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Give me your reasons and ill give you mine. For you: There is nothing i can do against the the strength and power of a lion . . . that's why i would not challenge a lion in a cage match. Instead, i would get a gun and shoot the lion from a distance. Question: Does Zabuza have a gun that...

Where to begin? I wisish fellow once said: "Let's start with the Truth, because it gets you in the end". So I'm gonna start with the end. Why? Because Truth is not mere fact, but fact with relevance. When you are talking about about whether you like James Bond or not and someone asks you to be...

What do you mean by arbitrary? From my understanding, arbitrary means man-made and unnecessary. Well, the topic we are discussing . . . ? So i dont get the meaning of this point. Everything is based on assumption, literally everything. So unless you can show that its a weak assumption...

Thanks man

Naruto beat SPoP as a genin, if you wanna use ranks . . . 1603857547 And Konohamaru was also a genin when he beat Hell Path . . . Choji was a chunin when he pushed back the Heretic Statue . . . Tenten was a chunin when she beat Kakuzu . . . Ino and Hinata were chunin when they literally saved...

Hard disagree on both accounts. But first, how is Zabuza "barely" S-rank if he troubled an army unit led by Kakashi who himself is S-rank? 1603856885 Think about this: The 5th Hokage, who knew of Uchiha powers, and Jiraiya, who knew of Akatsuki powers, thought that a team of 8 would be enough...

There's two topics: >The first is a proper fight between the two of them >The second is their general level of ability I dont really mind either way, but im just looking to say that there is some arguement to be had. That the two characters are not worlds apart from each other. For the fight...

And if i didnt tag, Avani would say im talking behind their back. @Avani Please stay out of my threads. Don't worry, I'll watch my tags in the future

The way i see it, Itachi can't properly defeat the Hidden Mist Technique. Even in general, Zabuza can threaten an army unit because of it while Itachi is notorious for using techniques that he can't maintain for long. So there is at least a discussion to be had

Interesting . . . . What of Itachi and Zabuza?

Even if not, i wouldn't blame you since it is logical to connect the thread to other issues. But thanks

Nope, i assure you. On my honour, this is for healthier discussion and community engagement.

Because of counters or levels difference? (I disagree, either way, but to focus the discussion . . . )

First of all, i haven't even checked to see if i actually said that. That's because this isn't to continue that nasty episode with @Avani. This is just to say that even if Avani wasnt strawmanning me as per habit, its not all that bad. See, i wouldnt blame most people if they read that post...