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@3AM And I never asked what was the purpose of the rubble, I told you to prove to me that the rubble that he effortlessly held in the air was a hindrance to him in that fight. You can't prove to me that it was just like I thought because like I said, there's nothing implied or stated that it...

@3AM I believe Luffy should be very comparable to Old Ray right now or at least by the time this arc is over in strength. At this point it’s probably better to say at the end of this arc as he hasn’t fought any one noteworthy to even test his CoA out. - It’s been shown that Yonko commanders can...

Man I agree 100%, and I really believe Oda dropped the ball with Kaido vs Oden, Odens feats are so all over the place. It almost feels like an insult to put him as a low Top Tier but Oda isn’t always linear with power scaling. Yonko level almost feels like where he belongs but at the same time...

That’s all got to do with his Prime Strength and his fame with the Roger Pirates. He’s been retired for 20 years and was never found or captured, to them he could have gotten stronger or weaker within that time frame. But that’s why precautions were needed as before disbanding he was already an...

Kinda confused at what you mean with the Kata and Luffy part. Are you saying that Luffy is still just YC1 level now? If so, I don’t see why that would be the case, especially not if Zoro is going to take on a YC1 this arc. If Zoro is one level then Luffy is a level above. So in this case if...

I disagree and theirs a lot of exaggerating within this post. First off, -Kizaru never said anything about Old Ray being an Admiral level threat, he acknowledged him as a strong individual but he never said such thing. Not saying Old Ray isn’t an Admiral level threat, but this argument can’t...

Can you gone into some detail please lol I’m bored I need some discussing loool.

Hmm what diff you going with? And Is this pre or post Kaido fight? I don’t agree with your some of what you said and here’s why: -I would consider fighting a prolonged battle with a Yonko and the WSC pretty damn good experience. -He can know what Luffy can do... but that doesn’t mean he can...

Having mastered both Advanced CoO and Advanced CoA, how does the future PK stack up to his master currently? My take: this is an interesting match up, Luffy has mastered both Haki forms and the only one he hasn’t mastered is CoC, Ray has those mastered too and probably had advanced CoC...

I think a lot of people are taking Odens feats and acting like no one else can replicate some of the things he did which I think is completely untrue. And I have some good evidence cuz a lot of OP fans don’t like thinking with their brains they just like to wank characters and fanboy all the...

Do you mean on Prime WB and Roger level? I seriously doubt that. I see a lot of people on other forums putting Oden on Prime Rayleigh Level. But I fail to see how Oden is going to be that freaking strong and then just get hit upside the head by Kaido and lose. And a weaker Kaido then the one...

Man I was just thinking this, but I guess Kaido really must have caused him to lose his cool, cause he is due to be a lot more competitive next round. And Kaido is due to get some good hits in as well. It’s crazy to comprehend, like is Kaidos club supposed to be something really special or is...

Fair enough, what you said about his defense is certainly plausible. There’s so much unknown about Oden vs Kaido. There’s so many questions but very few answers, we don’t know if Kaido had a hybrid form at the time, an awakening, we don’t even know how strong he was compared to other top tiers...

Why would Kaido get stronger in one aspect of fighting and not the other? If his offense is better it’s because his Haki is better, and if his Haki is better his defense would have to be better too. Also Kaido is buffer now than he was back then, indicating he isn’t quite the same guy he was...

Im saying not quite cause we have no idea how strong Kaido was 20 years ago. Everything seems to point to him getting a decent deal stronger. Him and Oden could have been old Rayleigh level 20 years ago and still be beast, as even an old Rayleigh could hold his own with an Admiral. Them two...

Let’s be real here the man was a beast, clashing with a Prime WB and Roger, and then nearly one shotting Kaido 20 years ago. He has feats and Hype better than just about every character in the series. Even though he most definitely isn’t the strongest character in the series. How strong was...

Is it just me or did this chapter massively dehype Kaido.... like I know it was 20 years ago but still... you mean to tell me Oda hyped up Kaido to be unbeatable in a 1v1 but Oden nearly handed him his ass?? And to make matters worse he only won by a cheap shot? Oda what the hell... so this is...

I like the way you think, Wano Luffy should be an absolute monster if we consider all these creative ways he can utilize his forms with his greatly enhanced Haki.

I wasn’t picking on you I was just asking you why people think this way. It’s literally the same with Marco it’s like people will accept that small sample size between Marco/Kizaru to justify why Marco is superior to everyone else and is Admiral level but Luffy can’t be ahead no matter what...

I don’t see why people can’t accept the fact that Luffy will surpass Sabo. Like it’s got to happen at some point, Sabo is getting stronger too I get that but eventually as the future PK he has to pull away from his brother. It’s like no matter what he does, people will still put Sabo and Marco...