They are not from the original guard they are the first captains to come out of the academy that Yama started. His brightest students said by Yama himself. The original guard consisted of unknown member's besides Yama and Kirio hikifune who was promoted and not from the original guard. There may be only 5 or 6 originals from Yama's day's as a original guard member the rest of the royal guard beside's those five or six wil be all promoted captains from the gotei 13. Genrei may be from the originals it's still hard to determine he may have left the original guard along with Yama or after Yama it's still unknown. Kyoraku and ukitake and unohana are from the academy day's they are the first of the gotei captains not from the original guard like Yama hopefully this answers some questions for you.
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I'm not going to argue with you since your far to stubborn to realize that Yamamoto was wrong and despite being powerful had more bark than bite, anyone can say they are the strongest but it doesn't mean there right.
And if your want to see something extremely good look at 514 Ichigo was able to damage Juha even while being injured when Yamamoto was lying in a pool of his own blood flapping like a fish out of water.bitch.
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Lol I have gave you manga proof of kyraku saying him an ukitake an yamamoto was from the original gaurd an said nonthing bout genrei you going against the manga lol you win.
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kotoamatsukami
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Lol you going against everybody in the manga even aizen lol he's the strongest man let it go.
Yamamoto already beat his ass did ichigo do that yet lol I think not hah it's over..just what we expected from ichigo to get his ass beat in no time at least beat somebody up Yamamoto did more than him I rest my case.
Take ichigo bankai an he has nothing but weak Quincy powers..smh I hope he at least end up being on Yamamoto level at least cuz this is awful.
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kotoamatsukami
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So you going with *********** or mangahere?
There has not been a soul reaper stronger than him for over a thousand years meaning he's the strongest soul reaper no one is on his level.
Like aizen told renji when did you ever think I stopped useing my shikai he did use it to dodge Yamamoto first hit but then showed him real self an was about to be turned to ash but wonderwisse came..when aizen said he would lose he meant even with his sword that's why he made wonderwisse no need for wonderwisse if aizen just could have beat Yamamoto by himself.
The oldest zanpacto in my guess that means he was the first to kno his sword name so who in the world can be stronger than him.
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Wait till 0 squad appears and then we can see if there are any stronger shinigamis. I mean they are the royal guard and there is a big chance that the first generation captains who fought with Yamamoto against Juha Bach 1000 years ago are in the royal guard. Yes it was 1000 years ago and Shunsui only said that only him, Ukitake and Unohana have been captains for 100 years. You see the time gap of 900 years?
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Btw non of the 0 squad shinigamis are stronger than yamamoto so whoever can defeat him is basicly stronger than all 0 squad members.
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First off stop no soul reaper is stronger thaN Yamamoto why do people fail to see this I just don't get it smh..
Kyraku said him ukitake an Yamamoto were from the original gaurd I rest my case.
First off stop no soul reaper is stronger thaN Yamamoto why do people fail to see this I just don't get it smh..
Kyraku said him ukitake an Yamamoto were from the original gaurd I rest my case.
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Because it's complete nonsense the fact you keep fanboying on Yamamoto and saying he is the strongest despite him being beaten multiple times, also to my other point from before I'm not going against the manga I'm saying the Yamamoto knows nothing he claims to be the strongest yet when it comes down to it he gets chopped in half.
Also did you not read the manga that Juha was a fake the real Juha chopped him into fish pieces in no time, Yamamoto only fought Royd he used his Bankai on royd not Juha, he was raped the moment Juha came onto the battlefield Yamamoto caused no damage towards him.
You say that taking away Ichigo's Bankai means he'll be nothing however the manga proves you wrong again since Ichigo in Shikai was able to draw with Kenpachi he completely destroyed Byakuya's Shikai with his, and you call these new and to be honest unseen Quincy powers...weak?
This is why no one takes you seriously with your points we haven't even seen what these weak Quincy powers can do or what they have the potential to be you only see the little picture while most of us see the big picture.
kotoamatsukami
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Lol you lost its over hahah Dam good fight you put up thoe lol..
They had to steal his power that their proves he is the strongest an they would get raped if they did not do it lol aizen knew he would lose so he stole from Yamamoto juha did not want to get his ass beat again so he stole lol you lose haha yea after you steal his flames he is not the strongest anymore.. It's like I got a pistol an you got a ak-47 but I steal ur ak-47 so now I have ur gun an my gun an all you have is ur hands yeas ur gonna lose hands down.
Yamamoto plus flames=strongest
Don't matter if it was fake juha or real they are not stronger,soul reapers>Quincy that's why the steal bankai cuz they kno they will lose if they don't..got Dat ass beat befor already they don't want that again.
Yea exacly ichigo vs byakuya take away ichigo bankai an let him fight byakuya bankai just useing his shikai he has no chance in hell just like Yamamoto vs juha without his bankai.
Yea right now his Quincy powers are weak am I right that's why I said weak Quincy powers..
An about Yamamoto not being the strongest pleas stop ur starting to sound stupid Very stupid..just stop everyone that beat him did not fight him straight up well one did an got his ass beat lol untill they do an win then Yamamoto is not the strongest. An sense Yamamoto is dead he stays the strongest...lol aizen an juha are cowards lol.
Let me put it in terms a child would understand yama is over over a thousand year's old original guard member's would also have to be around that age. Besides the likely one like Kirio you say that Shunsui and ukitake are original look at the fricken age difference there is no way you are right you've been proven wrong three times about this so stop making yourself look like a donkey.
Second point why would Shunsui and ukitake leave the original guard to go to the academy to then become captains in the gotei? This is where your flaw lies. So frankly your so wrong it is just hilarious. They are maybe original gotei 13 not from the actual original guard which you think they are.
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kotoamatsukami
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O MY ****ING GOD lol kyraku said in the Dam manga The only ones from the original gaurd from a century ago are me ukitake an Yamamoto do I need to post the ****ING MANGA PAGE AGAIN?
I'm not saying this kyraku is put it in child terms for him.
Right here read it
Which would mean you are missing 850 years of data to support your theory.
Oh look here is another page showing Shunsui and ukitake from the academy not the original guard.
What you fail to understand is that the original guard was in place long before the soul academy was. You don't go from an original guard which you think and go to the academy for soul reaper's after already being in the guard. Which is why your logic fail's you read a bad translation.
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Which would mean you are missing 850 years of data to support your theory.
Oh look here is another page showing Shunsui and ukitake from the academy not the original guard.
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What you fail to understand is that the original guard was in place long before the soul academy was. You don't go from an original guard which you think and go to the academy for soul reaper's after already being in the guard. Which is why your logic fail's you read a bad translation.
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kotoamatsukami
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On mangahere chapter 315 he says the only remnants of the original gaurd 100 years ago thats where I seen it at.
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Jesus, I am flabbergasted at how you aren't getting this.
look Shunsui is still a little Kid when its Clear that Yama] is member of the gaurd.
Now how could shunsui a little kid be part of the original Gotai 13 when he is still a kid when Yamamato is in his prime.
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look Shunsui is still a little Kid when its Clear that Yama] is member of the gaurd.
Now how could shunsui a little kid be part of the original Gotai 13 when he is still a kid when Yamamato is in his prime.
Yes it was a bad translation because both *********** which I showed you and the anime says that they graduated and became captains. They did not become captains and then say hey let's go to Yama's academy and then become captains again that's not how it works. The original guard is the royal guard now. Yama left the original guard which the original guard was promoted to the royal guard by the soul king and then Yama started the academy and the gotei thirteen. So time line goes like so
Original guard - royal guard - gotei 13
Soul academy-