Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight

[HadouKage]

Bold: I have no idea what you're trying to say here :|

Uzumaki =/= Senju. True, they are distantly related, but Senju would (being a direct descendant of the younger son) have more life force. Again lacking common sense here.

I find it comical you have yet to address my original point: anything that isn't already attributed to in-verse laws is replaced by IRL logic. Until you actually decide to try and disprove this statement of mine and stop being a complete amateur in debating, I won't be taking you seriously any time soon.

Kakashi was talking inside the Water Prison Jutsu, didn't know that was a feat we humans achieved :|

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Kakashi was talking inside the Water Prison Jutsu, didn't know that was a feat we humans achieved :|

yea and if u watch the water is around him not on or through him is more like a water shield

 

[HadouKage]

yea and if u watch the water is around him not on or through him is more like a water shield

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If you see the bubbles coming from his mouth then that is false

 

[Gouryuuka]

I think her immortality works to some extent. If she is beheaded, her body isn't able to function without her head attached to her body to command the chakra flow. Every ninja who was deemed immortal had a small margin of error within their power. Kakuzu had a similar power, yet if you killed all 5 of his hearts his anatomical limits would still follow. He was still human despite his Earth Grudge Fear and without his hearts he could not function, simple reason really.

Tsunade without her head works the same way. Currently she is only decapitated in two through her torso. Her brain can still function and give orders to where her upper body chakra can go. Her vital organs are somewhat intact which gives her that ability to survive. However, without her head none of her abilities would work without a body.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Oro tried to strangle her to asphyxiate her to death, its possible her regenerative faculties only apply to physical trauma and amputation of limbs and bisectioning.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

hmm wonder if she can withstand this

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[HadouKage]

Again completely misunderstanding my argument. That instance was neither explained through in-verse laws nor can it be explained by IRL logic. So? What's your point? A mangaka can't make an inconsistency or flaw within their manga? That's not only an unreasonable expectation, but also completely laughable.

What needs to be explained? Humans can't breathe in or under water, like I said science is weak when using arguments in the Narutoverse

 

[Chatte]

Well you all use decapitation like it would be something that easy on her.
If decapitation would work like that, than she'd be dead after the Heavenly Transfer Jutsu who basically rips you to shreds.
Yet she only took some cuts which she healed immediately after.

 

[HadouKage]

Well you all use decapitation like it would be something that easy on her.
If decapitation would work like that, than she'd be dead after the Heavenly Transfer Jutsu who basically rips you to shreds.
Yet she only took some cuts which she healed immediately after.

I couldn't agree more, as it was stated that the bolded tech worked in some aspects of Jinton. Yet she still managed to stay alive, which brings up my point that science is weak when debating about the Narutoverse

 

[Chatte]

I couldn't agree more, as it was stated that the bolded tech worked in some aspects of Jinton. Yet she still managed to stay alive, which brings up my point that science is weak when debating about the Narutoverse

That's why I said real-life science can't work that good in NV.
But meh, to each his own.

 

[HadouKage]

Uh, yeah? So you're saying that in this case we should ignore BASIC BIOLOGY? What are you arguing? I never once stated that science should be applied in all cases - but in this topic it is common sense to apply it, or are you saying she can survive decapitation by regenerating?

Um... I call contradiction, weren't you the one that said

That, quite obviously, is attributed to Narutoverse laws.

I've yet to see a rule that states surviving decapitation through regeneration is possible. Everything not explained by or attributed to the logic inside the verse, is replaced by IRL logic. Unless you want Kishimoto to discard all and every basic human biological function in the favor of complete nonsense? Which is a quite dim-witted argument to make.

You stated everything that is not within the logic of the Narutoverse is replaced by IRL
Which is false, tell me, how can you breathe underwater?
Cause I never heard of humans being able to speak underwater without a helmet or air tank

 

[HadouKage]

Prove that it is weak in this instance and I'll stop thinking of you as a complete imbecile

Naruto couldn't move while Pain used Basho Tenin
But threw a Rasenshuriken when he used Chibaku Tensei

 

[HadouKage]

It's not a contradiction as I already accepted that there are exceptions due to human errors a mangaka can make. Unless you're saying the manga should be perfect without any flaws? Hence why I called your statement laughable.

That, quite obviously, is attributed to Narutoverse laws.

