1st hokage vs 2nd hokage

[Gèckö]

Who cares about that everybody knows there is alot of potholes in the manga this is not really a clear cut battle

lol potholes

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

There's still the naruto vs Sasuke fight, it's possible to be the next arc after the war.

I mean so far naruto has used 13 km clones to turn the shift of the war, has had 3 rounds with tobi, and last we saw he was completely exhausted while tobi was not scratched.

So to have the nauto vs sasuke fight right after tobi is defeated (if he is defeated) is unlikely.

A lot of people thought that naruto defeating Pain was going to be the end, with sasuke attacking Konoha and it was delayed.



Yep, but that's just my opinion for we don't know what really happened in the fight.

After seeing that Stabilized perfect susano'o I refuse to believe hashirama was able to defeat that AND kurama? gtfo.

Exactly its hard to believe with all the wood in the world he beat perfect susanno and crazy fire release and whatever else he has up his sleeve

 

[choft]

U dont know that it didnt he jus compared it to his but said it was betrer something similar to what minato did with tobirama he jus simply said that he contained a tech if it wsnt worth mentioning kishi wouldnt have done so

Nagato compared it to Chibaku Tensei, and it's really not hard to see why. On the other hand, Minato just said that Tobirama has S/T ninjutsu, but he said nothing about what it's like. I've got no clue how Tobirama's S/T ninjutsu works. Can you show me something in the manga which shows how it works?

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

Nagato compared it to Chibaku Tensei, and it's really not hard to see why. On the other hand, Minato just said that Tobirama has S/T ninjutsu, but he said nothing about what it's like. I've got no clue how Tobirama's S/T ninjutsu works. Can you show me something in the manga which shows how it works?

So just how do you think his s/t works it had to be somewhat effective to be mentioned

 

[choft]

So just how do you think his s/t works it had to be somewhat effective to be mentioned

I told you, I don't know. It might be effective against fodder ninjas or semi - tough ninjas, but it might be crap against the top ninjas. Until I see something which shows how it works, I'm not going to assume that it's OP.

 

[Frikid]

Tobirama .

HE will spawn Edo madara and other OP ninjas of his time.
He have S/T
He is best water ninjutsu user.

but
hashi is said to be best shinobi ever by kabuto...

i odn't know man , but it would be epic battle.

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

I told you, I don't know. It might be effective against fodder ninjas or semi - tough ninjas, but it might be crap against the top ninjas. Until I see something which shows how it works, I'm not going to assume that it's OP.

Ok and how about edo bring madara back and hou get a victory

 

[choft]

Ok and how about edo bring madara back and hou get a victory

If he can, he never mastered Edo Tensei.

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

Now how do u figure that he created the tech and just threw it to the side you dont know how well his tech worked

 

[Cerox0]

How will this be connected with hyping up Tobirama though?

He even tried a little by saying how Tobirama went out like a beast against the 20 Man Kinkaku squad, + gave him S/T Ninjutsu, Edo Tensei (imperfect) and as we've seen he can do suiton with 1 seal. Plus in the anime he used B.O.D and since he is both a senju and hashirama's brother, it's not farfetched he could use it too. (Just a theory).

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

If he can, he never mastered Edo Tensei.

Yea do you realky think that a senju wouldnt be able control many edos

 

[choft]

Yea do you realky think that a senju wouldnt be able control many edos

If he had mastered it like Kabuto did, then yes. But he didn't. Also, Tobirama would not have had access to Edo Madara. Kabuto really went on a manhunt to find the DNA of powerful shinobi. Tobirama hated the technique and made it a Kinjutsu. I doubt he went around looking for their DNA>.

He even tried a little by saying how Tobirama went out like a beast against the 20 Man Kinkaku squad, + gave him S/T Ninjutsu, Edo Tensei (imperfect) and as we've seen he can do suiton with 1 seal. Plus in the anime he used B.O.D and since he is both a senju and hashirama's brother, it's not farfetched he could use it too. (Just a theory).

Yes he did, but it's not hyped up like Hashirama.
Hashirama was considered the best by Madara, Dan, everyone in his era, Kabuto. Kabuto ought to know who is stronger between the two, considering that both of them were Edos in Orochimaru's control. He never mentioned Tobirama, only Hashirama as having powers similar to the Sage of Six paths.

Hashirama's cells seem to be hax too. (reducing CD of KA, Wood release). I mean, there are about 5 different people who have access to his DNA. (Tobi, Orochimaru, Yamato, Danzo, Madara)

Hashirama could controll tailed beasts too, something I've not heard Tobirama can do.

I don't know, to me Hashirama > Tobirama.

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

Yea but if he put effort into it then it would be different but this is a hypothetical question but like i said the manga has plotholes and a big one is the fact that tobirama has better tech ad seems stronger plus has a bigger upside

 

[choft]

Yea but if he put effort into it then it would be different but this is a hypothetical question but like i said the manga has plotholes and a big one is the fact that tobirama has better tech ad seems stronger plus has a bigger upside

Water is not that great compared to wood imo. Especially from what I've seen in the manga.

You have not seen his S/T ninjutsu in action, so you can't decide whether it's OP or not.

Tobirama didn't put effort into it, so it doesn't really matter. I bet Hashirama could learn Edo too if he put effort into it. He is a senju too, and you said that you think senjus can control multiple edos.

There are no plotholes here.

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

But his specialty is edo s/t and water techs and he s the best at it trapping an opponent in a big heap of water and then using s/t to teleport while your opponent is is alot slower in water is a pretty hard combination to beat

 

[choft]

But his specialty is edo s/t and water techs and he s the best at it trapping an opponent in a big heap of water and then using s/t to teleport while your opponent is is alot slower in water is a pretty hard combination to beat

xD dude, I don't think we're getting anywhere. =P

You think Tobirama > Hasirama, I think the other way around. I think we should just call it a rest. =P

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

Alright deal

 

[Invsblphntm]

Yeah, Hashirama is probably the winner as Tobirama isn't known FO NOTHIN'.
Seriously though, Hashirama has better feats and better hype.

 

[l3m0npl3dg3]

LMFAO

This guy has to be one of the best members on this website.

Yeah, Hashirama is probably the winner as Tobirama isn't known FO NOTHIN'.
Seriously though, Hashirama has better feats and better hype.

Thats all it is is hype

 

[RAMENATOR]

Now open. Sorry for the interruption^^