1st thread!; generations battle royale (top 2)

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I've always been curious as to whether each generation has surpassed the next so I am putting together a battle royale to see which duo you guys think would win. This is a free for all and I am going put in the stipulation that each team has perfect chemistry with there teammate and each have Intel on each other. Also all of them are in there prime (e.g. kakashi has double kamui, 8 gate guy, etc.).

1st generation:
Hashirama and Madara

2nd:
3rd hokage and Danzo

3rd:
Jiraya and orochimaru

4th:
Minato and fugaku uchiha?
-i know fugaku is older than minato but there is not a lot of information on minatos generation and they both have kids the same age so I'm putting them together.

5th:
Kakashi and might guy

6th:
Itachi and shisui
-I know sushi is slightly older but very close in age

Lastly 7th:
Naruto and sasuke

Personally: I might take some heat for this but I think with 8 gates guy and DM kakashi they could out last the rest of these teams there just a force to be reckoned with.

Runner-up I think Naruto and sasuke take it for obvious reasons. Tell me what you guys think!
 

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Lol are you serious?Are you comparing FuGaku and minatO with feat rich Kakashi and Gai?


Okay so isn't it obvious?Itachi and Shisui'd destroy all these teams, thier Genjutsu Potential ComBo's are fuckinG too HaX.


DM Kakashi rekts Hashirama, Might Guy 8Th GaTe literally demoliSheS MaDaRa.

Hiruzen(featless), 3rd Raikage(kind of featless') so there aren'T doing much, though, an argument' could be MaDe.
 
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Lol are you serious?Are you comparing FuGaku and minatO with feat rich Kakashi and Gai?


Okay so isn't it obvious?Itachi and Shisui'd destroy all these teams, thier Genjutsu Potential ComBo's are fuckinG too HaX.
Comparing them no, I am putting the top two of each generation against each other. clearly some of these teams aren't stacked as the rest aka: Jiraya and oro as well as Hiruzen and Danzo. But yeah I think minato and fugaku take the two teams i mentioned above.
 

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Comparing them no, I am putting the top two of each generation against each other. clearly some of these teams aren't stacked as the rest aka: Jiraya and oro as well as Hiruzen and Danzo. But yeah I think minato and fugaku take the two teams i mentioned above.
But your thread proves that next generation doesn't always surpass the next.Shisui and Itachi could rekt Rinnegan Sasuke and RSM NaruTo.
 

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If all in prime then: Naruto/Sasuke>=Madara/Hashirama(mostly bcoz of Madara)>Kakashi/Gai>Minato(with Kurama)>Itachi/Shisui>3rd/Danzo>=Orochimaru/Jiraiya (not counting edo tensei) ,in my opinion.
 

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If all in prime then: Naruto/Sasuke>=Madara/Hashirama(mostly bcoz of Madara)>Kakashi/Gai>Minato(with Kurama)>Itachi/Shisui>3rd/Danzo>=Orochimaru/Jiraiya (not counting edo tensei) ,in my opinion.
I like your list, but don't you think Minato is placed a bit too high?

His war arc feats are dull as hell.Nothing new about him, he infact failed his pretentious hype.

EMS Sasuke was faster than BM Minato by feats.
 

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I like your list, but don't you think Minato is placed a bit too high?

His war arc feats are dull as hell.Nothing new about him, he infact failed his pretentious hype.

EMS Sasuke was faster than BM Minato by feats.
I think biju damas combined with his ftg makes him dangerous, because biju damas gives him fire power and he can avoid most attacks aimed at him with ftg. He can also keep distance so i cant see him get genjutsued.
EMS Sasuke has better precog but not faster, and it has nothing to do with my list anyway as EMS Sasuke beats everyone under Minato too.
 

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The is the order of the generations
7th
huge gap
1st
5th
huge gap
6th
4th
2nd
3rd

Naruro and Sasuke are far above the rest. They shouldn’t even be in this
 

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I think biju damas combined with his ftg makes him dangerous, because biju damas gives him fire power and he can avoid most attacks aimed at him with ftg. He can also keep distance so i cant see him get genjutsued.
EMS Sasuke has better precog but not faster, and it has nothing to do with my list anyway as EMS Sasuke beats everyone under Minato too.
EMS Sasuke saved NarutO before Minato could activate his Hiraishin.

His HiraishiN>>>>>his shunshin.

FtG needs marking, he cannot simply travel anywhere he wants.

Which brings to point: can he mark it on some as fast as ItaChi and Shisui?
Shisui= Best Teleportation Technique user.
Itachi=Fastest by foot spEed feat.

Minato also needs to appear and react when he initiates FTg which is it's primary weakness; he cannot instantly attack as fast as he arrives.
Meaning his assault'll fail if his opponent>>>>him, in ReflExes.

It's nothing difficult for two Mangekyou Sharingan users with enhanced perCeption and ItaChi by himself has a underrated fEat which suggestS he easily react's and dodgE surprise Bijuu DaMa.

Perceiving FtG is fairly easy, A percieved where he's coming from: not to mention he's someone without a enhanCed oculAr technique.

Bee reacted' to BaSe minaTo twice: with tail and swOrd.

EMS Sasuke tier + above'd zero difficulty evadiNg + assaulting' him severely.

ItaChi's also been stated' to not' needing Eye cOntant for iLLusiOns, and capaBle of cOntrolling SensOry diviSiOn, from long RanGe.

