Armless Orochimaru vs Zabuza

[ShaneEyyy]

Zabuza can't kill Orochimaru. Furthermore, Orochimaru is more intelligent then him. He may allow him to get closer in the mist, then he uses the Kusanagi to cut his head off. I don't know why are you comparing Kage level shinobis with Zabuza... This is like a Neji vs Orochimaru, or a Choji vs Mei fight...

I hate debating with you, all of the information you provide is wrong.

I don't care if Orochimaru survived a punch? You think if a punch didn't kill him than a giant sword that could cut him in half wouldn't defeat him? Haha yea, sure.

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Orochimaru has a 4.5/5 in db for speed, Zabuza has a 4/5 for speed, Zabuza should be able to keep up enough to not get blitzed. BTW Orochimaru never blitzed Jiraiya. If he did provide me a scan, ill give you a while to draw one.

Orochimaru isn't a sensor, him saying all of them can feel this chakra despite they are not sensor doesnt mean he is a sensor, it means he knows that some chakra, either the Juubi or Naruto is so great that even they can sense it too despite their lack of skill compared to him, he was really surprised.

"He may allow him to get closer in the mist, then he uses the Kusanagi to cut his head off" See this is why i think you're a dumbass because you have ****ty reason for everything. Like that just sounds stupid, heres my counter to that, 'If Orochimaru allows him to get close, if he tries to chop Zabuza's head of with the Kusanagi blade, Zabuza will duck and chop his head off". haha, gtfoh

Orochimaru roflstomps no difficulty whatsoever.

Nope, Zabuza takes this

Don't say this, he will neg rep you. Last time he neg repped me because I said Mei >> Zabuza xd

I neg repped you because you called me retarded and provided ****ty reasoning, i even told you to neg rep me back because i didnt care. stop trying to make yourself look better.

You always do threads about Zabuza. Oro would win Zabuza hasn't got any powerful techs to kill him Oro can just slice him apart with Kusangi.

Yea I always do threads about Zabuza. If it bothers you, you could always leave this site I really dont care. And again what is up with this horrible reasoning. Oro's arms are sealed, he doesnt have any powerful techs because of his arms and Zabuza can slice him up with his Kubikiribocho, Zabuza stomps Oro in Kenjutsu. The Databook proves that. Deal with it.

Haters gonna hate.

Fanboys gonna fanboy.

Truth hurts.

You can't handle the truth haha. Clearly Zabuza takes this.

No banta im just going to say Orochimaru Mid diff If you want me to exaplain why i will be happy to

I don't want you to explain, your reasoning for anything is ignorant. Even Icelerate was VMing you about how annoying you were being and how you think certain characters would beat others. GTFOH

Oro low-mid diff

Ehhhh nah. Zabuza mid diff.

Stop making VS threads were you handicap other characters just so your character has a chance of winning.

The point of making this thread was to prove a point to someone about their tier list. And yea ok I'm going to listen to you....

Next time he will make a Zabuza vs Tsunade's upper body thread xd

Tsunade is the weakest Hokage, she's a disgrace compared to Hashi and Hiruzen, her grandfather and sensei. I hate Tsunade.

all she has to do is summon the slug !_!

I agree, Tsunade would beat Zabuza mid diff.

 

[Edo Odin]

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I hate debating with you, all of the information you provide is wrong.

I don't care if Orochimaru survived a punch? You think if a punch didn't kill him than a giant sword that could cut him in half wouldn't defeat him? Haha yea, sure.

You must be registered for see links

Orochimaru has a 4.5/5 in db for speed, Zabuza has a 4/5 for speed, Zabuza should be able to keep up enough to not get blitzed. BTW Orochimaru never blitzed Jiraiya. If he did provide me a scan, ill give you a while to draw one.

Orochimaru isn't a sensor, him saying all of them can feel this chakra despite they are not sensor doesnt mean he is a sensor, it means he knows that some chakra, either the Juubi or Naruto is so great that even they can sense it too despite their lack of skill compared to him, he was really surprised.

