[Theory] 10th October saga and Kakashi becoming Jounin

[The Sach]

As revealed in latest chapter,Rin died on 10th of October,

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The same day, Naruto born,

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Now we all know Kakashi was 26-27 years old at the during part-1, so in short he was 14-15 year old when Naruto born (Naruto was 12-13 year old in Part-1, do math)..Kakashi became Chunnin when he was 6 years younger than Naruto, in short when he was 6-7 year old

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Now,in many threads including in

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it is said that Kakashi promoted to Jounin 13 years before the series started i.e. when he was 13-14 years old, that means there was only one year gap between Kakashi gaiden and nine tails attack on Konoha but Rin died in between this period (Minato was alive and Obito was supposedly dead, and there can't be two October 10's), so in short Kakashi didn't become Jounin at the age of 13-14, now let's say he was 12-13 when he became Jounin,(because we are not exact as we arenot taking birthdays into consideration) that means Rin died when he(Kakashi) was 13-14 year old and on 10th of October..
Now 10th October when Rin died was

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, 10th October when Naruto born was also

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, in short we had two full moons in two successive years which is wrong..How?? One year=365 days,365/29.5(minimum difference between two full moons=29.5 days)=12.378(in short fraction,which proves there is remainder and hence no full moon), but it is wrong, as Kishi drew full moon in both the panels, so Kakashi didn't become Jounin at the age of 12-13.(only thing I didn't calculate, or derived from timeline)
So he became Jounin 3 years before Rin's death i.e. when he was 10 years old, why 3 years, because 365*3/29.5=37.12(also fraction but with less remainder so can be considered accurate, because of leap year thing, take 365+366+365, it will be accurate) it also proves Kakashi's physical change(growth)->
10 year old Kakashi->

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14-15 year old Kakashi->

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-Conclusion-​

Kakashi became jounin at the age of around 10 and not when he was 13 years old..

 

[Fair Warning]

You can't use real logic in Naruto.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Makes sense. Kakashi became chuunin at 6.

 

[Moe22]

You can't use real logic in Naruto.

I'm afraid he's right OP. Tell me how Itachi looks 17 or 18 when he's mid 20's. And How Tsunade is really a old fart disguised as 20 year old, but really a 50 year old. I mean, there is a reason for the last one but still XD

 

[Makz]

Why would Team Minato give Kakashi presents if he graduated as Jounin 3 years before the gaiden? Makes no sense. Also, if Obito could grow a lot, why not Kakashi as well?

 

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nice theory bro.!

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[Mr Hiru]

Obito is between two and four years older than Kakashi, people should know this.

 

[The Sach]

You can't use real logic in Naruto.

Till certain level you can, and forget about looks think about maths I used there...

I'm afraid he's right OP. Tell me how Itachi looks 17 or 18 when he's mid 20's. And How Tsunade is really a old fart disguised as 20 year old, but really a 50 year old. I mean, there is a reason for the last one but still XD

Itachi looks 17 or 18 because Kishi wanted him to look like that, forget about looks focus on Maths, in case of Tsunade she disguised as 20 years old, because she is a medical nin,and possibly uses transformation technique to look younger ,you know why...

Why would Team Minato give Kakashi presents if he graduated as Jounin 3 years before the gaiden? Makes no sense. Also, if Obito could grow a lot, why not Kakashi as well?

You didn't understand what I said out there I said Kakashi became Jounin at the age of 10 during Kakashi guiden, he was 14-15 years old when Kyuubi attacked Konoha..

 

[Aominecchi]

Dude i have to give you credit for all of those calculations but the truth is that you can't use real logic in Naruto
It looks like Kishi didn't calculate every thing

 

[The Sach]

Dude i have to give you credit for all of those calculations but the truth is that you can't use real logic in Naruto
It looks like Kishi didn't calculate every thing

Or maybe he did calculated all those things, before going into 10th of October thing...

Obito is between two and four years older than Kakashi, people should know this.

Yes I agree with it...

 

[- J AV -]

nice effort bro.,,,,,=D=D

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

One year=365 days,365/29.5(minimum difference between two full moons=29.5 days)=12.378(in short fraction,which proves there is remainder and hence no full moon), but it is wrong, as Kishi drew full moon in both the panels, so Kakashi didn't become Jounin at the age of 12-13.(only thing I didn't calculate, or derived from timeline)
So he became Jounin 3 years before Rin's death i.e. when he was 10 years old, why 3 years, because 365*3/29.5=37.12(also fraction but with less remainder so can be considered accurate, because of leap year thing, take 365+366+365, it will be accurate) it also proves Kakashi's physical change(growth)->
10 year old Kakashi->

This right here. . . doesn't mean s**t in the world of Naruto.

Kakashi was thirteen when he was promoted to a Jonin - that's it.

Now, about the "there can't be two October 10's" is also wrong. How and why?

Well, Obito being crushed by the rockes and Rin's death happen in one year, that is thirteen years before the series start. Naruto was born twelve years before the series start - meaning they are two different years, which means there are two different October 10's.

Obito is between two and four years older than Kakashi, people should know this.

Umm. . . no, people should know that they are the same age. :yeah:

 

[Rikudou Sennin balls]

No when Obito died he was 13 when the kyuubi attacked he was still maybe 13-14 there wasn't much time that passed between Rin and Obito's deaths. The kyuubi attack Kakashi was around 16 if Obito truly is 2 years older than Kakashi that would explain why he's taller and his voice is deeper because he'd be 18-19

Also it seems every Naruto birthday there's a full moon because his 17th there will be a full moon to seeing as there's one tonight.

