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he lost to alive madara then and edo madara at 80% full strength he is top 20 he is still stronger than most kages
he lost to alive madara then and edo madara at 80% full strength he is top 20 he is still stronger than most kages
1 & 5 = the same point.
2 & 3 = the same point.
4, 7, & 9 = end up to the same point, weight control.
6 & 8 = Basically lead to his experience.
Thus, gathered up, you'd have 4 points, at least. But he is fairly strong.
@Bold, ah no.
Lol I can't believe the denial people give even after I have provided my reasons... and yet people think Kakashi, Itachi, Sasuke, Tobirama and Minato are above Onoki. Just tell me guys how can all these guys escape death when a jinton is fired at them? Remember Madara wa able to stay alive when he fought Kage because he was an edo and has Rinnegan... a shot of a jinton directed to you death is inevitable. Onoki deserves the 6th spot atleast.
Lol I can't believe the denial people give even after I have provided my reasons... and yet people think Kakashi, Itachi, Sasuke, Tobirama and Minato are above Onoki. Just tell me guys how can all these guys escape death when a jinton is fired at them? Remember Madara wa able to stay alive when he fought Kage because he was an edo and has Rinnegan... a shot of a jinton directed to you death is inevitable. Onoki deserves the 6th spot atleast.
Lol I can't believe the denial people give even after I have provided my reasons... and yet people think Kakashi, Itachi, Sasuke, Tobirama and Minato are above Onoki. Just tell me guys how can all these guys escape death when a jinton is fired at them? Remember Madara wa able to stay alive when he fought Kage because he was an edo and has Rinnegan... a shot of a jinton directed to you death is inevitable. Onoki deserves the 6th spot atleast.
Jikūkan Ninjutsu > Jinton
Being faster than your opponent doesn't mean the opponent is automatically defeated, Onoki has incredible defense and offense.. while space time users if you were referring to FTG of Minato and Tobirama also requires marks... which I believe would make Onoki negate all that when he goes to the sky.
He's definately Strong, but he isn't top 10.
Also, Nagato can fly. And Shoot Lasers. Can Onoki shoot lasers?
I mean the Jinton cannot touch FTG user cuz u asked what if jinton is fired at them .
Other Kages helped to distract Madara, if it was a 1v1 Madara would have killed him long time.
I like Oonoki, but he really isn't top 10. Top 15 or 20 maybe.
1. Madara (Beats Oonoki because he's Madara)
2. Hashirama (Beats Oonoki, SM obliterates)
3. Obito (Beats him, can't even touch Obito cause of Kamui)
4. Naruto (Beats Oonoki, speed and raw firepower rapes)
5. Sasuke ( One shots with Amaterasu, not going going beyond that)
6. Nagato (Rinnegan user, Oonoki Jinton useless against his Preta Path.)
7. Itachi (Same as Sasuke; Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi or Totsuka Blade and GG)
8. Minato (One tag and GG, even if he doesn't, he has the raw speed and power with SM/ KCM or BM)
9. Kabuto (DSM solos, can't even touch Kabuto)
10. Gai (... we know how this will go. Gai rapes via 7 gate)
11. Kakashi (Kamui snipes, GG)
12. Tobirama (One tag and he's done, avoids Jinton due to FTG)
No need to go beyond that.
He is impressive. Tanked two meteors crashing on him and was able to resist the flower tree world and jinton it away after that. But as stated by people before he is not top 10.
Fast people tend to be at a disadvantage when they are facing an opponent with strong defense... and since they are fast their defenses are usually low...and please stop making it sound like FTG users can use it anytime... there are conditions they need to meet 1st. they need the mark on their opponent or on Kunai like Minato.. but jinton can obliterate all those kunai if they were placed in a battle field.. Thus Minato's ability to jump from Kuani to kunai is rendered useless.
Enlighten me how does kakashi defeat Onoki? Even though Onki is old I'm sure he still moves swiftly well to be able to use body flicker jutsu.
Fast people tend to be at a disadvantage when they are facing an opponent with strong defense... and since they are fast their defenses are usually low...and please stop making it sound like FTG users can use it anytime... there are conditions they need to meet 1st. they need the mark on their opponent or on Kunai like Minato.. but jinton can obliterate all those kunai if they were placed in a battle field.. Thus Minato's ability to jump from Kuani to kunai is rendered useless.
Enlighten me how does kakashi defeat Onoki? Even though Onki is old I'm sure he still moves swiftly well to be able to use body flicker jutsu.