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That specific panel says he scales above the first two, but what says he specifically does not scale above Gaara? Your claim needs evidence. In terms of my claim, we are also told that Iron Sand is the greatest weapon in the history of the Sand village, which directly puts the 3rd above Gaara...

Kimimaro should be able to solo. Guren has the superior power, being abe to crystallise anything solid or liquid, but Kimimaro has superior scaling on all sides. Guren fought with Kakashi and he held his own for a while through physical skills, so her general speed does not go above V1 level...

The splitting ability of the brothers should be a perfect counter to poison, but it has to be consciously activated so it is possible to blitz them. In terms of scaling, Sasori dealt with a Kazekage superior to Gaara using practically the same powers, so with that version of Gaara being able to...

Baiting Naruto and lying do not necessarily come together. The baiting point, which we agree on, gives work-around for the strength point, but does not deal with it directly. On your side, do you think Sasori is not stronger?

What circular reasoning? I never said they all the exact same level. I ended my post by pointing out that Nagato and Itachi showed weaker cases than the others. That means they are at different levels relative to each other. You are continuously saying things that do not follow the discussion...

Assumption. He can make weapons, why not bigger ones?

The dog is a hard counter to physical fighters. Assuming Kin will not use any un-shown Rinnegan or Byakugan abilities, then he spends a long time on the dog. A combination of the dog and explosive traps from the Machine Path can kill him. Giving him any eye abilities will allow him to quickly...

Does not correlate. Some being better than others does not contradict what I said to fulfill your refutation Does not correlate to the discussion Mixed up your replies? If not, I did not say anything about them travelling in pairs and even if I did we have seen them travel thusly Debatable...

1655719311 You say? Hidan showcased in-battle, untrained, strategy against Yugito and Asuma Kakuzu did the same against a team including Shikamaru, Kakashi and two Hidden Technique users Sasori successfully planned against the 3rd Kazekage who is his worst counter Deidara showcased strategy...

You're not the first to mix up the abbreviations Your take on the fight?

Assuming that the slug is restricted and Sakura is not overpowered in scaling, then environmental control is a great counter to physical attacks.

With the physical might of Manda, the attacks of Bunta and the acid of Katsuyu, they should make it through all of them. Tye only difficulties will be Kokuo, who would heavily injure Manda with a horn and Kurama, likewise with a bite. Should Manda heal, then theyake it through. If Manda does...

The team achieved that with Kinshiki only using physical attacks. Sasuke matched Kinshiki in that regard, while also having superior intelligence and many other scale-breaking powers with his eyes. I struggle to see the team winning.

Title says SPoP, not SoSP Sure, but even assuming that would work on Hidan, how would he achieve it?

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Why would it be Hagaromo? At least read up on the replies so far ...

Indeed. So I put his MS energy above CM2 but not double or triple in strength because it is not added onto it.

Why not? The advantage of being immortal - an absolute designation - is being able to take many things. The powers of Nagato must be proven to be able to take down Hidan, not the other way around. Hidan also has the advantage of only needing to kill the bodies of the paths, not directly...

Why not outlast? He is literally immortal and without moulding any, the paths cannot absorb composite energy from him. Why not outsmart? He displayed healthy caution against Yugito and even besides that was a capable Jonin before gaining his immortality. Of course speed is needed as no action...

Two parts here - intelligence and abilities In intelligence, it seems like Shikamaru barely figured it out with backup (like Izumo and Kotetsu landing the first strike) against Hidan messing around. To me, Nagato being close to Shikamaru is not a problem, but to figure out Hidan who is serious...