Meaning, Minato' sensing + FtG is futile.
 

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EMS Sasuke saved NarutO before Minato could activate his Hiraishin.

His HiraishiN>>>>>his shunshin.

FtG needs marking, he cannot simply travel anywhere he wants.

Which brings to point: can he mark it on some as fast as ItaChi and Shisui?
Shisui= Best Teleportation Technique user.
Itachi=Fastest by foot spEed feat.

Minato also needs to appear and react when he initiates FTg which is it's primary weakness; he cannot instantly attack as fast as he arrives.
Meaning his assault'll fail if his opponent>>>>him, in ReflExes.

It's nothing difficult for two Mangekyou Sharingan users with enhanced perCeption and ItaChi by himself has a underrated fEat which suggestS he easily react's and dodgE surprise Bijuu DaMa.

Perceiving FtG is fairly easy, A percieved where he's coming from: not to mention he's someone without a enhanCed oculAr technique.

Bee reacted' to BaSe minaTo twice: with tail and swOrd.

EMS Sasuke tier + above'd zero difficulty evadiNg + assaulting' him severely.

ItaChi's also been stated' to not' needing Eye cOntant for iLLusiOns, and capaBle of cOntrolling SensOry diviSiOn, from long RanGe.

Meaning, Minato' sensing + FtG is futile.
Minato couldn't activate Hiraishin because the markings disappeared from Obito. And EMS Sasuke has nothing to do here, stop mention him.

Noone ever said Shisue has the best teleport technique.
Itachis' and Shisui's reflexes don't even surpasses Minato's, let alone them being much better.

Dodging bijudama is pointless if it will still explode next to them, they die. And if they camp in Susano, they can't dodge a thing.

Bee could interfere with his biju tail because Minato had to gain a large momentum before attack Ay with his kunai in order to hurt him which gave Bee time enough. On the next occassion, Minato just teleported behind Bee but didnt even move so there was nothing to react to. If Minato would have tried stab him instantly, you would have a point but you re pointless now.

Itachi/Shisui isnt on EMS Sasuke's tier, let alone above him..stop mention him.

Kurama can break Minato free from genjutsu except tsuko, and i don't think that finger genjutsu would actually work on someone above early part 2 Naruto's level which is low.

Nop, Minato explodes them.
 

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Minato couldn't activate Hiraishin because the markings disappeared from Obito. And EMS Sasuke has nothing to do here, stop mention him.

Noone ever said Shisue has the best teleport technique.
Itachis' and Shisui's reflexes don't even surpasses Minato's, let alone them being much better.

Dodging bijudama is pointless if it will still explode next to them, they die. And if they camp in Susano, they can't dodge a thing.

Bee could interfere with his biju tail because Minato had to gain a large momentum before attack Ay with his kunai in order to hurt him which gave Bee time enough. On the next occassion, Minato just teleported behind Bee but didnt even move so there was nothing to react to. If Minato would have tried stab him instantly, you would have a point but you re pointless now.

Itachi/Shisui isnt on EMS Sasuke's tier, let alone above him..stop mention him.

Kurama can break Minato free from genjutsu except tsuko, and i don't think that finger genjutsu would actually work on someone above early part 2 Naruto's level which is low.

Nop, Minato explodes them.
Lol I'll mention them lol.

It's to get an estimation, on how powerful, an individual is, lol.

You didn't get the first point, Minato indeed couldn't finish reacting to his technique's activation, which is why Sasuke with SusanoO which decreases mobility, save Naruto before him, lol.

I'll keep mentioning these feats, because they're relevant lol.

Bijuu dama could be dodged, with greater reflexes, and speed which'll futilify, Minato's said attack.

Shisui's name is called 'The Teleporter' because of mastery over, Body Flicker Technique. He was the best body flicker user and one of the three strongest Uchihas, after Fugaku and Itachi, so we can estimate the fact he'll dodge Bijuu Dama, with enhanced perception and reflexes.

Bee reacted to FTG twice, a fact, because, a thing such as 'momentum' grabbing, is nonexistent in the manga, Kishimoto ignores that law of Physics, lol, otherwise we could use the same excuse for everyone. Reaction is reaction, speed is speed, reflex is reflex, no excuses, whatsover.

Minato was about to stab him with the Kunai; yet he could react well enough to place his knife, just before he placed it in his head, and, don't tell he already kept it there, which is a useless excuse, because Minato was observing Bee from a far the time he planned, on teleporting to Bee, so Bee kept the knife there after he, teleported.

Plus, an Mangekyou User, cannot be non-perceptive of FTG like trickery, they'll see right through it, and kill Minato when he appears, in marking.

If you've doubts on Itachi's Genjutsu Skill, Shikaku cleared it for you, by saying Itachi's Genjutsu are so potent it cannot be sensed and cannot be broken out of, and he could control multiple individuals out of the sensory division, which'll completely manipulate Minato and make, him do what Itachi wants him to do, also, the Genjutsus are long range, You also ignored what Itachi did in the fight Naruto broke out of, with Sakura's help, he smiled, so he couldn't have had killing intent, or plans to make his Genjutsu potent enough, so you got what I'm saying, it's literally unbreakable, every one of his Genjutsus.

Itachi is tiers above EMS Sasuke and Shisui approximately is around his tier considering his fame and power and he's a Mangekyou, Wielding Uchiha, lol.

Itachi's Speed Feat which'll outsurpass Minato's,
 
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