12 Year Old Blamed For His Own Death for Playing With Toy Gun.

Is The Kid Responsible For His Own Death?

  • Yes. He shouldn't have been playing with a gun in the park.

    Votes: 6 33.3%
  • His bloods are on the hands of the rash Police officers.

    Votes: 5 27.8%
  • I blame his parents for leaving him out there.

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • Indifferent[State opinion in post]

    Votes: 5 27.8%

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Supporters of the family of Tamir Rice are outraged over the city of Cleveland’s claim that the 12-year-old boy was responsible for his own shooting death.

“It’s unbelievable,” Walter Madison, one of the Rice family’s attorneys, told the Washington Post on Monday. “There are a number of things that we in society don’t allow 12-year-olds to do. We don’t allow them to vote, we don’t allow them to drink. In court we don’t try them as adults. They don’t have the capacity to understand the consequences of their actions.”

Benjamin Crump, Rice family co-counsel, told CNN that the family was “just in disbelief.”

Tamir Rice was killed on Nov. 22 outside a recreation center by police officers who were responding to a report of a person with a gun. Rice, who was playing with a pellet gun, was shot within seconds after officers arrived at the scene by rookie cop Timothy Loehmann, who reportedly said he had “no choice” but to defend himself.

The family’s lawsuit, filed in December, alleges police used excessive force and failed to immediately provide first aid.

On Friday, the city’s attorneys responded to a lawsuit filed by the family, saying their claims “were directly and proximately caused by their own acts” and that Tamir caused his own death “by the failure ... to exercise due care to avoid injury.”

Not surprisingly, the city’s seemingly cold response has drawn considerable outrage online.
 
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... This is rather stupid. Cops need to think before just ****ing shooting a goddamn 12 yearold!

However I will say a pellet gun isn't exactly a toy. You can blow the head off of a squirrel with one

Edit: Changed my mind
 
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*sigh*

Edit- Totally didn't see the video.... Why the kid would walk up to the car where an officer is defenseless with a toy gun in his hand is beyond me. Officer isn't really at fault
 
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Do you know who is truly at fault in this? His parents. This was an impossible situation, the police officer had no way of knowing if it was a real gun and no way of knowing the boys intent. The boy took an aggressive posture because he was twelve years old and a twelve years old perception of threat is totally different to an adult, it was a game and he never thought he was going to get shot.

Why the officer used fatal force is beyond me. However, the real villain here, is the parents. This boy was twelve, he shouldn't have had any gun that shoots anything but water, he obviously thought walking around with a gun was clever and has obviously been subjected to media where guns and gangs are popularized such as rap music of the wrong kind, games like GTA and movies, its obvious by how he behaves and poses. On top of that, at 12, he should not even have been out on his own, this is not a safe world for 12 year olds.

My heart goes out to this boy, I feel for the police officer because he shot a child and his guilt is likely more punishment that the law could give him but the parents should take a long, hard look in the mirror and really ask who is to blame instead of trying to cash in.
 
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Do you know who is truly at fault in this? His parents. This was an impossible situation, the police officer had no way of knowing if it was a real gun and no way of knowing the boys intent. The boy took an aggressive posture because he was twelve years old and a twelve years old perception of threat is totally different to an adult, it was a game and he never thought he was going to get shot.

Why the officer used fatal force is beyond me. However, the real villain here, is the parents. This boy was twelve, he shouldn't have had any gun that shoots anything but water, he obviously thought walking around with a gun was clever and has obviously been subjected to media where guns and gangs are popularized such as rap music of the wrong kind, games like GTA and movies, its obvious by how he behaves and poses. On top of that, at 12, he should not even have been out on his own, this is not a safe world for 12 year olds.

My heart goes out to this boy, I feel for the police officer because he shot a child and his guilt is likely more punishment that the law could give him but the parents should take a long, hard look in the mirror and really ask who is to blame instead of trying to cash in.
Lol there's no excuse for shooting a twelve year old dead on the spot who hasn't even done jack.
 

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Watched the video: The boy kind of set himself up to be killed

But the police are still ignorant for killing the kid. Nowadays police kill first ask questions 2nd
 
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Do you know who is truly at fault in this? His parents. This was an impossible situation, the police officer had no way of knowing if it was a real gun and no way of knowing the boys intent. The boy took an aggressive posture because he was twelve years old and a twelve years old perception of threat is totally different to an adult, it was a game and he never thought he was going to get shot.

Why the officer used fatal force is beyond me. However, the real villain here, is the parents. This boy was twelve, he shouldn't have had any gun that shoots anything but water, he obviously thought walking around with a gun was clever and has obviously been subjected to media where guns and gangs are popularized such as rap music of the wrong kind, games like GTA and movies, its obvious by how he behaves and poses. On top of that, at 12, he should not even have been out on his own, this is not a safe world for 12 year olds.

