♚(TheTailedSage) Deidara VS Sasori (AkatsukiChurch)♚

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Battle conditions

Location: Sasuke Vs Deidara

Characters: Manga knowledge

Distance: 20m

Restrictions: C0

Intent: Kill

There are currently no judges at the moment however i would like to say if you do happen to be judging, please refrain from being biased because you like a certain characters or debater, i know there are some pretty damn good judges out there so hopefully they come and judge this match. 3 Judges will suffice.

For all our sakes people of NB, no spamming during debating or trolling eh? Lets see this debate till the end and see who the victor will be. As to when the debate will end is undecided.

Feel free to voice your genuine opinions before the debate but any interruptions during the debate will be considered spam.

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Wouldn't mind judging. Would be an interesting debate between you two.
 

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Just stating my opinion on the match up without reasons;

If there's no prep, Sasori wins. If there is prep, Deidara wins.




Metal > Rap

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Just stating my opinion on the match up without reasons;

If there's no prep, Sasori wins. If there is prep, Deidara wins.​

That's where your wrong mate but ill try my best to prove that :) Genuine opinions are always welcomed

Wouldn't mind judging. Would be an interesting debate between you two.

Ill add you to the slots
 

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Even though Deidara is my favorite character, right behind Sasori, I'll have to hand his ass back to him. :b​
 

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Even though Deidara is my favorite character, right behind Sasori, I'll have to hand his ass back to him. :b​

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Sasori shall lose this >: D Do you want to start? or you want me to start
 

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That's where your wrong mate but ill try my best to prove that :) Genuine opinions are always welcomed

Alright; Just to note though, I like Deidara quite a lot more than Sasori.

My song is also a lot more hype for a debate :p
 

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Alright; Just to note though, I like Deidara quite a lot more than Sasori.

My song is also a lot more hype for a debate :p

On some level i think i knew already xD but this should be an interesting debate.

Are you talking about drake??
 

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Are you talking about drake??

I Edited one of my posts with a song because I saw the one you posted xD

I The Breather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drake​
 

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I always thought Deidara's statement about Sasori being superior to him held a valid value since Sasori indeed has the counters to what it takes to take down Deidara (unless Daidare would kill himself), but it could just be a statement for respect the older artist.

Anyway if there are No judges when the debate is over, i can but can't say i volunteer now.


Metal > Rap

Also this.
 

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Posting my Sasori > Deidara thread as an opening which you can counter. ( '_')

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Puppet Show: Act I.: Hiruko


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As usually, Sasori would start out with Hiruko. [ ] While it may seem as an easy task for Deidara to destroy Sasori's Puppet Armor; Hiruko. It's really not an easy task due to the traps that Hiruko has, and lke Chiyo said the most terrifying thing about Puppets are the fact that you can't know what trap will be sprung from where and how. [ ]

One of Hiruko's traps is the Mouth Needles which are extremely hard to dodge. [ ][ ] Now what I would like to say is that Deidara lacks a feat that suggests to us that he can dodge all those needles without getting a single scratch and as we all know when Sasori is your opponent, even a single little scratch can kill you. [ ]

Even if Deidara does indeed manage to evade all the Mouth Needles, I don't see how will he evade Hiruko's Arm Needles. [ ]

Chiyo managed to evade them all due to being a skilled Puppet Master and a Medical Ninja [ ] at the same time. Unlike Chiyo, Deidara isn't a Medical Ninja so he wasn't trained to evade attacks. [ ] Sasori wasn't even surprised at the fact that Chiyo evaded all of his Needles so that means that he expected it. [ ]

As for Sakura, we both know that she managed to evade all the Needles only due to Chiyo who was controlling her. [ ][ ]

Now, I must admit that even though Deidara can't really evade the Needles, he can indeed destroy Hiruko despite Hiruko's strong Shell which Chiyo managed to break only due to using Sakura's strenght. [ ]

You might say that Sasori would be destroyed as well once Deidara blows up Hiruko, but that isn't true because Sasori didn't get destroyed when Sakura, who could crush a giant boulder with her strenght [ ], broke Hiruko with her full strenght. [ ] The same will happen here, Deidara's bomb will blow up Hiruko's Shell and Sasori will jump out. [ ]

