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he lost to alive madara then and edo madara at 80% full strength he is top 20 he is still stronger than most kages
[Discussion] 10 Reasons Why is Ōnoki Deserves to Be in Top 10
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Beauty Busty Beast
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Lol I can't believe the denial people give even after I have provided my reasons... and yet people think Kakashi, Itachi, Sasuke, Tobirama and Minato are above Onoki. Just tell me guys how can all these guys escape death when a jinton is fired at them? Remember Madara wa able to stay alive when he fought Kage because he was an edo and has Rinnegan... a shot of a jinton directed to you death is inevitable. Onoki deserves the 6th spot atleast.
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He is impressive. Tanked two meteors crashing on him and was able to resist the flower tree world and jinton it away after that. But as stated by people before he is not top 10.
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1. Kekei Touta is not necessery better than Kekei Genkai, it's good as it's user.
2. Muu and First Tsuchikage can fly.
3. And still he and Muu (both of them) were defeated (fodderized) by Madara, 2nd Mizukage also beat Oonoki.
4. That does not prove much, since that lighten jutsus can't really be used in battle.
5. Many shinbois can one shot. Darui/Mei/Tsunade is nowhere near top tier and at the time he got Sasuke, Sasuke was already battle worn.
6. This is true.
7. Only if Onoki touch you, my top 10/15 can all escape that.
8. He's not the only one. Madara, Hashirama, Obito, Sasuke, Itachi, Kakashi, etc
9. Until he use some feats like that, i don't believe that.
10. True. Onoki > Hiruzen
2. Muu and First Tsuchikage can fly.
3. And still he and Muu (both of them) were defeated (fodderized) by Madara, 2nd Mizukage also beat Oonoki.
4. That does not prove much, since that lighten jutsus can't really be used in battle.
5. Many shinbois can one shot. Darui/Mei/Tsunade is nowhere near top tier and at the time he got Sasuke, Sasuke was already battle worn.
6. This is true.
7. Only if Onoki touch you, my top 10/15 can all escape that.
8. He's not the only one. Madara, Hashirama, Obito, Sasuke, Itachi, Kakashi, etc
9. Until he use some feats like that, i don't believe that.
10. True. Onoki > Hiruzen
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Shiet, stop it. You are talking about "what if Jinton is fired up", if then they are fcked but as said above.. it's a charge up technique. Most of them solo Onoki before he can fire a Jinton. Muu is above Onoki and got ass kicked by KCM Naruto.
Hashirama > Onoki
Madara > Onoki
Tobirama > Onoki
Minato > Onoki
Naruto > Onoki
Obito > Onoki
Gai > Onoki
DSM Kabuto > Onoki
Orochimaru (Edo Tensei, calm your tits) > Onoki
Muu > Onoki
second Mizukage > Onoki
AlastorNazura17
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Other Kages helped to distract Madara, if it was a 1v1 Madara would have killed him long time.
I like Oonoki, but he really isn't top 10. Top 15 or 20 maybe.
1. Madara (Beats Oonoki because he's Madara)
2. Hashirama (Beats Oonoki, SM obliterates)
3. Obito (Beats him, can't even touch Obito cause of Kamui)
4. Naruto (Beats Oonoki, speed and raw firepower rapes)
5. Sasuke ( One shots with Amaterasu, not going going beyond that)
6. Nagato (Rinnegan user, Oonoki Jinton useless against his Preta Path.)
7. Itachi (Same as Sasuke; Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi or Totsuka Blade and GG)
8. Minato (One tag and GG, even if he doesn't, he has the raw speed and power with SM/ KCM or BM)
9. Kabuto (DSM solos, can't even touch Kabuto)
10. Gai (... we know how this will go. Gai rapes via 7 gate)
11. Kakashi (Kamui snipes, GG)
12. Tobirama (One tag and he's done, avoids Jinton due to FTG)
No need to go beyond that.
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He's definately Strong, but he isn't top 10.
Also, Nagato can fly. And Shoot Lasers. Can Onoki shoot lasers?
Also, Nagato can fly. And Shoot Lasers. Can Onoki shoot lasers?
Being faster than your opponent doesn't mean the opponent is automatically defeated, Onoki has incredible defense and offense.. while space time users if you were referring to FTG of Minato and Tobirama also requires marks... which I believe would make Onoki negate all that when he goes to the sky.
Fast people tend to be at a disadvantage when they are facing an opponent with strong defense... and since they are fast their defenses are usually low...and please stop making it sound like FTG users can use it anytime... there are conditions they need to meet 1st. they need the mark on their opponent or on Kunai like Minato.. but jinton can obliterate all those kunai if they were placed in a battle field.. Thus Minato's ability to jump from Kuani to kunai is rendered useless.
Enlighten me how does kakashi defeat Onoki? Even though Onki is old I'm sure he still moves swiftly well to be able to use body flicker jutsu.
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You talking like Ohnoki will fly in the whole fight and keep using jinton from the sky , FTG markings arent problem for Minato , If Ohnoki wants to destory every single kunai placed by Minato im pretty sure he will run out of chakra pretty fast . Calling Minato's defence weak is not serious .
AlastorNazura17
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Kakashi isn't slow, neither is Kamui. Kakashi isn't stupid, he wouldn't just stand there and let himself get hit by Jinton. Besides, Jinton takes way too long charging up, if he goes for that, then Kakashi will Kamui him, simple.
Madara battled against Onoki and Muu in the past and won with very little effort. At the time Madara only had EMS which ruins your first point as Madara would have been able to dodge the Kekkai Touta even without Rinnegan.
I do believe that he deserves a high spot though.
I do believe that he deserves a high spot though.