"He may allow him to get closer in the mist, then he uses the Kusanagi to cut his head off" See this is why i think you're a dumbass because you have ****ty reason for everything. Like that just sounds stupid, heres my counter to that, 'If Orochimaru allows him to get close, if he tries to chop Zabuza's head of with the Kusanagi blade, Zabuza will duck and chop his head off". haha, gtfoh




Nope, Zabuza takes this



I neg repped you because you called me retarded and provided ****ty reasoning, i even told you to neg rep me back because i didnt care. stop trying to make yourself look better.



Yea I always do threads about Zabuza. If it bothers you, you could always leave this site I really dont care. And again what is up with this horrible reasoning. Oro's arms are sealed, he doesnt have any powerful techs because of his arms and Zabuza can slice him up with his Kubikiribocho, Zabuza stomps Oro in Kenjutsu. The Databook proves that. Deal with it.



You can't handle the truth haha. Clearly Zabuza takes this.



I don't want you to explain, your reasoning for anything is ignorant. Even Icelerate was VMing you about how annoying you were being and how you think certain characters would beat others. GTFOH



Ehhhh nah. Zabuza mid diff.



The point of making this thread was to prove a point to someone about their tier list. And yea ok I'm going to listen to you....



Tsunade is the weakest Hokage, she's a disgrace compared to Hashi and Hiruzen, her grandfather and sensei. I hate Tsunade.



I agree, Tsunade would beat Zabuza mid diff.

I'm afraid that I judged you incorrectly.

I also like the fact that you ignored xxDPxx's post.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

I called you retard? Maybe, but I don't remember. I even + repped you, because I said I won't neg rep you because your opinion is different.
Even now, after those pointless insults, I won't call you retard or fool, because there are bigger idiots in the forum then you. At least you try to give reasonable arguments.

 

[Reaper]

I'm afraid that I judged you incorrectly.

I also like the fact that you ignored xxDPxx's post.

And how may I ask did you judge him before?

 

[Edo Odin]

And how may I ask did you judge him before?

He seemed to be pretty logical at first, but these handicap threads and insults at people who disagree showed otherwise xd

 

[Rike Senju]

This is one of the few times I've seen Oro underrated. He wins low difficulty at best..in part 1 kakashi who defeated zabuza was crapping his pants at the thought of facing oro that alone should be able to end this thread.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

And how may I ask did you judge him before?

Ok Ik you think I'm an idiot I dont care, I thought u and I have an agreement that you would stay off my threads to prevent a possible conflict?

I called you retard? Maybe, but I don't remember. I even + repped you, because I said I won't neg rep you because your opinion is different.
Even now, after those pointless insults, I won't call you retard or fool, because there are bigger idiots in the forum then you. At least you try to give reasonable arguments.

You may not call me names, but you make me feel like **** because it's like you use all this ABC logic to make me sound like I'm handicapped.

I'm afraid that I judged you incorrectly.

I also like the fact that you ignored xxDPxx's post.

I'm working on his post right now, and that is logical....how does it not make sense that Orochimaru was surprised that a guy like Suigetsu could sense such a strong chakra from a far? It wasnt 100% proof that Oro is a sensor, he may be just impressed.

He seemed to be pretty logical at first, but these handicap threads and insults at people who disagree showed otherwise xd

I made 2 handicap threads to try to prove a point to someone about their Tier list.

I'm not the only one throwing insults

If you think I'm an idiot and you dont like me, thats cool bro, you can just leave the thread and be done with it. Thats the "logical" thing to do

 

[ShaneEyyy]

This is one of the few times I've seen Oro underrated. He wins low difficulty at best..in part 1 kakashi who defeated zabuza was crapping his pants at the thought of facing oro that alone should be able to end this thread.