Even if the bomb does indeed hit Sasori, it doesn't matter since it can't destroy his body. A C2 Projectile won't destroy his body as well. As long as Sasori keeps his core safe, he will just tank the C1 and C2 bombs just like he tanked Sakura's punch. [ ][ ][ ] A big C2 projectile was only able to blow up Sasuke's wing despite it's explosive power. [ ][ ] Such an attack won't be able to destroy a body that tanked a punch that could destory giant boulders. Not to mention that Sakura's strenght completely destroyed the ground when she attacked Kakashi. [ ]

Once Deidara manages to get Sasori out of his Puppet Armor, the real fight begins. That is if Deidara doesn't die when Sasori uses his Needles.


Puppet Show: Act II.: The Third Kazekage

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Once Hiruko is destroyed, Sasori would undoubtedly use his favourite Puppet; the Third Kazekage [ ] which is the strongest Kazekage if I may add. [ ][ ] Yes, he is even stronger than Gaara. As we all know, the Third Kazekage possesses a Kekkei Genkai called the 'Satetsu'. The Third's Satetsu would undoubtedly help Sasori greatly in this match up due to the fact that it can counter everything Deidara has. You might try and say that Sasori needs time to bring out his Puppet, but that isn't true. Without talking, it only takes a second for a skilled Puppet Master to bring out his Puppet. [ ][ ]

Countering the C1 would be a simple task for Sasori due to the fact that C1 is the weakest form of Deidara's art. They will simply be tanked by the Satetsu just like they were tanked by Gaara's normal Sand. [ ][ ] Sasori can simply envelope himself in a Satetsu Dome just like Gaara would envelope himself in a Sand Dome. [ ]

Deidara's C2 Dragon will also be easily tanked by the Satetsu since the Satetsu is a better defense than Gaara's Sand, which is considered to be the absolute defense by the way [ ], due to the Satetsu being made out of metal unlike normal Sand. [ ] Now may I remind you that Gaara's normal Sand already tanked an explosion [ ][ ][ ] that can be compared to Deidara's C2 Dragon Projectiles. [ ] The Satetsu will be able to tank Deidara's C2 Projectiles.

As for C3, well it was already tanked by Gaara's normal Sand. [ ][ ] However, because of that Gaara was left tired and so Deidara managed to finish him off [ ] , but as we both know Sasori is a Puppet so he never gets tired. [ ] Because of that, Sasori will be able to tank the C3 with the Satetsu and he won't get tired. If you think that Sasori won't have enough of sand to tank the C3 then you're wrong since Sasori already displayed the abillity to increase the amount of his Satetsu. [ ] He was able to create huge Satetsu shapes [ ] out of just that little amount of sand that came out of the 3rd Kazekage's mouths. [ ]

Now that I have established how Satetsu would counter almost all techniques that Deidara has in his arsenal, Sasori would need to start off his attack.

To start off, Sasori would first need to take flight just like Deidara. [ ] He can simply make the Kazekage grow Satetsu Wings [ ] and then he can proceed to make any shape out of Satetsu that he desires and take flight. [ ] Now I would like to point out that Deidara won't be faster than Sasori while in the air due to the Satetsu being able to break the sound barrier with it's speed. [ ] This also means that Deidara won't be able to evade Sasori's Satetsu attacks just like Chiyo and Sakura couldn't. [ ] Another thing to mention is that Gaara's normal Sand already managed to hit Deidara despite the fact that Deidara was flying on his C1 bird. [ ][ ] If that was Sasori's Satetsu, Deidara's body would have been numb due to poison.

It's even worse for Deidara if he is on his C2 Dragon and not on his C1 bird since that Dragon isn't really fast. [ ] Not only would Deidara be an easier target for the Satetsu, Sasori can also slice of the Dragon's wings with Satetsu [ ][ ] just like Sasuke did with his Chidori. [ ]

One more thing that I should add is that Deidara has no counters for the Satetsu World Order. [ ] He can't fly off because the spikes are raining down on him while he can't go left or right due to the fact that the spikes will go left and right as well. [ ] You can clearly see that Sakura said ''It's going everywhere!''.

