[Spoilers] 0th Division

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Why minus the flames? He had the flames and still got owned by juha because he planned ahead Yama's numerous failure's are a result of Yama not planning ahead and thinking smart. If someone has a brilliant plan you can out smart power every single time.
Lol Yamamoto had no idea when they where coming back juha had 1000 years to plan his attack but only gave Yamamoto like what 3days I don't kno something like that..but what if he fought Yamamoto straight up his power vs Yamamoto power then what, he would have got beat down easy..

That's why minus flames cuz its like Yamamoto never had them in the first place when fighting juha for the second time. Juha can't beat Yamamoto if he has his flames you kno that an that other guy that be talkin stupid.

Like if juha fought aizen juha would get his ass beat but aizen can't beat Yamamoto an aizen knos that that's why Yamamoto is the strongest.
 

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lol.... that not really right answer because his bankai was stolen.. if not then Bach would have ****ed by his skeleton troops or his powers.
If yamamoto is the strongest and he was defeated so easily by Juha Bach then theres no hope. game over. lets just stop watching this and move on..
 

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guys..this is a thread about 0 division..so discuss about whom you think might be in 0 division... We are going way to off topic trying to explain that there maybe others stronger than yamamoto..and this guy doesnt even understand...think about who might be the Special war potentials..ichigo and zaraki were SPW..who could the other three be?

isshin is way too mysterious..nobody in SS knows about him..maybe he was one of the members of zero division?
and is urahara one? coz he maybe able to find a way to stop the bankai stealing technique..
As you can see the thread maker said he thinks there stronger than all the squads an that's where I have to disagree.
 

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well that is what everyone would hope for.. you want everyone to think that the last hope in SS or the last line of defence to be weaker than gotie 13? its like telling them bleach is over... you dont even know who are or how many are there in zero div. and how can you prove that they are weaker than yamamoto?

because of what yamamoto said that no soul reaper born in 1000 has been stronger than him?
what if there were soul reapers older than yamamoto in zero division. No one seems to know about isshin in SS. the only way is he must have been a member of the Royal guard. This also means that Yamamoto doesnt really know anything about members of the royal guard.

It is also stated that the zero division will only appear after the Captain Commander is dead....why will they appear if they are weaker then yamamoto and gotei 13? for praying? NO. It means they are the only hope of stopping the enemy.

And see the way isshin owns aizen with one finger and how aizen reacts to it.

[video=youtube;FdaLYvF6jTY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdaLYvF6jTY[/video]
Note: he has the oldest an strongest zanpacto what makes you think there is another soul reaper older or stronger than him?..

Of course they gone show up after he dies once he dies that mean soul society is helpless.

Owns aizen I believe aizen did all the owning in their fight..that little pluck is nothing compared to Yamamoto dubble bone.

If they are stronger than yamamoto then the show is over no need for ichigo to even fight zero squad will end him beating him like he's nothing
 
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Note: he has the oldest an strongest zanpacto what makes you think there is another soul reaper older or stronger than him?..

Of course they gone show up after he dies once he dies that mean soul society is helpless.

Owns aizen I believe aizen did all the owning in their fight..that little pluck is nothing compared to Yamamoto dubble bone.

If they are stronger than yamamoto then the show is over no need for ichigo to even fight zero squad will end him beating him like he's nothing
That's the most stupidest thing you've ever said and that's hard to pick out of all the other stupid things you say.

What would be the point then for 0 squad to come out then if it's hopeless, why would Juha want to retreat from 0 squad despite him having Yamamoto's bankai which to you is the power fullest things in the universe, no if it was hopeless for 0 squad now why didn't they come before Yamamoto's battle.

Also why would Juha say that now Soul Society has fallen 0 Squad will come to me that sentence says everything you need to know it means that after the Gotei 13 had been dismantled 0 squad will come in.

Now please I suggest you stop with your nonsense because if it is shown that 0 squad owns the Gotei 13 including Yamamoto everyone is going to see you as an idiot...well the ones who don't already.
 

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That's the most stupidest thing you've ever said and that's hard to pick out of all the other stupid things you say.

What would be the point then for 0 squad to come out then if it's hopeless, why would Juha want to retreat from 0 squad despite him having Yamamoto's bankai which to you is the power fullest things in the universe, no if it was hopeless for 0 squad now why didn't they come before Yamamoto's battle.

Also why would Juha say that now Soul Society has fallen 0 Squad will come to me that sentence says everything you need to know it means that after the Gotei 13 had been dismantled 0 squad will come in.

Now please I suggest you stop with your nonsense because if it is shown that 0 squad owns the Gotei 13 including Yamamoto everyone is going to see you as an idiot...well the ones who don't already.
Lol what I said they are going to come if SS is helpless no need for them to show up if Yamamoto is still alive an can Handel things they are meant to show up if Yamamoto is defeated..it does not matter if they are weaker they still supposed to come help no matter what.

An by retreat he means he's not going to wait for them to come as you can see he has to leave.

Yamamoto the strongest the end
 

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Lol what I said they are going to come if SS is helpless no need for them to show up if Yamamoto is still alive an can Handel things they are meant to show up if Yamamoto is defeated..it does not matter if they are weaker they still supposed to come help no matter what.

