I don't care you have been more than me in these discussions, I gave you hard proofs and if you're just telling that now Kishimoto is wrong, well, that is only you thinking that way.
@ You failed to see that the most hard proof I gave weren't even in chapter 599, but in the databooks related to Kakashi and Obito.
If that's all you have and you can't prove I'm wrong, then keep thinking the way you do, I am grown enough to respect your opinion but not agree with it.
You seem to don't understand what I'm talking about.
If I post some "proofs", you will post another ones. It will just go in never ending circles - that's why there is only one solution: Fourth Databook.
Meaning, I don't what to be stuck in the same discusion again, without any final answer.
@ You don't even see it yourself. You are comparing all those "proofs" to Chapter 599. Before the chapter there weren't any discussions about this. . . everybody knew that Kakashi and Obito were the same age. After the chapter some people started changing their minds.
You seem to don't understand what I'm talking about.
If I post some "proofs", you will post another ones. It will just go in never ending circles - that's why there is only one solution: Fourth Databook.
Meaning, I don't what to be stuck in the same discusion again, without any final answer.
@ You don't even see it yourself. You are comparing all those "proofs" to Chapter 599. Before the chapter there weren't any discussions about this. . . everybody knew that Kakashi and Obito were the same age. After the chapter some people started changing their minds.
You talk too much and don't give a damn proof. Please, tell me something that proves me wrong once for all, or I'll start assuming that you're just talking with arrogance, without getting to any solid point.
What was so wrong about 599? And please, tell me something that really seems wrong and not just something for the convenience of your points (if you have any, because I really can't get where are you getting at).
You talk too much and don't give a damn proof. Please, tell me something that proves me wrong once for all, or I'll start assuming that you're just talking with arrogance, without getting to any solid point.
What was so wrong about 599? And please, tell me something that really seems wrong and not just something for the convenience of your points (if you have any, because I really can't get where are you getting at).
I didn't get ur point ...Nither data book nor manga stated that Kakashi and Obito are about same..and both Manga as wel as databook indicates that Kakashi is younger than Obito....
See it dosen't mean that they are abt same age just bcoz they are in same team and I still dnt understand dpndng on what factor ur sayng that Kakashi and Obito are abt same age..!
I knw that real world logic's won't work on Naruto manga but here he is usng Manga and Data logic's
Where did u get that Kakashi becomng Jounin at the age 13 thing and how can u belive that without reading 4th data book..?
A lot of times I have been seeing people who says that Kishimoto is wrong here and there, and it ends with people who misunderstand simple facts.
Come on, could you tell me what's wrong with Obito entering the academy way older than Kakashi? Or maybe Obito failing the final exams of academy?
Naruto failed three times these exams and people swears that Naruto is the same age as the people of Rookie 9 (sub Naruto), and because of that if Kishimoto tells Naruto has 18 people would say that Kishimoto was wrong...
As for me, I just watched 599 again, and I didn't see any mismatch.
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Kakashi entered academy - Obito entered academy (It is not stated if one entered before the other or if any of them failed final exams, it is only stated in DB that Kakashi graduated at the age of 5 while Obito did at the age of 9).
Databook links I put earlier
Kakashi was promoted to Chuunin at the age of 6, Obito failed to be promoted to Chuunin at the age of 10. This took place in chapter 599.
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To further give basis to this statement, Kakashi...
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Yes, at this point of the manga, Naruto is 12 years old, meaning that Kakashi was promoted to Chuunin at the age of 6 (maybe he was about to have 7). It is just consistent with the Databook.
1~1.5 after this event, Obito took the Chuunin exam again, and he passed at the age of 11. Again, consistent with the Databook.
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And as 599 is full of flashbacks, there is a timeskip of 1.5~2 years where Rin tells Obito about the plan of Kakashi's promotion to Jounin.
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Everyone gave a present to Kakashi, who got the title at the age of 9. Even Obito, who gave his Sharingan after the battle of Kannabi Bridge... Obito at th age of 13.
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Manga had errors? I don't think so... it was people who misunderstood how life is seen in a second before death ocurrs. Time just skips that fast, but it keep consistence.
Current Kakashi is 30 years old while current Obito is 34 years old (more or less, I'm not doing calculations).
My last post gives some basis to what OP said about Kakashi's age when he achieved the Jounin class. I can't help but to agree with what Sachchidanand stated.
My last post gives some basis to what OP said about Kakashi's age when he achieved the Jounin class. I can't help but to agree with what Sachchidanand stated.
Good Theory you got there =D
I don't think there will be a gap of one year between the death events of Rin and Kushina.
Kushina was a Jinchuuriki. And a Jinchuuriki has a full pregnancy of 10 months. That means her 1st day of pregnancy should be within 5th Jan - 15th Jan (if we consider 10 months accurately)
And if we consider, Rin's death on 10th October of previous year then the events of Minato becoming Hokage, his marriage has to be within three months. But that cannot be possible. That means he must have waited for more than a year. And during that period he must have met the Akatsuki members, that is, Nagato, Yahiko and Konan because when Obito met them, he was still covered under that Spiral Zetsu whereas when he arrived at village to capture the Kyuubi, he was wearing the mask. Also he said to Kushina that he waited long for the moment. He must have trained himself to fight against Minato in that period.
Minimum time skip between the death events of Rin and Kushina has to be 2-3 years.
I was like O_O when I went through those calculations you did there on the full moon appearance.
Good Theory you got there =D
I don't think there will be a gap of one year between the death events of Rin and Kushina.
Kushina was a Jinchuuriki. And a Jinchuuriki has a full pregnancy of 10 months. That means her 1st day of pregnancy should be within 5th Jan - 15th Jan (if we consider 10 months accurately)
And if we consider, Rin's death on 10th October of previous year then the events of Minato becoming Hokage, his marriage has to be within three months. But that cannot be possible. That means he must have waited for more than a year. And during that period he must have met the Akatsuki members, that is, Nagato, Yahiko and Konan because when Obito met them, he was still covered under that Spiral Zetsu whereas when he arrived at village to capture the Kyuubi, he was wearing the mask. Also he said to Kushina that he waited long for the moment. He must have trained himself to fight against Minato in that period.
Minimum time skip between the death events of Rin and Kushina has to be 2-3 years.
I was like O_O when I went through those calculations you did there on the full moon appearance.
Why would Team Minato give Kakashi presents if he graduated as Jounin 3 years before the gaiden? Makes no sense. Also, if Obito could grow a lot, why not Kakashi as well?
