2 questions regarding Kenpachi and Aizen

[K3npachi]

1st question: Do you think Kenpachi is already in shikai mode all along just that he hasn't gain access to the abilities since he doesn't know his zanpakuto's name? Look:

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Kenpachi didn't seal his zanpakuto. Does that mean his sword is already in shikai?

2nd question: In the latest bleach manga, who is Aizen now? Is he a shinigami still? Or he has both shinigami and hollow powers now? Or he has become a new type of Arrancar? What do you guys think?

EDIT: Oh and also, if you guys didn't notice, Kenpachi is NEVER around where Aizen is. Is this a hint?

 

['-Hellknight-']

1st question: Do you think Kenpachi is already in shikai mode all along just that he hasn't gain access to the abilities since he doesn't know his zanpakuto's name? Look:

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Kenpachi didn't seal his zanpakuto. Does that mean his sword is already in shikai?

2nd question: In the latest bleach manga, who is Aizen now? Is he a shinigami still? Or he has both shinigami and hollow powers now? Or he has become a new type of Arrancar? What do you guys think?

you gonna have to read the manga to find out how does aizen look like now. and now he is not using hollow powers

 

[K3npachi]

you gonna have to read the manga to find out how does aizen look like now. and now he is not using hollow powers

I already did... Aizen is using the hougyoku's power right? I think he has become a new type of something that I can't think of...

 

['-Hellknight-']

I already did... Aizen is using the hougyoku's power right? I think he has become a new type of something that I can't think of...

the same as ichigo....

 

[K3npachi]

the same as ichigo....

You said Aizen isn't using hollow powers, so how could he be a Vizard like Ichigo?

 

[niblack89]

Well Kenny's shouldn't have released any seals off his sword if so what would be the purpose in learning Bankai and his sword isn't any different from any regular sword. Even if he released his shekai he would get really really strong. If I notice anything when a shinigami releases their sword they don't get a huge boost in retsu but a special ability. Except Ichigo no one knows his special ability.

About Aizen it was stated something about that train thing being made of truth. Maybe Aizen's retsu is made of that and that's why no retsu shinigami or hallow could touch him now. Ichigo recognizes his powers because he has the same. They look extremely similar in that when Ichigonator lost its mask he looked like what Aizen does now. Also none of Uliquorra's attacks worked on him even that super lance he used.

Lastly this just struck me but Ulquiorra's final release out of all the espada his eyes were the only resurrection to actually gain hallow eyes like Ichigo and Aizen. I think he was the first Arrancar to almost achieve what Aizen and Ichigo are. He is the most complete Arrancar ever made.

 

[K3npachi]

Well Kenny's shouldn't have released any seals off his sword if so what would be the purpose in learning Bankai and his sword isn't any different from any regular sword. Even if he released his shekai he would get really really strong. If I notice anything when a shinigami releases their sword they don't get a huge boost in retsu but a special ability. Except Ichigo no one knows his special ability.

About Aizen it was stated something about that train thing being made of truth. Maybe Aizen's retsu is made of that and that's why no retsu shinigami or hallow could touch him now. Ichigo recognizes his powers because he has the same. They look extremely similar in that when Ichigonator lost its mask he looked like what Aizen does now. Also none of Uliquorra's attacks worked on him even that super lance he used.

Lastly this just struck me but Ulquiorra's final release out of all the espada his eyes were the only resurrection to actually gain hallow eyes like Ichigo and Aizen. I think he was the first Arrancar to almost achieve what Aizen and Ichigo are. He is the most complete Arrancar ever made.

No comment for your first paragraph.

Second paragraph: Now that you said it, Ichigo and Aizen have the same powers. Remember when Ichigo transformed into a super hollow against Ulquiorra, no one sensed how powerful Ichigo's reiatsu actually was, not even Ulquiorra. It's the same with Aizen, when he went into that cocoon state, Isshin said that he couldn't sense Aizen's reiatsu anymore. This shows Ichigo is on Aizen's level, just that Aizen has more experience than him. BTW, the hougyoku also made Aizen stronger right?

Third paragraph: So in summary, your saying that Ulquiorra should be the strongest espada instead of Starrk?

 

[niblack89]

No comment for your first paragraph.

Second paragraph: Now that you said it, Ichigo and Aizen have the same powers. Remember when Ichigo transformed into a super hollow against Ulquiorra, no one sensed how powerful Ichigo's reiatsu actually was, not even Ulquiorra. It's the same with Aizen, when he went into that cocoon state, Isshin said that he couldn't sense Aizen's reiatsu anymore. This shows Ichigo is on Aizen's level, just that Aizen has more experience than him. BTW, the hougyoku also made Aizen stronger right?

Third paragraph: So in summary, your saying that Ulquiorra should be the strongest espada instead of Starrk?

What wrong with the 1st Paragraph

last paragraph he maybe stronger than Stark all Stark did was throw ceros and cero wolves while Ulquiorra threw a lance that caused a sand title wave and a cero as powerful as Ichigonator. Stark didn't release around as much power as Ulquiorra but I can't really tell especially with that fight battle powers were confusing. Ulquiorra isn't the strongest but most complete seeing as he looks totally different from all the other espadas and has a second release.

 

[Typhon]

Aizen is unlike any character as of now. Hes not the same as Ichigo, hes progressed past the realm of reiatsu. This is why I think Isshin felt so weird while fighting him and also why he was able to destroy the train in the middle world. Gin stated that the train was didn't exist in the realm of reiatsu but rather in truth and that no matter how strong Aizen had become there was nothing he could do against it. Aizen then destroyed it with ease, signifying his ascension to the realm of truth.

 

[K3npachi]

@niblack89: there's nothing wrong with the first paragraph, I just understood what you mean. Ulquiorra should be 1st actually because he did mention that no one, including Aizen, knew about his second release. Thus in summary, when he is in first release, hes 4th. With his second release, he could be the strongest espada.

I can't imagine Starrk being first. He got destroyed by Shunsui who ONLY used his shikai. Ichigo had to go super hollow to win the 4th espada. The gap between the 4th and the 1st is huge so are you saying that Shunsui in shikai is WAY stronger than Ichigo's super hollow form?

@Bahamut: So the only way to defeat Aizen is for someone to have similar powers with him or some other mysterious powers?

 

[apple pie of doom]

Yeah, Stark kinda sucks to me.
I think either Barragan or Ulquiorra deserves to be first.
After all, Ulquiorra is 4th in his 1st realease, no one knows wich rank he could've gotten in his second release.
Also, not sure about Yammi's actual power atm, but he is a big creature, so he must suck.
Building sized enemies are usually boring fighters.

 

[K3npachi]

Yeah, Stark kinda sucks to me.
I think either Barragan or Ulquiorra deserves to be first.
After all, Ulquiorra is 4th in his 1st realease, no one knows wich rank he could've gotten in his second release.
Also, not sure about Yammi's actual power atm, but he is a big creature, so he must suck.
Building sized enemies are usually boring fighters.

It's been like how many chapters and they haven't resume yammy's fight. Aizen has already crushed almost everyone, unless yammy is playing a big role soon.

 

[Grim]

I can't imagine Starrk being first. He got destroyed by Shunsui who ONLY used his shikai. Ichigo had to go super hollow to win the 4th espada. The gap between the 4th and the 1st is huge so are you saying that Shunsui in shikai is WAY stronger than Ichigo's super hollow form?

dont underestimate shunsui, and shunsui is stronger than ichigo, we dont know his bankai yet tho


ps.(ichigo didnt defeat ulquiorra, they could fignt 10 new rounds and nothing wouldnt change he got saved by luck, some how that 2d form ressurected dead ichigo took his body and mind, did huge damage and then dissapeared whule ulquiorra was still alive and had chance to rape them all, but he didnt ....)

