[Spoilers] 0th Division

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That came out of the academy yes the originals were made up of folks suchs as these. Genrei yama kirio retired 3rd squad capt
do you realky think that genrei went to the academy he is an original same age group as old yama. shunsui and ukitake and unohana came from the academy. they held title as stated in the pendulum section for a the last hundred years. which means there were originals before them that are in the royal guard or are deceased and or retired. look at young yama and choujiro chapters look at the age difference and the whole academy speach.
Yea kyraku says the only captians from the original gaurd from a century ago is Yamamoto,ukitake,me and unohana...he put Yamamoto in it why not genrei?
 

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Yea kyraku says the only captians from the original gaurd from a century ago is Yamamoto,ukitake,me and unohana...he put Yamamoto in it why not genrei?
He said the only ones to hold a captain seat for the last hundred years not from the original guard.
He said a hundred years only a hundred. Genrei goes back further which is why he said that. The others come back from that hundred years because after they graduated they were captains. Genrei is likely one of Yama's old teammates the one's that juha referred to recently. Which is more than likely because of their age. Also why would Kirio be promoted and not unohana and Shunsui, and ukitake it just does not make sense how you put it. You make it sound like Shunsui and the other two are original members why would they leave the original guard with Yama and become the first academy students to become captains.
 

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He said the only ones to hold a captain seat for the last hundred years not from the original guard.
He said a hundred years only a hundred. Genrei goes back further which is why he said that. The others come back from that hundred years because after they graduated they were captains. Genrei is likely one of Yama's old teammates the one's that juha referred to recently. Which is more than likely because of their age. Also why would Kirio be promoted and not unohana and Shunsui, and ukitake it just does not make sense how you put it. You make it sound like Shunsui and the other two are original members why would they leave the original guard with Yama and become the first academy students to become captains.
Lol I just read it he says from the original guard..he said yamamoto an not genrei?
 

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Answer this then if shunsui and ukitake and unohana were from yama's old team why did kubo not show them in the shadowed picture? Because they were not from yamas original team.
Lol than kyraku lied wtf lol why would he do that..did they show genrei in the shadow pic how can you even tell who was with him?..what does he even mean by the original guard anyway? An why did he say Yamamoto an not genrei? Answer thoes three an you win.
 
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What alot of people still fail to realize around here is that you can't have a reasonable discussion with kotoamatsukami about anything.
Even if you're clearly in the right he'll just make shit up to prove you wrong. Just give up while you're ahead.

However, to not get some annoying notification again I'll stay on topic :p

Zero Squad most likely is stronger alot then the Gotei 13, this due to the fact that the Gotei 13's power lies completely with it's captains and the power-gap between Captain -> Lieutenant -> Rest is just way too big making most squad members pretty useless against any kind of strong opponent.

And I think Zero Squad doesn't share that problem since it most likely only consists out of previous captains or atleast captain level people (with a possible even stronger leader).
 
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What alot of people still fail to realize around here is that you can't have a reasonable discussion with kotoamatsukami about anything.
Even if you're clearly in the right he'll just make shit up to proof you wrong. Just give up while you're ahead.

However, to not get some annoying notification again I'll stay on topic :p


Zero Squad most likely is stronger alot then the Gotei 13, this due to the fact that the Gotei 13's power lies completely with it's captains and the power-gap between Captain -> Lieutenant -> Rest is just way too big making most squad members pretty useless against any kind of strong opponent.

And I think Zero Squad doesn't share that problem since it most likely only consists out of previous captains or atleast captain level people (with a possible even stronger leader).
No one in the zero squad will be stronger than Yamamoto an that's fact only someone stupid would say other wise.
 

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What alot of people still fail to realize around here is that you can't have a reasonable discussion with kotoamatsukami about anything.
Even if you're clearly in the right he'll just make shit up to prove you wrong. Just give up while you're ahead.

However, to not get some annoying notification again I'll stay on topic :p

Zero Squad most likely is stronger alot then the Gotei 13, this due to the fact that the Gotei 13's power lies completely with it's captains and the power-gap between Captain -> Lieutenant -> Rest is just way too big making most squad members pretty useless against any kind of strong opponent.

And I think Zero Squad doesn't share that problem since it most likely only consists out of previous captains or atleast captain level people (with a possible even stronger leader).
Lololol. Yeah thats what im thining but i guess we will just have to find out what happens. Hopefully there just all hype
 

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Kubo has played patty cake with Bleach's power levels ever since Vizards/Arrancars were introduced.

If we go by pure logic, then all of the Vizards should be stronger than all of the Captains (minus the obvious top 4). They're ex-Captains of 100 years which is longer than most of the current Gotei 13 AND they have Hollow powers like Ichigo. But is this the case? No. Kubo's greatest weakness is keeping the power levels consistent. For fcuk sakes Rose lost to that damn Stern Ritter and Tsukishima (a fcuking human) managed to match Byakuya's speed enough to actually cut him. There's tons of other examples but I'm too tired to list them.

So don't any of you be surprised if Kubo wakes up in a few weeks and decides to make Yamamoto look like a god damn 2nd stringer. You can whine and complain all you want but Kubo's shown again and again that he doesn't know what he's doing in regards to who's stronger than who. I'd have protested to this very thought in the past but even I'm starting not to care anymore.
 

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What makes you think 0 division is not stronger than gotie 13...why would juha bach retreat if they were weaker?
He said lets retreat an wait till They get here meaning I'm not gone wait a long time for them to come..

Yamamoto is the strongest line of deffence.

Plus the zero squad wOnt even have to fight everybody the gotei 13 had to cuz Yamamoto got rid of some of them but its still gone be tough knowing they have to fight the strongest an oldest zanpacto so I guess it's even..

It's like a madara an 1st hokage thing..Madara now has the 1st power just like how juha has Yamamoto flames they wer the strongest ever only they can defeat each other..what I'm trying to say is Yamamoto is the only one that could stop juha besides ichigo..zero squad will suffer the same fate as the gotei 13...ichigo is the only hope

Gotei 13>zero squad becuz of Yamamoto.
 
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you cannot say that until you know who are in the 0 division...the last line of defence is always the strongest...yamamoto maybe(MAYBE!!) the strongest, but the 0 division maybe strong together..lets see what happens in the next chapter...enough said!
Lol no Yamamoto is the strongest an everybody knos that..I believe Yamamoto knos every soul reaper like the group he was with 1000 years ago he lead them he was the strongest ever. Enough said
 

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He left the royal gaurd? anyway if he was ever part of them he left to start something new a second line of deffence.
Yes he left the original guard to make the soul academy and gotei 13 and then once that happened central 46 was put in charge of laws for soul society because the soul king is already having to manage the roundabouts of the royal guard and what they have to do. Which is protect the soul king and where it or he is.
 

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you cannot say that until you know who are in the 0 division...the last line of defence is always the strongest...yamamoto maybe(MAYBE!!) the strongest, but the 0 division maybe strong together..lets see what happens in the next chapter...enough said!
It's pointless to argue with him he always say Yamamoto is the strongest and says everyone knows this despite everyone disagreeing with him, but I agree 0 squad must be tough if they where picked to defend the king I mean they wouldn't just choose anyone right.
 

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Yes he left the original guard to make the soul academy and gotei 13 and then once that happened central 46 was put in charge of laws for soul society because the soul king is already having to manage the roundabouts of the royal guard and what they have to do. Which is protect the soul king and where it or he is.
What is the original gaurd cuz kyraku ukitake an unahana are also from the original gaurd? An you say he left to start soul society an kyraku an ukitake are the first captians then how are they fro the original gaurd?
 

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It's pointless to argue with him he always say Yamamoto is the strongest and says everyone knows this despite everyone disagreeing with him, but I agree 0 squad must be tough if they where picked to defend the king I mean they wouldn't just choose anyone right.
He's the oldest soul reaper who's stronger than him?
 

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Zero Division members will be on Kurosaki's level (Mugetsu) and i highly doubt they will send the entire division to soul society and leave the Spirit King Undefended.

I feel zero division has a ranking system similar to the espada, either way its going to insanely epic to see the elite guards in action
 
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