2012 The end of the world.

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Well, here's to hoping it doesn't.

If it does, I hope we get transported and reborn to another dimension - maybe one where everyone has cool powers. xd
 

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well no aliens will come to us in 2012 . My personal opinion is that the most FAT child on earth will fart .... then we all will make BIG BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMM .
By the way : I dont suffer from madness , im enjoying it every moment .
 

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what i find funny is that there sites all over the net selling stuff for after the great destruction of this new end of the world, for surviver's, which would be almost none O_O.
whats the point of buying that stuff if you believe that the world is going to end anyway

ohh well im gonna enjoy mocking them the day after
 

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I dont know i watch this stuff on the history channel and i mean it could happen. I just hope it happens 2112 because ill be dead by then and have lived a full furfilling life:"D
 

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I have heard of a spiritual perspective, geographical perspective but never such a weird scienific perspective.
I honestly think its ridiculous. It doesn't make sense to me, we thats just me though
 

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If aliens are real.And like us they look for other smart living aliens(for them we are) than why would they look for us,only to destroy us.That is stupid
 

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Let's just break this down a little bit. VERY FEW planets have the right conditions to support life of any kind. Planets have to be solid, they have to be water, they have to be neither too far nor too close to their sun, their sun has to be the right kind of star, they have to be the right size, their atmospheres have to be composed of the right gases, etc. So VERY few planets are even CAPABLE of supporting life. Even FEWER planets would be fortunate enough to have life spring up on them. And still even FEWER planets would be home to INTELLIGENT life, let alone life that's more intelligent than we are.

So maybe that leaves a few dozen planets that are home to lifeforms more intelligent than we are.

The nearest solar system (not even the nearest galaxy) is more than 4 light years away. Just imagine how far away a planet with life more intelligent than us would be. The chances of it being within a reachable distance are utterly ridiculous. And even IF there existed some sort of incredibly advanced civilization that could traverse hundreds of thousands of light years in a matter of seconds, why would they come to Earth? What use would our planet, a planet of primitive, stupid, smelly flesh sacks, be to them?

The way I see it, there's such an infinitely small chance of us encountering intelligent life (let alone life more intelligent than we are) that it's best to simply disregard the chance entirely.

I am sure that we will not communicate with aliens of significant intelligence for hundreds of thousands of years at the very least - if not, millions. Nevertheless, I do believe that life on the cellular level does exist in many places in the universe - possibly in our own solar system. One of Saturn's moons, Europa, shows signs of liquid water beneath its surface. That, in my opinion, is our best bet for finding extraterrestrial life, if only on the cellular level.
 

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Let's just break this down a little bit. VERY FEW planets have the right conditions to support life of any kind. Planets have to be solid, they have to be water, they have to be neither too far nor too close to their sun, their sun has to be the right kind of star, they have to be the right size, their atmospheres have to be composed of the right gases, etc. So VERY few planets are even CAPABLE of supporting life. Even FEWER planets would be fortunate enough to have life spring up on them. And still even FEWER planets would be home to INTELLIGENT life, let alone life that's more intelligent than we are.

So maybe that leaves a few dozen planets that are home to lifeforms more intelligent than we are.

The nearest solar system (not even the nearest galaxy) is more than 4 light years away. Just imagine how far away a planet with life more intelligent than us would be. The chances of it being within a reachable distance are utterly ridiculous. And even IF there existed some sort of incredibly advanced civilization that could traverse hundreds of thousands of light years in a matter of seconds, why would they come to Earth? What use would our planet, a planet of primitive, stupid, smelly flesh sacks, be to them?

The way I see it, there's such an infinitely small chance of us encountering intelligent life (let alone life more intelligent than we are) that it's best to simply disregard the chance entirely.

I am sure that we will not communicate with aliens of significant intelligence for hundreds of thousands of years at the very least - if not, millions. Nevertheless, I do believe that life on the cellular level does exist in many places in the universe - possibly in our own solar system. One of Saturn's moons, Europa, shows signs of liquid water beneath its surface. That, in my opinion, is our best bet for finding extraterrestrial life, if only on the cellular level.

All of the conditions you listed are conditions for HUMAN life. We have no idea what kind of life can be supported under different conditions. Our planet had certain conditions, so organisms evolved to fit those conditions. If life sprang up on a planet without water, that was gaseous, was close to the sun, or was very far from the sun, they could adapt to those conditions. We've seen organisms on our own planet adapt to conditions that from out view are far from "earth" like conditions.



Personally I think its a mathematical certainty that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe. The sheer number of planets, solar systems, stars and galaxies is almost incomprehensible. In our own solar system of 8 (sorry pluto) planets, we have 2 that we think were capable and possibly did once hold life. Earth does, Mars might have. Then we have moons such as Europa that could also have life. And this is just in our own solar system!

Heres an estimation on the number of planets in the Universe:



MILLIONS of BILLIONS of planets likely to be in the universe. And in our tiny solar system of 8, we have 2 that fit OUR model of a life sustaining environment. 2/8. Now spread those odds across millions of billions of planets and it just makes mathematical sense that we're not the only beings who have contemplated this question.

As for them visiting us, I agree with you. We're intelligent beings (sort of) and we haven't even been capable of reaching Mars. Thats our neighboring planet! So for a civilization to reach us they would need to be THOUSANDS of times more advanced than us. And then they would need a reason to do so. And if they had a reason, why not try to engage us in something? Trade? Diplomacy? War? It just makes no sense for them to creep around in the shadows when they're much more advanced than us.
 
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