t and water jutsus and his unimaginable chakra i say this goes to tobirama(even tho am itachis fun)

 

[Marios]

Tobirama fought the strongest Uchiha during their prime. And he survived!
I'm sure he knows to counter them better than anyone else!

Itachi on the other hand is a swallow ***** who let Sasuke the maniac survive.
And btw, it was Shisui's Sharingan which broke the ET by accident.

 

[Necron]

lol yeah he doesn't know the 2nd invented the edo

yeah, that was hilarious as hell -_-

People that don't think about anime 24/7 tend to forget things that were mentioned like 3 years ago, and were just a minor refearance... U_U

...and for the record, what I meant was they were both edos, at some point in their lifes... U_U

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

itachi will never be able to seall all edos and tobirama himself with susano which makes you blind and in terrible pain when in use. see sasuke. meanwhile tobirama teleports around with s/t jutsu. plus hes a sensor and can detect numbers and location by touching the ground.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Tobirama = Izuna
Itachi > Izuna
Thus, Itachi > Tobirama.

I can't be sure though. Tobirama isn't a very important character, he is just a high ranking senju.

Lol why do you talk as if you are so certain? And dont use that DBZ logic round here.

Bolded: Lol really? This "not very important" character created Edo tensei technique, if it wasnt for him Kabuto would be hiding inside a hole somewhere. If it wasnt for him, the Uchiha clan police force would have never existed and possibly Itachi wouldnt have been conceived? . U_U

 

[Vexorian]

Tobirama can use bringer of darkness technique that will render sharingan useless.

Tobirama's knowledge > itachi's knowledge
Tobirama looks so beast... like a monkey king O.O

So tobirama have this one.

Sadly, that was only in the anime. Hashirama is the one who used that tech in the manga

 

[Owarij]

Don't talk nonsense Mister. Itachi by himself said, you need to have the Sharingan to break through the powerful Tsukuyomi - without the Sharingan you can't handle it. Means, that the Sharingan helps you to get out of it. And as I said already, noticing a Genjutsu does not mean that you can break through it. Naruto noticed Itachis Genjutsu but wasn't able to break through it, Orochimaru noticed it too but wasn't able to get out of it. Same time Sasuke didn't only noticed Itachis Genjutsu, he ended it always. Same time Itachi threw Kurenais Genjutsu back to herself. The ability is see through, not see it. A lot of people can see or notice an illusion, but the Sharingan sees through. Tsukuyomi is the best example, where you need to have the Sharingan. And the bringer of darkness is an illusion too. It manipulates your senses so that you can't perceive light. It's just an illusion, an illusion the Sharingan sees through.

And to end this discussion, Itachi Uchiha won't loose a Genjutsu battle against a non Uchiha U_U.

god what are you talking about? get your facts straight.. ITACHI SAID you need uchiha BLOOD to break tsukyomi... and thats tsukyomi only....... With uchiha blood you can resist it and break it... that is only for the mangekyou jutsu called tsukyomi...nothing else..... sharingan alone can't do anything to tsukyomi.....did you see kakashi?


**** man read the manga

 

[johnny335704]

Ofcourse Tobirama Senju is the clear winner.....

 

[8thHokage]

itachi, we havent seen shit on tobirama... dumb thread

 

[Blaze Release]

Ive never been interested in this thread because we have barely seen anything from tobirama but also we havent truly seen itachi's full potential to judge. Nobody has yet been able to come up with a good enough argument for tobirama. Who knows when i feel like it, ill bless you guys U_U

 

[Okumura Rin]

Itachi. We haven't seen enough of Tobirama to judge him yet.
I hope Kishi will expand on the 1st and 2nd hokages after the war ends or something like that. Or even the 3rd and 4th for that matter, we don't know much about the Hokages pasts besides the 4th really.

 

[rashida chan]

we can't compare coz we've never seen tobirama fighting or itachi fighting with all of his power

 

[Raito]

god what are you talking about? get your facts straight.. ITACHI SAID you need uchiha BLOOD to break tsukyomi... and thats tsukyomi only....... With uchiha blood you can resist it and break it... that is only for the mangekyou jutsu called tsukyomi...nothing else..... sharingan alone can't do anything to tsukyomi.....did you see kakashi?


**** man read the manga

He said, only a Sharinganuser with the same blood can break through it U_U.

 

[Owarij]

He said, only a Sharinganuser with the same blood can break through it U_U.

............:flaw:

 

[Raito]

............:flaw:

Fool, why Kakashi thought that he could stand before Tsukuyomi with his Sharingan? Because Sharingan sees "through" illusions but for Tsukuyomi it wasn't the only condition.

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What did Itachi said, princess?

 

[Splendid Ninja]

Ive never been interested in this thread because we have barely seen anything from tobirama but also we havent truly seen itachi's full potential to judge. Nobody has yet been able to come up with a good enough argument for tobirama. Who knows when i feel like it, ill bless you guys U_U

i agree

 

[kendell]

I would have to say itachi but its hard to call because little is known about the second accept for when oro use him and he wasn't that good the third beat him and the second

 

[Gricay]

2nd has a Space-Time Ninjutsu.