My heart goes out to this boy, I feel for the police officer because he shot a child and his guilt is likely more punishment that the law could give him but the parents should take a long, hard look in the mirror and really ask who is to blame instead of trying to cash in.
@bold they should have used a tazer

@underlined that is kinda bullshit
 

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Lol there's no excuse for shooting a twelve year old dead on the spot who hasn't even done jack.
I see so if you had a gun to protect your and other peoples lives and a kid came at you with a gun aggressively mind you...what would you do?

The fact that the majority would say "find another way kids may never be harmed erhmagod" undoubtedly proves how truly pathetic humans have become....... mongrels
 

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Lol there's no excuse for shooting a twelve year old dead on the spot who hasn't even done jack.
I don't know about you, but I definitely wouldn't take my chances with someone coming in your direction with a gun in their hands, and don't give the 12 yo excuses, because I've seen a lot of kids younger than him robbing people on the streets, and even walking around holding rifles in poor neighborhoods (or favelas).

They don’t have the capacity to understand the consequences of their actions.”
I'm pretty sure that when I was 12, I knew better than to walk towards a police car with a gun in my hands that looks real (at least from that distance).
 

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There is no excuse for killing a 12 year old child for playing with a toy gun which many of us adults have tried when we were older. They literally didn't give him anytime and put a bullet in his body. Now the city has the nerve to say he caused his death.
 

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Tazers are far too slow to go up against a gun especially when said kid is already walking towards you
If your first instinct is to shoot a 12year old kid because you think he might pose a danger without any real solid proof then you shouldn't be a police officer. Another black live lost.
 
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Sadly its not. Children imprint, they learn to behave by what they see, granted I could have worded it better, but its the truth, a child who watches Disney princesses will at ten like pink dresses and ponies, a child who watches pop divas will behave like them. A boy who plays GTA and music videos where the people act like criminals and make it look cool will behave that way, just like how kids watching Hulk Hogan pretend to be like him, or like how I run around with a scarf on my head pretending to be Maid Marion because I just watch Robin Hood when I was a kid.

What he should have done was his job by acting calmly and rationally, he was obviously too timid and cowardly for the job
? So just playing? Yes. Actually doing something beyond that? No.
 

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? So just playing? Yes. Actually doing something beyond that? No.
Lol there's no excuse for shooting a twelve year old dead on the spot who hasn't even done jack.
Usually I would agree and to an extent I do agree. Should he have been punished by law? Possibly, was this manslaughter, possibly. Of course this is a child so I want to throw every book available at him.

However this happened because a child was outside, unsupervised with a weapon, not a serious weapon but one that could, if it can blow the head off a squirrel, kill a small child. The officer, a rookie, arrived on the scene, the boy took an aggressive stance, pointing the gun at him, even as the officer moved away from the car. The boy thought it was a game because he was a baby and didn't understand the threat, people seem to be under the delusion recently that children think like adults, they don't. The officer panicked and fired.

If the boy had not been allowed to have a weapon and had not been unsupervised, if he did not know how to act like a little gang member, then none of this would have happened. Its not the boys fault, its partially the police officers fault and is very much the parents fault, the only innocent here was the boy.

The reason why the officer shot to kill escapes me, they shouldn't put guns in the hands of men who obviously do not have the mental capacity to use them.

@bold they should have used a tazer

@underlined that is kinda bullshit
Sadly its not. Children imprint, they learn to behave by what they see, granted I could have worded it better, but its the truth, a child who watches Disney princesses will at ten like pink dresses and ponies, a child who watches pop divas will behave like them. A boy who plays GTA and music videos where the people act like criminals and make it look cool will behave that way, just like how kids watching Hulk Hogan pretend to be like him, or like how I run around with a scarf on my head pretending to be Maid Marion because I just watch Robin Hood when I was a kid.

What he should have done was his job by acting calmly and rationally, he was obviously too timid and cowardly for the job

This is more a tragedy than a crime, this police officer was not suited to the job and it ended in disaster

? So just playing? Yes. Actually doing something beyond that? No.
Yes, playing, I don't think for a second that he would have hurt anyone, the trouble is because he had been influenced by a certain thing, he thought it was cool to act that way, as a child he didn't understand what the consequences might be, it was just a game to him, he should not, at twelve even know how to pose or act like that, a gun at that age should be an alien thing.

The thing is, its not the music, game or movies fault, it wasn't made for kids, it was made for adults, few of who imprint, its the parents fault for allowing there child to see these things
 
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I see so if you had a gun to protect your and other peoples lives and a kid came at you with a gun aggressively mind you...what would you do?

The fact that the majority would say "find another way kids may never be harmed erhmagod" undoubtedly proves how truly pathetic humans have become....... mongrels
''aggressively''? What are you saying ?
 

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If your first instinct is to shoot a 12year old kid because you think he might pose a danger without any real solid proof then you shouldn't be a police officer. Another black live lost.
What? Its basic human nature to defend your life, cop or not. If you look out your window and see someone regardless of age coming up on you with a "gun" you're going to defend your life first. Only thing this cop could do was pull his gun, which he'd probably already been holding as the report said that someone was carrying a gun.
Kid was uneducated and parents were idiots. They deserve no pity
 
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