One scratch [ ] from any of Sasori's Satetsu attacks and it's over for Deidara due to the poison [ ] that would make his body numb. [ ]

To add a bonus, Deidara's clay bags have a metallic zipper so there is a possibility that Sasori can take the bags from Deidara with the Sandaime Kazekage's Magnetism. [ ]



Puppet Show: Act III.: The Dance of the One Hundred Puppets

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Now if by some miracle, Deidara manages to destroy the Kazekage Puppet without getting a single scratch, he will be slaughtered by the One Hundred Puppets [ ] which Sasori used to wipe out a whole country. [ ] These Puppets will completely overwhelm Deidara just like they overwhelmed Sakura. [ ] It's true that Deidara can destroy some of them by using C1 bombs, but like Chiyo said there are too many Puppets to destroy. [ ] Deidara can cover only one side while he'll be open for attacks from all other sides. The fact that Sasori likes to make these Puppets surround the opponent doesn't make it easier for Deidara. [ ] To be honest I can't see how Deidara will survive if Sasori decides to surround Deidara with his Puppets and then attack him from all sides.

If Deidara is on the C2 Dragon while the One Hundred Puppets are in play, it may destroy more Puppets, but again there are simply too much of them and Deidara has to create his bombs first [ ] while the One Hundred Puppets are faster than the Third Kazekage Puppet [ ] due to the fact there is no time lag [ ] since the Puppets are directly connected to Sasori's core instead of Sasori's fingers. [ ] And even when Sasori controls Puppets with his fingers, they are extremely fast. [ ][ ]

To counter Deidara's C3 won't be so hard since Deidara needs some time to prepare it. However, the only way to make Sasori wait until he completes the bomb is to use Clay Clones to keep him occupied. However, Deidara has only shown to make one or two Clay Clones at a time. [ ][ ][ ] It's a matter of time before Sasori finishes off the clones and may I say that the clones can only keep some of the Puppets occupied. Sasori can send the rest to attack the real Deidara who can't defend himself due to using his hands to shape the C3. Basically Sasori will keep on pushing Deidara so he won't be able to complete C3.

Let me mention that Deidara has a limited supply of clay [ ] and as we have seen, Deidara needs to use a lot of clay to create the C3.
One more thing to add is that if Deidara wants to get to Sasori, he will need to take care of this technique about three times since Sasori has nearly three hundred Puppets. [ ] Unlike Sasori, Deidara is still a Human so he would drop dead before he even gets to Sasori due to using up all of his Chakra. [ ] Also these Puppets are no fodders since Sasori prefers quality over quantity. [ ]

The only reason why Chiyo's Puppets were able to compete with Sasori's One Hundred Puppets was because Chiyo's Puppets are able to take down a whole Castle [ ], but in the end even those Puppets were overwhelmed by Sasori's Puppets. [ ][ ] Also let's not forget that Sasori becomes more focused when he has less Puppets.

Now to completely counter Deidara's final technique;C4 is an easy task. In order for the C4 to kill someone, that someone has to breathe in the nano bombs first. [ ] However, this is means that C4 is useless here due to Sasori being a Puppet [ ][ ] who only has a core and lacks lungs. [ ] Since Sasori has no lungs and doesn't have to breathe, the C4 won't be able to enter his core.

 
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I always thought Deidara's statement about Sasori being superior to him held a valid value since Sasori indeed has the counters to what it takes to take down Deidara (unless Daidare would kill himself), but it could just be a statement for respect the older artist.

Anyway if there are No judges when the debate is over, i can but can't say i volunteer now.

Also this.