An by retreat he means he's not going to wait for them to come as you can see he has to leave.

Yamamoto the strongest the end
Yet again you missed the point if your argument was correct they would have called upon 0 squad before SS was crushed but the fact they only come once the Gotei 13 have been destroyed proves to me they are stronger than Yamamoto...You so wrong it's funny.
 

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Yet again you missed the point if your argument was correct they would have called upon 0 squad before SS was crushed but the fact they only come once the Gotei 13 have been destroyed proves to me they are stronger than Yamamoto...You so wrong it's funny.
No they are meant to show up if Yamamoto is defeated becuz they kno he's SS strongest soul reaper they not gone call zero squad if Yamamoto still standing they don't kno that Yamamoto bout to get killed so why call before Yamamoto is defeated you sounding very stupid right now lol..

Yamamoto>every body so far.
 
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Oldest zanpakuto of all times? i guess no..you are wrong.

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there. he says yama has the oldest soul cutter of "fire element". So there are other older Zanpakutos of different elements...

And What is Royal guard?

The Royal Guard is known to promote former captains of the Gotei 13 to their ranks.

i'm not going to explain everything again for you to understand...just sum it up yourselves..
Different manga sites say different thing shit might not be the oldest...lol but notice he say stronger than all others.

In the chapter befor that Yamamoto says that when ukitake an kyraku fight together that power is unrivaled by anyone that came befor or After them,most likely he's not talking bout him self in that matter but, that also lets you kno Yamamoto is the strongest.
 
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No they are meant to show up if Yamamoto is defeated becuz they kno he's SS strongest soul reaper they not gone call zero squad if Yamamoto still standing they don't kno that Yamamoto bout to get killed so why call before Yamamoto is defeated you sounding very stupid right now lol..

Yamamoto>every body so far.
Yet he's dead so no your wrong.
 

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which means there are other soul reapers in 0 division who have powers similar to captain commander level..if it not might be the oldest then are older soul reaper than him in the 0 division.. it is mentioned that yama's zanpakuto is the strongest in Soul society..not the strongest of all time...notice that we are talking about the royal gaurds here...not soul society...
No it's the strongest of all time it's still the strongest for a thousand years now..if Yamamoto wated to he could be in the royal guard an be the strongest in there as well but choose not to an start SS.

Where does it say only strongest in SS ukitake says stronger than all others.

Yet he's dead so no your wrong.
Yea he's was stronger than everybody that came so far...and if zero squad has people stronger than Yamamoto than ichigo can just take the rest of the managa off no need for him to even enter the fight zero squad will just kill all them off like nothing. Cuz if you look at it the Quincy are not that strong juha is the only one that's very strong..don't kno bout that white haired guy yet.

I believe tite said that kyraku will show his bankai an unahana will fight aswell meaning the zero squad will need help from some SS members aswell meaning they are not as strong as you think they are.
 
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so you are telling that ichigo can defeat juha now?lol...
did you see the way Haschwald sliced of ichigo's zanpakuto like a cake...i think zero squad will help ichigo to stop juha bach....
but the ichigo( current) cannot even defeat Haschwald...the zero division cannot use bankai against juha, but if they were captain commander levels then the other quincies cannot handle the stealing of bankai...so the only person who can defeat juha is ichigo and the 0 division will defeat the other quincies ( only if the 0 div is captain commander level). this is my prediction of how this war will end...
When did I ever say ichigo was strong enough right now of course he can't do nothing now but he will gain a lot more power I kno that..an not only zero squad members but also some captians from SS as well will join the fight plus urahara an ichigo dad an yoruichi..ryuken an his son can't spell his name..

Also the rest of shinji group in the world of the living..an hopefully grimjow..that's a lot of help zero squad will get.
 
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this is what i was trying to tell all the time.. captain's bankai can be stolen by sternritters..but they cannot handle a captain commander's bankai...

So, if 0 Division were CC levels then the Sternritters cannot steal bankais... Only Juha can steal and handle CC level bankai.. But No one is able to steal Ichigo's bankai. So it will be Ichigo vs Juha after ichigo gets a lot of training.. And there is no purpose for 0 div to come if they are not CC level , because it would only result in their bankai getting stolen. this is how i predict that the 0 division has captain commander level members... The remaining in the gotei cannot use bankai and can only fight with shikai unless urahara finds a method to stop it. and if yamamoto had the strongest zanpakuto, now it is in juha's hands. so there must be some other zanpakuto which can atleast compete with it , and nobody has such zanpakuto in SS. so we still need to rely on 0 division.

and the reason why i think they are not able to steal ichigo's bankai is because ichigo is also a qunicy.
Ichigo is going to be the one to take on juha anybody else who gets close will lose..an I believe urahara will come up with away to stop it sense tite said We will see kyraku bankai plus tite not gone leave us hanging on not showing eveybody bankai so of course urahara or some one will stop them from stealing..what would be the point of 0 div coming if they are not CC level ima tell you like I told the other guy they will come regardless don't matter if they were all on soi fon level they are going to show up....

They may find away to surpress his flames for a little while untill ichigo arrives..but yea I Dout any of them will be CC level..Some may be close

I think they can't take ichigo Power becuz he's the main person on the show:)
 
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