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I really want to see the people who claim one yonko crew = all marines + warlords. it was never claimed in this thread. The collective yonko(all 4) are stronger than marines alone is the point that was discussed. Also marines are at a disadvantage not that they are weak, they have to...

the balance is them allied = the yonko that is the balance garp literally said in the manga, you have to find the proof otherwise boy. he didnt say they are all equal. there is no use of the word advantage, he said balance. no i am literally going by what garp said and what was reinforced by...

i never said that one yonko = hq + warlords. my statement: " they act together to limit the yonko, this is supported by the war against white beard" but what you took was that me trying highlight wb pirates' performance. LMAOOO nice atleast you are consistently misinterpreting things its not a...

marineford represents who's allied with who not that one yonko = hq + warlords. that dominance means nothing especially considering the state of wb himself. i cant believe i have to explain something as basic as this. i meant if the collective yonko beat akainu and two VA's. that wouldnt prove...

Lol warped understanding of the manga seems to be your thing. All 3 groups are not equal and Garp would like to disagree with you on that. What does wb pirates performance have to do with anything, it’s only one yonko. It’s like taking akainu and two vice admirals and make them face off against...

Yeah do you need a definition of ally as well? In this context that means they are working towards a common goal which is to limit the Yonko. Lol yea balance = advantage to marines. This level of fanboyism is toxic you are directly going against what the manga has stated repeatedly. The...

Who said all factions are equal. Two of the factions are allies. Did the warlords side with WB in the war??? Again I guess we should take your word over the author who used garp and bran new as the medium to deliver that message. no stop with the mental gymnastics to try to justify your point...

Pawns??? lol the warlords are the ones benefitting the most and undermining the justice of the navy. I am not speculating, brannew and garp mentioned it. But again you want to go with your interpretation Chapter 432 is where garp literally mentioned this and so did brannew in the latest...

I am saying even after doffy was found out, Akainu did not want to abolish the system because they are not in a position of strength. And crocodile’s treason was found out way before. The Wg has a backup in SSg which is what they are putting their “faith” in. Again they are repeatedly shown to...

You say this a lot but all the chapters indicate that they want balance not an advantage. Unless the definition of balance in Japan is different, what you’re saying makes no sense. And yes they do marines technically have more top tiers and still need to hire “criminals” to counter other...

After the recent set of chapters it seems more and more evidence is pointing in the direction that admiral = yonko believed by some is false. They are close but not equal imo. Until now it’s repeated over and over again that they need the warlords to counter the yonko. Now they are hoping the...

All of that wouldn’t have been enough if roger decided to team up with rocks. But even with that not being the case odds are against the marines. The reason the event wasn’t more publicized was because the greatest pirate to ever live decided to help out. also we can’t assume there’s two...

Most people knew that garp was legendary, this chapter just made it even more clear that he was the strongest marine ever. However it seems like pirates still have the most amount of legendary fighters. The government needed the pirate king to stand a chance

Yea the thing is law with his ability is super op and should be the best supernova but there are weird restrictions like how he can’t hurt doffy as easily etc like if someone is close or above him in armament haki maybe. I think it would be a high diff fight

Zoro barely fought Hawkins so it’s hard to say and imo he had the upper hand and a handicap. But law is likely stronger but not a better swordsman

Exactly honestly with luffys grand fleet and jimbei. Luffy’s crew is arguably stronger than the Hawkins + apoo + kidd trio pirate alliance

Wb’s crew and shikis crew seem more of a match to roger than these super nova crews relative to the straw hats

From the latest chapter it seems like Oda made the strawhat crew the dominant crew from the supernova crews. If zoro can beat killer after a freebie that killer got, it makes the other crews look weak. Add sanji and possibly jimbei and the other crews don’t look like they are in the running for...

Killer was knocked out as well and zoro outlasted him. You being distracted means death in sword battles, so zoro having to worry about a guy who’s trying to kill from behind is a big deal. I don’t think zoro is leagues above Sanji I just think he’s stronger, what others say about zoro isn’t...

Killer went down first, and zoro only got hit by killer because the bandit tried to hit him from behind. So essentially killer got a free hit but still went down first.