Ill add you for now :) and Drakes a new breed of rapper m8

I Edited one of my posts with a song because I saw the one you posted xD

I The Breather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Drake​

Someone has a death wish :D

OT: im replying now AC
 

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Posting my Sasori > Deidara thread as an opening which you can counter. ( '_')

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Puppet Show: Act I.: Hiruko


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As usually, Sasori would start out with Hiruko. [ ] While it may seem as an easy task for Deidara to destroy Sasori's Puppet Armor; Hiruko. It's really not an easy task due to the traps that Hiruko has, and lke Chiyo said the most terrifying thing about Puppets are the fact that you can't know what trap will be sprung from where and how. [ ]

One of Hiruko's traps is the Mouth Needles which are extremely hard to dodge. [ ][ ] Now what I would like to say is that Deidara lacks a feat that suggests to us that he can dodge all those needles without getting a single scratch and as we all know when Sasori is your opponent, even a single little scratch can kill you. [ ]

Even if Deidara does indeed manage to evade all the Mouth Needles, I don't see how will he evade Hiruko's Arm Needles. [ ]

Chiyo managed to evade them all due to being a skilled Puppet Master and a Medical Ninja [ ] at the same time. Unlike Chiyo, Deidara isn't a Medical Ninja so he wasn't trained to evade attacks. [ ] Sasori wasn't even surprised at the fact that Chiyo evaded all of his Needles so that means that he expected it. [ ]

As for Sakura, we both know that she managed to evade all the Needles only due to Chiyo who was controlling her. [ ][ ]

Now, I must admit that even though Deidara can't really evade the Needles, he can indeed destroy Hiruko despite Hiruko's strong Shell which Chiyo managed to break only due to using Sakura's strenght. [ ]

You might say that Sasori would be destroyed as well once Deidara blows up Hiruko, but that isn't true because Sasori didn't get destroyed when Sakura, who could crush a giant boulder with her strenght [ ], broke Hiruko with her full strenght. [ ] The same will happen here, Deidara's bomb will blow up Hiruko's Shell and Sasori will jump out. [ ]

Even if the bomb does indeed hit Sasori, it doesn't matter since it can't destroy his body. A C2 Projectile won't destroy his body as well. As long as Sasori keeps his core safe, he will just tank the C1 and C2 bombs just like he tanked Sakura's punch. [ ][ ][ ] A big C2 projectile was only able to blow up Sasuke's wing despite it's explosive power. [ ][ ] Such an attack won't be able to destroy a body that tanked a punch that could destory giant boulders. Not to mention that Sakura's strenght completely destroyed the ground when she attacked Kakashi. [ ]

Once Deidara manages to get Sasori out of his Puppet Armor, the real fight begins. That is if Deidara doesn't die when Sasori uses his Needles.


Puppet Show: Act II.: The Third Kazekage

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Once Hiruko is destroyed, Sasori would undoubtedly use his favourite Puppet; the Third Kazekage [ ] which is the strongest Kazekage if I may add. [ ][ ] Yes, he is even stronger than Gaara. As we all know, the Third Kazekage possesses a Kekkei Genkai called the 'Satetsu'. The Third's Satetsu would undoubtedly help Sasori greatly in this match up due to the fact that it can counter everything Deidara has. You might try and say that Sasori needs time to bring out his Puppet, but that isn't true. Without talking, it only takes a second for a skilled Puppet Master to bring out his Puppet. [ ][ ]

Countering the C1 would be a simple task for Sasori due to the fact that C1 is the weakest form of Deidara's art. They will simply be tanked by the Satetsu just like they were tanked by Gaara's normal Sand. [ ][ ] Sasori can simply envelope himself in a Satetsu Dome just like Gaara would envelope himself in a Sand Dome. [ ]

Deidara's C2 Dragon will also be easily tanked by the Satetsu since the Satetsu is a better defense than Gaara's Sand, which is considered to be the absolute defense by the way [ ], due to the Satetsu being made out of metal unlike normal Sand. [ ] Now may I remind you that Gaara's normal Sand already tanked an explosion [ ][ ][ ] that can be compared to Deidara's C2 Dragon Projectiles. [ ] The Satetsu will be able to tank Deidara's C2 Projectiles.

As for C3, well it was already tanked by Gaara's normal Sand. [ ][ ] However, because of that Gaara was left tired and so Deidara managed to finish him off [ ] , but as we both know Sasori is a Puppet so he never gets tired. [ ] Because of that, Sasori will be able to tank the C3 with the Satetsu and he won't get tired. If you think that Sasori won't have enough of sand to tank the C3 then you're wrong since Sasori already displayed the abillity to increase the amount of his Satetsu. [ ] He was able to create huge Satetsu shapes [ ] out of just that little amount of sand that came out of the 3rd Kazekage's mouths. [ ]

Now that I have established how Satetsu would counter almost all techniques that Deidara has in his arsenal, Sasori would need to start off his attack.

To start off, Sasori would first need to take flight just like Deidara. [ ] He can simply make the Kazekage grow Satetsu Wings [ ] and then he can proceed to make any shape out of Satetsu that he desires and take flight. [ ] Now I would like to point out that Deidara won't be faster than Sasori while in the air due to the Satetsu being able to break the sound barrier with it's speed. [ ] This also means that Deidara won't be able to evade Sasori's Satetsu attacks just like Chiyo and Sakura couldn't. [ ] Another thing to mention is that Gaara's normal Sand already managed to hit Deidara despite the fact that Deidara was flying on his C1 bird. [ ][ ] If that was Sasori's Satetsu, Deidara's body would have been numb due to poison.

It's even worse for Deidara if he is on his C2 Dragon and not on his C1 bird since that Dragon isn't really fast. [ ] Not only would Deidara be an easier target for the Satetsu, Sasori can also slice of the Dragon's wings with Satetsu [ ][ ] just like Sasuke did with his Chidori. [ ]

One more thing that I should add is that Deidara has no counters for the Satetsu World Order. [ ] He can't fly off because the spikes are raining down on him while he can't go left or right due to the fact that the spikes will go left and right as well. [ ] You can clearly see that Sakura said ''It's going everywhere!''.

One scratch [ ] from any of Sasori's Satetsu attacks and it's over for Deidara due to the poison [ ] that would make his body numb. [ ]

To add a bonus, Deidara's clay bags have a metallic zipper so there is a possibility that Sasori can take the bags from Deidara with the Sandaime Kazekage's Magnetism. [ ]



Puppet Show: Act III.: The Dance of the One Hundred Puppets

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Now if by some miracle, Deidara manages to destroy the Kazekage Puppet without getting a single scratch, he will be slaughtered by the One Hundred Puppets [ ] which Sasori used to wipe out a whole country. [ ] These Puppets will completely overwhelm Deidara just like they overwhelmed Sakura. [ ] It's true that Deidara can destroy some of them by using C1 bombs, but like Chiyo said there are too many Puppets to destroy. [ ] Deidara can cover only one side while he'll be open for attacks from all other sides. The fact that Sasori likes to make these Puppets surround the opponent doesn't make it easier for Deidara. [ ] To be honest I can't see how Deidara will survive if Sasori decides to surround Deidara with his Puppets and then attack him from all sides.

If Deidara is on the C2 Dragon while the One Hundred Puppets are in play, it may destroy more Puppets, but again there are simply too much of them and Deidara has to create his bombs first [ ] while the One Hundred Puppets are faster than the Third Kazekage Puppet [ ] due to the fact there is no time lag [ ] since the Puppets are directly connected to Sasori's core instead of Sasori's fingers. [ ] And even when Sasori controls Puppets with his fingers, they are extremely fast. [ ][ ]

To counter Deidara's C3 won't be so hard since Deidara needs some time to prepare it. However, the only way to make Sasori wait until he completes the bomb is to use Clay Clones to keep him occupied. However, Deidara has only shown to make one or two Clay Clones at a time. [ ][ ][ ] It's a matter of time before Sasori finishes off the clones and may I say that the clones can only keep some of the Puppets occupied. Sasori can send the rest to attack the real Deidara who can't defend himself due to using his hands to shape the C3. Basically Sasori will keep on pushing Deidara so he won't be able to complete C3.