 

[The Sach]

This right here. . . doesn't mean s**t in the world of Naruto.

Kakashi was thirteen when he was promoted to a Jonin - that's it.

Now, about the "there can't be two October 10's" is also wrong. How and why?

Well, Obito being crushed by the rockes and Rin's death happen in one year, that is thirteen years before the series start. Naruto was born twelve years before the series start - meaning they are two different years, which means there are two different October 10's.

Maths proves that wrong, because in both the cases(Rin's death and Naruto's birth) there was a full moon and we can't have two full moons in two successive years, and that's where things started going wrong...:yeah:

No when Obito died he was 13 when the kyuubi attacked he was still maybe 13-14 there wasn't much time that passed between Rin and Obito's deaths. The kyuubi attack Kakashi was around 16 if Obito truly is 2 years older than Kakashi that would explain why he's taller and his voice is deeper because he'd be 18-19

Also it seems every Naruto birthday there's a full moon because his 17th there will be a full moon to seeing as there's one tonight.

I think there was because 1. Full moon thing,and maths behind it..
2. And give me some proof for this..

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

Maths proves that wrong, because in both the cases(Rin's death and Naruto's birth) there was a full moon and we can't have two full moons in two successive years, and that's where things started going wrong...:yeah:

Dude, this is not the real world we are talking about. . . people are spitting fire, blowing up mountains, flying, giant animals, and what not.

The math you are using, as I said, it doesn't mean s**t - if a certain number (age, happening) isn't used in the Manga or Databook, and you are basing it on the real world, won't do you good.

 

[The Sach]

Dude, this is not the real world we are talking about. . . people are spitting fire, blowing up mountains, flying, giant animals, and what not.

The math you are using, as I said, it doesn't mean s**t - if a certain number (age, happening) isn't used in the Manga or Databook, and you are basing it on the real world, won't do you good.

No, I don't think year=365 days isn't applicable in Naruto world and I think that full moon in all occasions must have some meaning and then again that looks still bother me I don't think Kakashi can grow that much in 1 year..

 

[Mr Hiru]

Umm. . . no, people should know that they are the same age. :yeah:

Kakashi became Genin at the age of 5, while Obito did at the age of 9. As for the current system to assign people to teams, it is virtually impossible for Obito and Kakashi being 13 at Kakashi gaiden, they would have been in different teams...

But manga proves that...

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...they were in the same team.

And the Databook (Thanks Kishi for making it) tells more info...

Can you explain why Obito graduated from academy at 9?

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Can you explain how Kakashi graduated from academy at 5 and became chuunin at 6? (bottom-left panel)

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In Kakashi Gaiden, Obito clearly was taller than Kakashi...

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If they were in the same team and people only in the same academy graduation-generation belongs to one team since these teams are created after people graduate from academy, this only proves that Kakashi is four years younger than Obito.

...and I don't need to explain anything else.

PS: Don't trust Narutowikia. It lies sometimes...

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

Sorry for may slow response, but my PC is s**t, literally s**t.

No, I don't think year=365 days isn't applicable in Naruto world and I think that full moon in all occasions must have some meaning and then again that looks still bother me I don't think Kakashi can grow that much in 1 year..

As I said before, two different years, two different October 10's. Plus, the growth thing, this Manga, not the really world. . . hmm . . . :yeah:

Kakashi became Genin at the age of 5, while Obito did at the age of 9. As for the current system to assign people to teams, it is virtually impossible for Obito and Kakashi being 13 at Kakashi gaiden, they would have been in different teams...

But manga proves that...

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...they were in the same team.

And the Databook (Thanks Kishi for making it) tells more info...

Can you explain why Obito graduated from academy at 9?

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Can you explain how Kakashi graduated from academy at 5 and became chuunin at 6? (bottom-left panel)

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In Kakashi Gaiden, Obito clearly was taller than Kakashi...

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If they were in the same team and people only in the same academy graduation-generation belongs to one team since these teams are created after people graduate from academy, this only proves that Kakashi is four years younger than Obito.

...and I don't need to explain anything else.

PS: Don't trust Narutowikia. It lies sometimes...

You are posting something that I already know, and you are basing all of this on Chapter 599, that was full of mistakes - not a go thing at all.

I have definitely been in this kind of discussions more that you, and the only way this cna be settled is if Kishimoto is planing on releasing a Fourth Databook. If not, we can go in endless circles.

PS: I never said that I trusted Narutopedia. . . all the time.

 

[Mr Hiru]

You are posting something that I already know, and you are basing all of this on Chapter 599, that was full of mistakes - not a go thing at all.

I have definitely been in this kind of discussions more that you, and the only way this cna be settled is if Kishimoto is planing on releasing a Fourth Databook. If not, we can go in endless circles.

PS: I never said that I trusted Narutopedia. . . all the time.

I don't care you have been more than me in these discussions, I gave you hard proofs and if you're just telling that now Kishimoto is wrong, well, that is only you thinking that way.

You failed to see that the most hard proof I gave weren't even in chapter 599, but in the databooks related to Kakashi and Obito.

If that's all you have and you can't prove I'm wrong, then keep thinking the way you do, I am grown enough to respect your opinion but not agree with it.

 

[Draxus]

I'm 1000% sure Kishi considered how the phases of the moon work when he draws his panels :eww: