100+ threads on Sage Mode and none of you get it WOW!

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Ok so I've read a lot of threads on Sage Mode and someone has yet to explain it properly.

Sage Mode is a form achieved through taking in Natural Chakra and being able to balance it within the body, allow with ones own chakra (spirit and body). A perfect balance will result in a perfect Sage Mode, which as you know is achieved by Naruto. An imperfect balance achieved can still result in a Sage Mode, however the user takes on animal features as seen with Jiraiya. Inability to control Natural Chakra result in the user turning into an animal (in Naruto's Case), then stone.


Once Sage Mode is achieved the user can use the Natural Chakra to perform Senjutsu (Sage Techniques).


MISCONCEPTIONS

Where a lot of you "READERS" are getting confused is with the information mention today.

It was previously known that Juugo is the original source of the Curse Seal and he can transform into this creature. Orochimaru took his DNA and created an enzyme (protein catalyst) that allows bearers to take on the same transformation as Juugo.


We learn today that the transformation is a result of the bodies ability to take in Natural Chakra. Juugo and members of his clan can take in Natural Chakra, causing them to transform. However once they transform they go berserk.
What Orochimaru tried to discover was why they went berserk and how they acquired this ability. Orochimaru later discovered the source is the Ryuchidou (dragon cave).

What this means is that the transformation and the berserk nature is caused by taking in Natural Chakra, without fully balancing their own Chakra with the Natural Chakra.Their transformation is the same as turning into a frog, like nature did when he could not control the Natural Chakra. The source of their transformation is Ryuchidou, meaning that the members of Juugo's Clan are Dragon Sages, who could not achieve perfect Sage Mode. This would explain their berserk nature and animal characteristics. The reason I believe Juugo's ancestor's were had Perfect Sage Mode,Normally users would absorb Natural Chakra through meditation however, Juugo's Clan's ability allows them to take in Natural Chakra without doing so.

I would assume that the ancestors of Juugo's were able to achieve Perfect Sage Mode because
their descendants, who transform and take on the form of a Dragon when they absorb Natural Chakra are Imperfect Sages. However for them to take on the form of a Dragon when they transform, it must mean their ancestors went to learn Sage Mode in Ryuchidou. But yeah that's just an assumption.

Orochimaru attempted to acquire perfect Sage Mode, however he did not have ability to absorb Natural Chakra like Juugo could. Therefore he developed the Curse Seal to allow the bearer to mimic Juugo's causing the bearer to mimic Juugo's transformation. Since Kabuto said the Curse Seal was fake, I would assume that means the Curse Seal allows the transformation to occur, however it is a result of Orochimaru's Chakra, not Natural Chakra. I came up with this conclusion because the Curse Seal is merely an Enzyme (speeding up the transformation) ,made from Juugo's DNA and it contains Orochimaru's Chakra (Kabuto stated that, when he Kidnapped Anko) meant to mimic Juugo's transformation.

The Curse Seal was Orochimaru's way of searching for a body compatible with Juugo's ability to transform, so he could implant them with Juugo's ability and take over the body, which would allow him to absorb Natural Chakra so he could acquire Sage Mode later in Ryuchidou. Kabuto basically took on Orochimaru's plans and did everything Orochimaru couldn't do. Pretty impressive, but Orochimaru's research skills and experimental hypothesis are pretty amazing. Props to hims, screw Kabuto for mooching off him lawl :p

Just like Naruto, Kabuto acquires features from a dragon, which I would assume are the horns, since he implanted Orochimaru's cells in him, resulting in the same eyes and Orochimaru wasn't able to acquire Sage Mode.

Hope you have a better understanding, and be sure to actually read properly before you put up stupid threads :)

*I understand a lot of you have a problem with my attitude, but at first I was just trolling the ppl who wrote these ridiculous Sage Mode Threads. Honestly after a new chapter comes out some ppl write some ridiculous sh*t and its really really annoying. I was trying to be playful about it, but it seems I've appeared to be some kind of negative figure. Oh well, I guess for some of u its your first time meeting a troll on the internet. Well here's a lesson. Not all negativity should be taken to the heart. Honestly, why so serious?
 
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Agreed. also saw a thread earlier today that could tie into this. The Only two perfect sages we've seen so far have Uzumaki DNA. Meaning that the reason Jugo's clan acquired the natural energy and went beserk is because their bodies weren't stable enough to withstand it. Which is why Kabuto stole DNA from karin in order to achieve what Orochimaru couldn't; be a perfect sage.
 

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Agreed. also saw a thread earlier today that could tie into this. The Only two perfect sages we've seen so far have Uzumaki DNA. Meaning that the reason Jugo's clan acquired the natural energy and went beserk is because their bodies weren't stable enough to withstand it. Which is why Kabuto stole DNA from karin in order to achieve what Orochimaru couldn't; be a perfect sage.
i doubt it.It never was said in the manga that they couldnt become perfect sages. They can bring in nature chakra without meditating and speak to animals. To me they are on a different lvl when it comes to controlling nature's chakra than naruto is.
 

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so is juugo's clan the original sage mode users or what?
The just have the ability to absorb Natural Chakra. The origin of their transformation is the Dragon, so they learned it from Ryuchidou. They aren't the original Sage Mode users, there transformation is just an imperfect form. Perfect Sage Mode would be like Kabuto now, and its possible Juugo's ancestors could use Perfect Sage Mode and their descendants like Juugo and can't balance their Chakra completely causing his berserk nature.
 
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good info. +rep
dont be a douche about it next time though. its not like it was fully explained in the manga and not everyone can interpret information that well. Get over it.
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oh, i hadn't thought of that part of it. +rep xd
It is fully explained in the manga. Where did u think I got the info from? Don't be mad at me because you can't interpret info as well as I can. Perhaps you should follow a less complex story :)
 

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awesome explanation
Agreed. also saw a thread earlier today that could tie into this. The Only two perfect sages we've seen so far have Uzumaki DNA. Meaning that the reason Jugo's clan acquired the natural energy and went beserk is because their bodies weren't stable enough to withstand it. Which is why Kabuto stole DNA from karin in order to achieve what Orochimaru couldn't; be a perfect sage.
another awesome explanation
 

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The just have the ability to absorb Natural Chakra. The origin of their transformation is the Dragon, so they learned it from Ryuchidou. They aren't the original Sage Mode users, there transformation is just an imperfect form. Perfect Sage Mode would be like Kabuto now, and its possible Juugo's ancestors could use Perfect Sage Mode and their descendants like Juugo and can't balance their Chakra completely causing his berserk nature.
I thought ryuchidou was just a cave.Not a real dragon.
 
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Ok so I've read a lot of threads on Sage Mode and someone has yet to explain it properly.

Sage Mode is a form achieved through taking in Natural Chakra and being able to balance it within the body, allow with ones own chakra (spirit and body). A perfect balance will result in a perfect Sage Mode, which as you know is achieved by Naruto. An imperfect balance achieved can still result in a Sage Mode, however the user takes on animal features as seen with Jiraiya. Inability to control Natural Chakra result in the user turning into an animal (in Naruto's Case), then stone.


Once Sage Mode is achieved the user can use the Natural Chakra to perform Senjutsu (Sage Techniques).


MISCONCEPTIONS

Where a lot of you "READERS" are getting confused is with the information mention today.

It was previously known that Juugo is the original source of the Curse Seal and he can transform into this creature. Orochimaru took his DNA and created an enzyme (protein catalyst) that allows bearers to take on the same transformation as Juugo.


We learn today that the transformation is a result of the bodies ability to take in Natural Chakra. Juugo and members of his clan can take in Natural Chakra, causing them to transform. However once they transform they go berserk.
What Orochimaru tried to discover was why they went berserk and how they acquired this ability. Orochimaru later discovered the source is the Ryuchidou (dragon cave).

What this means is that the transformation and the berserk nature is caused by taking in Natural Chakra, without fully balancing their own Chakra with the Natural Chakra.Their transformation is the same as turning into a frog, like nature did when he could not control the Natural Chakra. The source of their transformation is Ryuchidou, meaning that the members of Juugo's Clan are Dragon Sages, who could not achieve perfect Sage Mode. This would explain their berserk nature and animal characteristics. Normally users would absorb Natural Chakra through meditation however, Juugo's Clan's ability allows them to take in Natural Chakra without doing so.

Orochimaru attempted to acquire perfect Sage Mode, however he did not have ability to absorb Natural Chakra like Juugo could. Therefore he developed the Curse Seal to allow the bearer to mimic Juugo's causing the bearer to mimic Juugo's transformation. Since Kabuto said the Curse Seal was fake, I would assume that means the Curse Seal allows the transformation to occur, however it is a result of Orochimaru's Chakra, not Natural Chakra. I came up with this conclusion because the Curse Seal is merely an Enzyme (speeding up the transformation) ,made from Juugo's DNA and it contains Orochimaru's Chakra (Kabuto stated that, when he Kidnapped Anko) meant to mimic Juugo's transformation.

The Curse Seal was Orochimaru's way of searching for a body compatible with Juugo's ability to transform, so he could implant them with Juugo's ability and take over the body, which would allow him to absorb Natural Chakra so he could acquire Sage Mode later in Ryuchidou. Kabuto basically took on Orochimaru's plans and did everything Orochimaru couldn't do. Pretty impressive, but Orochimaru's research skills and experimental hypothesis are pretty amazing. Props to hims, screw Kabuto for mooching off him lawl :p

Just like Naruto, Kabuto acquires features from a dragon, which I would assume are the horns, since he implanted Orochimaru's cells in him, resulting in the same eyes and Orochimaru wasn't able to acquire Sage Mode.

Hope you losers have a better understanding, and be sure to actually read properly before you put up stupid threads :)
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Thanx a lot... But what about oro's clan? Oro seem to have scales similar to jugo's transformation... does that mean oro's body is constantly absorbing nature chakra too? I think there will be hawk sage mode as well since sasuke had hawk transformation in his curse seal level 2 -_-
 

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Yes, I knew this already.

Though, people aren't very bright on the Base, so you did well in explaining it.

Keep in mind also that Orochimaru knew about Madara and the Rinnegan.

I theorize that Sage mode + Rinnegan = Sage of Six Path's power.

The body + dojutsu.
 
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