Let me mention that Deidara has a limited supply of clay [ ] and as we have seen, Deidara needs to use a lot of clay to create the C3.
One more thing to add is that if Deidara wants to get to Sasori, he will need to take care of this technique about three times since Sasori has nearly three hundred Puppets. [ ] Unlike Sasori, Deidara is still a Human so he would drop dead before he even gets to Sasori due to using up all of his Chakra. [ ] Also these Puppets are no fodders since Sasori prefers quality over quantity. [ ]

The only reason why Chiyo's Puppets were able to compete with Sasori's One Hundred Puppets was because Chiyo's Puppets are able to take down a whole Castle [ ], but in the end even those Puppets were overwhelmed by Sasori's Puppets. [ ][ ] Also let's not forget that Sasori becomes more focused when he has less Puppets.

Now to completely counter Deidara's final technique;C4 is an easy task. In order for the C4 to kill someone, that someone has to breathe in the nano bombs first. [ ] However, this is means that C4 is useless here due to Sasori being a Puppet [ ][ ] who only has a core and lacks lungs. [ ] Since Sasori has no lungs and doesn't have to breathe, the C4 won't be able to enter his core.


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Hiruko


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Hiruko

Those damn needles

First of all your assuming Deidara doesn't dodge the needles when Clay is of that material to block the thin brittle needles. Deidara has already shown to show good initative and evasion to get on his mount if need be So the needles aren't really a factor. Keeping in mind Gaaras sand was close by, he has the chance in this match to
A. jump on his bird and fly
B. Block them with the clay rendering them useless.

It is also a manga fact that Deidara on the bird is extremely fast able to rival the Tisukage in flight and its Signature for Deidara to start with the bird in all of his battles since its more agile and efficient Using the dragon any time soon in the match is a waste of chakra and clay, he only used it in Sasuke fight because of his arrogance to defeat a Uchiha. These mentioned feats alone are more than capable to handle needles with ease.

You speak of Sasoris traps but you forget about Deidaras deceitful tactics By using subtle yet effective tactics like this Deidara too has enough tricks and traps up his own sleeve. ill mention a bit more of this later on in this counter.

The shell that is Hiruko

Now you may say That it cant destroy Hiruko but your analogy is flawed because during that fight Sasuke protected himself with his wings, although he didn't want to he ended up doing this anyway. The first time he got out of it Deirdara knew he dodged it " " . Looking at the This is more than capable than taking out Hiruko as the blast would rival to that of Sakuras Punches, presumably even more destructive. By the time Sasori has jumped out, by using the smoke Deidara can then Use a clay clone in place of himself if he should need to restock on clay or devise a strategy/trap/tactic.


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(Assuming he isn't blown up after leaving Hiruko) Here's where ive been wanting to get to! First off im going to say If Sasori does happen to envelope himself in the Iron sand he then risks the chance of not knowing whats going on outside of that little dome leaving deidara to do what ever the hell he wants, he can send a C1 or C2 bomb after him because once he's blocked that original attack that caused him to make the dome in the first place, Deidara has that smoke as an advantage. he can:
1. drop a couple decoy bombs to make sasori think attacks are still going on and then use a Clay clone to go up close and go behind the dome so that when sasori released the dome the clone can explode.
2. Prepare for a more devastating attack. Maybe even a C2 dragon if he needs to

The sand when breaking the sound barrier is extremely linear and because of this Deidara has a chance of dodging it with his speed feats. Sasori hasn't been shown to spam this and has only used it once. Not to mention he has only used small portions of Iron sand while breaking that sound barrier. If Chiyo was able to react to the sand that means its not impossible to dodge this or block it. It doesn't start as sound breaking speed it goes into it a few seconds after deployment which is giving Deidara time to dodge the linear iron sand attack. Not saying it will be easy however Deidara has the means to do so.

