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I guess Phoenix is a poor attempt to try and steal his thunder xD.

Trust me I know I have always wondered this, long before Joaquin Phoneix Joker came out. I'm not interested in a debate about that. It's more like trying to get inspiration, like how do I process, Heath Leadger's portrayal. You say he had charisma, I can understand that I think I have met...

I never understood why people loved his Joker so much, like I keep watching that movie trying to understand but it goes over my head. Was it cus he was sort of like a moriarty to sherlock holmes?