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they suck Basition's current ability was once just a ultimate, kinda shows how the ultimates are not much better then the standard abilties and honestly it's better then his current ultimate in every way Hanzo's is honestly the worse he has a dialogue line practically announcing the move...

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I disagree afterall a fox couldt overpower a baby whale or baby elephant just cause it's more mature right?? or a adult cockroach beat a baby lion just cause the former is more mature

both are about the size of a adult domestic cat so thought it was fair who would win

anime versions

beyond being apart of the same clan as kaguya and being able to shrink things I cant really say what makes him special