I've yet to see a rule that states surviving decapitation through regeneration is possible. Everything not explained by or attributed to the logic inside the verse, is replaced by IRL logic. Unless you want Kishimoto to discard all and every basic human biological function in the favor of complete nonsense? Which is a quite dim-witted argument to make.

However that's not what you stated. I never said you can NEVER use science to backup your claims in the Narutoverse (classic example of how Kakashi Kamui is one of the most OP jutsu in the series). Like Chatte stated I simply said that science is WEAK in the Narutoverse in which you have failed to prove how Kakashi can breathe and talk underwater. I've tried with Pain's path and someone told me the same thing. Science is not a good factor as

Manga proof > science

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

[video=youtube;4krNOH1fHEk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4krNOH1fHEk[/video]

so we can all calm down and listen to a sad soothing song

 

[HadouKage]

At the time, no, because I was not aware of the inconsistency you pointed out, numbskull. Then I adjusted it based on newly presented evidence. It's only the most logical thing to do :|

Then what the fuck are you still arguing? I never stated anything about science as a back-up for an argument, I'm focusing on THIS topic and you keep dodging it by regurgitating the same shit you've been spouting from the beginning. So, either admit she would not survive based on science in THIS instance, or stop dancing around the issue. It's getting tiresome.

That was explained by her regeneration.

Surviving a decapitation, however, is not explained by her regeneration. In case you didn't know basic biology (I'm guessing you don't), if you sever someone's head, the brain won't be able to send signals to the rest of the body and it will shut down. How is her regeneration going to work when she is beheaded? And how does any of your comment even address the point of the OP?

The fact is this bull**** you speak of was started by you, had you stayed on topic from the beginning we would not be debating about this now. Fact is the manga contradicts itself. I don't know, if Kakashi can breathe underwater, who says that Tsunade can't survive head decapitation? Like I said a 1000x science is weak when backing up claims in the Narutoverse

 

[HadouKage]

And yet again, you dance around the issue - the post you quoted stays right on topic, and completely proves my point. In THIS instance, science can fully well be used in an argument, and I have never stated it would be the same for OTHER instances, that's you attempting to put words in my mouth. Quote me all day long if you like - I'm in the right.

I don't even know why you're still trying when everyone on the thread can see what moronic arguments you're making and have yet to refute the point I made, which you kindly quoted for me (thanks for that).

So you are Kishi huh?
Why does science work in your situation but not explain how Kakashi can breathe underwater? Because it can't. Using biology in both of our scenarios is no different. The fact is, the manga likes to contradict itself as it is in no way humanly or scientifically possibly for a human to talk (let alone breathe in water) without dying. You don't know what Kishi has up is sleeve. You don't know the Byakyo's limits

 

[Lucidus]

I have proof that she is basically immortal.

She is alive while being cut in half, She is still alive, She can still move, She can still use jutsu's, No normal person can survive what she is doing right now.
Thus plus tsunades own statement holds better than your rubbish opinion

this is rediculous... tsunade is not imortal ... if she was struck to the brain then the death is instant... u cant heal that no matter what... healing wounds and cuts and things maybe fatal injuries but not vital spots... the reason tsunade is still moving whiles cut in half is because no vital organs have been struck... as for ur logic there are people around in wheel chairs that dont have legs that are around..

if tsunade was beheaded then she would die... reason for this is that the brain is what functions her jutsu's her nervous system and everything if that is detached from her body then her body cant do a thing... tsunade would die because of lack of oxygen to the brain... this is common sence

u cant take everything so litteral in the manga...

 

[HadouKage]

this is rediculous... tsunade is not imortal ... if she was struck to the brain then the death is instant... u cant heal that no matter what... healing wounds and cuts and things maybe fatal injuries but not vital spots... the reason tsunade is still moving whiles cut in half is because no vital organs have been struck... as for ur logic there are people around in wheel chairs that dont have legs that are around..

if tsunade was beheaded then she would die... reason for this is that the brain is what functions her jutsu's her nervous system and everything if that is detached from her body then her body cant do a thing... tsunade would die because of lack of oxygen to the brain... this is common sence

u cant take everything so litteral in the manga...

She was stabbed in the lung by Oro and still was able to talk and breathe. Do you consider lungs to be a vital organ?

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

hmm wonder if she can withstand this

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Whats this?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

What if someone beheads her?

See? Hype is bullsh1t.

it depends on how you behead them. if you cut her head of slowly her neck will heal back in the process. it has to be quick. on that asuma type sh!t