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ur obviously cranky so let me iliterate for you in a nice way. You may know what he said but only he knows what me meant weather ur right or not. Doesnt matter how mch studying on a move you do, a missunderstaning is still a missunderstanding. And I stick by what I said. Just cause EMS Sasuke...

Srsly... No one replyed to my amateratsu or genjutsu posts, ive already givin a bunch of reasons they wont work, u guys ignoring that? Lol + kirin... Srsly, IF he can make clouds wile fighting pain without looking like hes gonna use them (im a regular human, no were near on track with the mental...

Pain vs kisame... No match unless u think might guy can beat pain as well. Naruto had help. Nagato had his eyes before he met tobi, he awoke them to protect yhico which is the person whos leggs got broken - dont make fun of people

1. He wasnt saying he needed orochimaru's power, he was saying he needed extra power which just so happened to be orochimaru's ATM. Not saying hes right but theres no need to be so harsh. 2. Srsly, amatatsu can be delt with, you ignore my posts? Ur right about them avoiding it tho... 3. U just...

I like this, its well put and acurate :ice: I only dissagree on 2 things, 1. Ive talked about several reasons why sasukes genjutsu may not work. No one has replyed to it so im guessing I made a ok point. And if the others caught fire it could still be delt with and if the healing pain were to be...

Also, well we ever get to sasukes deffences to pains attacks. I mean if he cant kill pain right off the bat, then can he exaust him? I mean to be honest, if Sasuke cant deffend at all (which is a prime means to open a attack) then his attacks wont nessisarilly help him either. A dead body cant...

Ty, so no new abilitys to push Sasuke over the edge into victory??

Thats why I said my point wasnt absolute, we dont know if Sasuke can figure it out in generate enough power and we dont know if pain is dumb enough to let Sasuke make rain clouds, reach up and strike him with kirin. I was only stating that its not a high chance any1 even Sasuke can pull that...

No clue what u said... Not a grammer Nazi cause my spelling is that of a 4 year olds, but that was bad.. If I were to try and guess at wat u said id reply by saying yes, I dont think occular genjutsu can effect pain. And that I dont see the big deal with EMS Sasuke. + persanally id like to fight...

Doesnt really help.. I already knew that. Question was past Naruto's

I truely appresiate ur gusto, but pain can control the weather, kirin isnt really accountable in this fight. And also, Sasuke would need to both figure out ”gedo mazo's” weakness and then have time to generate the power of 1 rasin shriken, a 8 tailed beast bomb and itachi's sus's attack. Not...

How so? His stamina surpasses Naruto's cause of EMS? Can someone pls post all the perks of EMS?

The genjutsu only worked cause it was able to 3 ninja at a time. its not that anything was linked but it was a extreamly high lvl jutsu that could already easily catch a large group of opponents. + jboy caught pain off Gard. Im sure pain has several defences to occular jutsu being that he had...

Please dont state ur unorthidox conotations of other peoples mental statice on topic when several of us has made a data-base containing a nearly ordered arrey of skills that pain posses that show Sasuke cant.... Or at least back urself up before you do, dont just call someone ignorant without...

Naruto and jman didnt just beat the pains in 1 on 1 fights, jboy was nothing against 6 of them. And pain couldnt go all out on Naruto yet it was still a pretty one sided fight for the most part. Naruto had help, please understand that sage Naruto cant beat pain 1 on 1 and as u said, the gap...

Dont bag on all Sasuke haters, some of us have true hate over his character. I have since the seires began. + in my opinion, some one isnt worth hating if there a weak peace of nothing that can be pushed over, + im not a fan of pain, so im not apposed to Sasuke winning, but I honestly dont think...

No on Manny Manny accounts. They dont share a brain or chakra networks (which genjutsu effects... Genjutsu efects y ou through ur sences, but it doesnt affect ur sences) also theoretically there vision are like the mirror used to see Medusa (as said before). Theres also the thought that if...

It might have been, but I personally thought some of it was interesting, I understand its out of date but it fits the time of the fight were talking about I saposse. Im not behin on my manga... Altho I can admit, I dont get why everyone always uses the Japanese names when the mention a jutsu. I...

Thank you ^^ and yes. In my post I said desentigrate them. But the key word is slowly. But in my post I meant to say incinerate... :3

First lets lay the facts. Jiraiya was among the top ninja of the Naruto world and overall on par with such a complete ninja of the level of Itachi who is a genius Uchiha and owner of a Mangekyou Sharingan. (Remember that Jiraiya was one of the few that Itachi showed concern to fight against)...