 

[K3npachi]

dont underestimate shunsui, and shunsui is stronger than ichigo, we dont know his bankai yet tho


ps.(ichigo didnt defeat ulquiorra, they could fignt 10 new rounds and nothing wouldnt change he got saved by luck, some how that 2d form ressurected dead ichigo took his body and mind, did huge damage and then dissapeared whule ulquiorra was still alive and had chance to rape them all, but he didnt ....)

It's ridiculous to think Shunsui's shikai surpasses Ichigo's so-called final hollow form for many people by 3 levels. Ichigo is already at Aizen's level, the only thing that seperates them both are by experience. I agree Ichigo without his hollow powers would NEVER defeat Ulquiorra, but it's STILL Ichigo's hollow powers, it's just that he can't control it. Example: You can't say It wasn't Nagato fighting when the six paths of pein was fighting Naruto because Nagato used his OWN chakra. Ulquiorra WAS alive even after the hollow form defeated him, but Ulquiorra could not fight any longer as his internal orgrans were destroyed and he was starting to turn into ashes.

 

[Grim]

It's ridiculous to think Shunsui's shikai surpasses Ichigo's so-called final hollow form for many people by 3 levels. Ichigo is already at Aizen's level, the only thing that seperates them both are by experience. Ulquiorra WAS alive even after the hollow form defeated him, but Ulquiorra could not fight any longer as his internal orgrans were destroyed and he was starting to turn into ashes.

killing all 3 of them would take only 3 sek he would do it, since he asked ichigo for final clash, anyways... Ichigo is not on the same lv with Aizen...just what makes you think he is?

 

[K3npachi]

killing all 3 of them would take only 3 sek he would do it, since he asked ichigo for final clash, anyways... Ichigo is not on the same lv with Aizen...just what makes you think he is?

Isshin mentioned only those who are on Aizen's level can understand his power. Ichigo was the only one who could feel Aizen's reiatsu, that could be a hint.

 

[Grim]

Isshin mentioned only those who are on Aizen's level can understand his power. Ichigo was the only one who could feel Aizen's reiatsu, that could be a hint.

he couldnt match with Gin and Ulquiorra in his contious form, i dont understand how coulod he be on Aizens lvl? he maybe can feel his reatsu since his a human,shinigami and hallow... but in power his just a Substitude Shinigami... or your saying he could match vs. Isshin, Urahara and Yoruichi?

maybe later but not rightn now

 

[Pervyy]

he couldnt match with Gin and Ulquiorra in his contious form, i dont understand how coulod he be on Aizens lvl? he maybe can feel his reatsu since his a human,shinigami and hallow... but in power his just a Substitude Shinigami... or your saying he could match vs. Isshin, Urahara and Yoruichi?

maybe later but not rightn now

Has anyone noticed Ichigos power keeps changing?

When he went to save rukia he took out 3 vice captains without his sword and stopped a blade with the power of 1 million zanpaktou... Then he even got his vizard powers, and now hes struggling against gin whos not used his bankai?

I think its weird

 

[Grim]

Has anyone noticed Ichigos power keeps changing?

When he went to save rukia he took out 3 vice captains without his sword and stopped a blade with the power of 1 million zanpaktou... Then he even got his vizard powers, and now hes struggling against gin whos not used his bankai?

I think its weird

i think that logic part of Ichigo is falling apart and so does the whole manga....

 

[K3npachi]

he couldnt match with Gin and Ulquiorra in his contious form, i dont understand how coulod he be on Aizens lvl? he maybe can feel his reatsu since his a human,shinigami and hallow... but in power his just a Substitude Shinigami... or your saying he could match vs. Isshin, Urahara and Yoruichi?

maybe later but not rightn now

Ichigo has lack of experience than Aizen. Ichigo has enough power to match Aizen. He just need to learn how to control it and his emotions. When Ichigo went into the super hollow form against Ulquiorra, no one could sense how powerful Ichigo's reiatsu was. It was the same with Aizen. When Aizen went into that cocoon state, Isshin couldn't sense Aizen's reiatsu, whereas Ichigo could. So what I'm trying to say is:

In terms of power, Ichigo and Aizen are on the same level.
In terms of experience, Aizen has more experience than Ichigo.