17 vs goten and trunks

[OG sama]

Man shit like this really just makes me want to drop DBS altogether, theres nothing wrong with 17 getting stronger but putting him exactly on Gokus level? Man what the ****?

Goku has been training and saving the world this whole damn show. Goku is the reason 17 is around right now, but yet you mean to tell me that 17 can fight fodder for years and be exactly on his level? FOH with that shit.

Goku isn't even allowed to surpass Beerus but yet they allow this shit to fly?

This is an ass pull no matter how you swing it.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Man shit like this really just makes me want to drop DBS altogether, theres nothing wrong with 17 getting stronger but putting him exactly on Gokus level? Man what the ****?

Goku has been training and saving the world this whole damn show. Goku is the reason 17 is around right now, but yet you mean to tell me that 17 can fight fodder for years and be exactly on his level? FOH with that shit.

Goku isn't even allowed to surpass Beerus but yet they allow this shit to fly?

This is an ass pull no matter how you swing it.

I'm with you dude

 

[Exaar]

Man shit like this really just makes me want to drop DBS altogether, theres nothing wrong with 17 getting stronger but putting him exactly on Gokus level? Man what the ****?

Goku has been training and saving the world this whole damn show. Goku is the reason 17 is around right now, but yet you mean to tell me that 17 can fight fodder for years and be exactly on his level? FOH with that shit.

Goku isn't even allowed to surpass Beerus but yet they allow this shit to fly?

This is an ass pull no matter how you swing it.

Logically i don't see how goku hasn't surpassed beerus.

a new SSJ God goku pushed beerus to like 70%? i think.

Now goku has another more powerful transformation (blue) and Blue > Red and had alot more training since then and trained by whis, Pushing him quite a bit further than 70% his red for did. Then you add the anime BS of SSJ blue + kaioken, Goku should walk all over beerus if power scaling was a thing in the anime.

I'm with you dude

If you do, I'd suggest you drop the anime and pick up the manga side of it.

While it doesn't come out as often as the anime but the power scaling is faar better and goku actually uses other forms like SSJ God (red) and in my opinion it explains the story in a better way.

 

[Shruikan]

Logically i don't see how goku hasn't surpassed beerus.

a new SSJ God goku pushed beerus to like 70%? i think.

Now goku has another more powerful transformation (blue) and Blue > Red and had alot more training since then and trained by whis, Pushing him quite a bit further than 70% his red for did. Then you add the anime BS of SSJ blue + kaioken, Goku should walk all over beerus if power scaling was a thing in the anime.



If you do, I'd suggest you drop the anime and pick up the manga side of it.

While it doesn't come out as often as the anime but the power scaling is faar better and goku actually uses other forms like SSJ God (red) and in my opinion it explains the story in a better way.

Just like they did with 17 they will push Beerus to a whole new tier of power. Goku uses Blue against Krillin and 17 and just to prevent being sucked out of a space vaccuum. Does that mean Krillin and 17 are somehow even comparable to Beerus?