May i also remind you that Gaara was only able to block that attack because of the special gourd sand which makes it . this scan you showed me is saying that the gourd sand is the absolute defence as it then showed in the next panel. [X] Deidara had clocked onto the special sand soon enough and how hi shand got crushed but as his hand got taken off he devised a plan and wasn't scared to sacrifice his arm.He was hyped to be the best Kazekage. Since the Iron sand isn't abundant like Gaaras sand he's either going to be blocking or attacking, he doesn't have the right amount of sand to necessarily do both to the best of his ability. Doing iron forest takes up his entire supply of sand. If it wasn't, then the Kazekage wouldn't have attacked after physically but he did. It is this which will be his downfall because once he has then gone for the kill by this time Deidara could have already sent out a clay clone to replace him. After all Deidara will be in the air and it would take the sand some time to actually reach up to him. By reaching up to him by this time he's made a clone. Just like how Sakura punched him ass Sasori fell for the bluff and assumed she was poisoned, This will happen with the clone and as the puppet goes to strike he detonates the Clone thus destroying Kazekage puppet. He would by this time have no more sand to defend himself and Sasori is wide open.

Oh yeah, and about C3, Deidara has only used Clones, at max, twice but look how much clay a C2 dragon takes up or a C2 projectile. He has more than enough clay to produce more than two but Deidara hasn't been able to use more than two because he didn't get the opportunity to do so. Sasori isn't going to know they are clay clones and like i keep saying the dust/smoke cloud is what's going to help Deidara prepare or collect clay. Detonating that clone is only going to help Deidara. You have neglected Deidaras speed feats while on the bird, Deidara doesn't have to remain still while preparing Bombs, his hand has to remain in the bag so it can mould it. C3 is no bigger than a C2 Dragon. pouring in the necessary chakra isn't going to take as long as you think. Remember Deidaras intention at the Sand village was to capture. It hasn't to destroy the village. It seemed long because the fight was going on for a while. Gaara was exhausted from the attack because of the amount of chakra he used to tank C3.

Kazekage wont be tired but Sasori will since he has used all the iron sand available and a large amount of chakra in order to block it. Assuming he knows how powerful C3 actually is. He doesn't have enough Iron sand to block it. refer back too my Kazekage destruction point if you want refresh yourself on how he hasn't got that much sand. Your assuming that Deidara is going to keep something so sluggish like C2 on the field for that long and use to to get around. Like i said many times he uses the bird since its his more agile animal form. Not to mention Gaara Had the whole deserts sand at his disposal. Kazekage puppet cant make a dome that big with the limited supply of sand he has.

Since the Iron sand isn't abundant like Gaaras sand he's either going to be blocking or attacking, he doesn't have the right amount of sand to necessarily do both to the best of his ability.

Doing iron forest takes up his entire supply of sand, I'm using the scans you have provided.

As for the Zipper im not going to say its not possible but Sasori would have to fist of all know it has a zipper.



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Im going to start my saying that these particular puppets only have number over their enemy, in terms of skill they are featless they only have the intent to kill on nothing else. As you said Chiyo said there are too many not once did she mention feats. So its the number that is impressive here not skill.

This jutsu requires prep long enough for Deidara to strike. No way is Deidara letting Sasori bring out his trump card like that. HE will do his up most best with C1+2 bombs to both hurt him and prevent him from doing the jutsu. Of course on the side that the puppets are summoned Deidara out menouvers them. If he were to flying high enough they would all rush after hi in a straight line giving him the perfect shot to take out a huge quantity of them at the same time. Since sassori cant focus on all puppets and is technically not using his fingers to co-ordinate them See here how they all rush at one target?? well in this battle Deidara is the only target The blast radius of C2 is enough to wipe out most of them. And we saw Him use 2 mini C2 bombs in Sasuke fight PLUS the dragon itself. C3 is an absolute last resort. Lets also remember even though the less puppets there are the more sasori is focused they are still going to be focused on Deidara and Deidara has projectiles to take care of them. its not like they the bombs can be destroyed. We both know only Raiton can diffuse them. so the effort to chop them are useless.

Let me just bring up the fact that While Sasori Is focused on the puppets Deidara can easily leave a couple stray birds to attack sasori like he did on gaara. and the sand ninja (There concentration is not on the bird now is it) If his concentration is on the puppets alone hes done for. Its already been shown he cant do much when control them; especially against fast jutsu

The other 298 puppets are featless and therefore have no part in this battle.
 

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TTS will win because Sasori is weak giving TTS the automatic win.
 

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Deidara nukes Sasori's pathetic dolls.
 

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TTS will win because Sasori is weak giving TTS the automatic win.

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