That alone is not able to end this thread because Kakashi freaked out about Oro when he had his arms. If Oro not having his arms was a big deal, then how come Oro was panicking about Hiruzen sealing his arms? It is a huge impact to his skill without his arms. dont even try to say otherwise.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

When we are comparing low level shinobies with high level shinobies, the ABC logic is legit

 

[Reaper]

Ok Ik you think I'm an idiot I dont care, I thought u and I have an agreement that you would stay off my threads to prevent a possible conflict?

I asked him a question,I did not call you an idiot.

 

[Rike Senju]

That alone is not able to end this thread because Kakashi freaked out about Oro when he had his arms. If Oro not having his arms was a big deal, then how come Oro was panicking about Hiruzen sealing his arms? It is a huge impact to his skill without his arms. dont even try to say otherwise.

No arms oro fought 4T Naruto and managed to get out alive (even though he got whooped). 4T Naruto would super stomp zabuza. This ABC logic does work this time because the shinobi levels are too far apart.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

No arms oro fought 4T Naruto and managed to get out alive (even though he got whooped). 4T Naruto would super stomp zabuza. This ABC logic does work this time because the shinobi levels are too far apart.

You are wrong. That Orochimaru had his arms. Or at least he had some sort of arms, because he was able to use ninjutsu and he punched Naruto.

 

[TheTailedSage]

You are wrong. That Orochimaru had his arms. Or at least he had some sort of arms, because he was able to use ninjutsu and he punched Naruto.

Funny how he ignored DP post xD just leave him to his own devices and let hi argue amongst himself, ive tried being nice but he cant accept the truth

 

[ShaneEyyy]

I just ended your thread. Replies in the red.

1. Orochimaru was mainly using his Ninjutsu against 4 Tailed Naruto. He survived his tailed beast bomb by his defensive summonings. He used his ninjutsu to shed his body and attack with thousands of snakes. His taijutsu wasn't what he was revolving around. Do you honestly think Oro could do the same without his arms? And Zabuza's taijutsu 4.5, Oro's 3.5, Zabuza's is better, Kishi and Databook facts, deal with it.

2. Is this a joke? Temari has incredible Fuuton, the mists weakness, Oro doesnt and he doesnt have his arms to use any other jutsu to counter it.

3. He used Great Breakthrough, true. That move consists of handseals, something ARMLESS Oro cant do. Sorry, nice try thou-nah that was an awful attempt.

4. What's exactly your point here? Show me the scan of Oro using that jutsu before using handseals. And eventually, Oro is going to have to come out of the surface to actually fight Zabuza, which will be his downfall.

5. His speed is greater. You think that is going to change something here? Being fast wont get you out of the mist. It's not like Zabuza isnt fast either. So that argument is pointless

6. He may be able to avoid Water Dragon Jutsu, however Giant Vortex Jutsu may propose a problem to him. It is a very fast and large technique. Rather Oro dodges it or not, he has no counter to the mist.

7. What happens if he decapitates his head? He will be dead thus not be able to perform the tech that reattaches his body with snakes. When he got sliced in half, he wasnt dead, his heart was still pumping allowing him to perform it, once your head is decapitated from your body, youre dead.

You can't prove me wrong here, I will counter anything you can throw at me.

If you're really Doctor Proof, I fully understand why you got banned.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

When we are comparing low level shinobies with high level shinobies, the ABC logic is legit

Slug Princess what don't you understand that Oro without his arms is not the same high level shinobi he is with his arms. And Zabuza isnt a low level shinobi and you know it

I asked him a question,I did not call you an idiot.

Yea I know, but by the way we discussed in the past. It's implied that you do think I am one. Am I wrong?

You are wrong. That Orochimaru had his arms. Or at least he had some sort of arms, because he was able to use ninjutsu and he punched Naruto.

At least we agree on something

Funny how he ignored DP post xD just leave him to his own devices and let hi argue amongst himself, ive tried being nice but he cant accept the truth

It takes time to write a valid response back to someone. I cant just write random bull**** in a minute like you do

 

[TheTailedSage]

It takes time to write a valid response back to someone. I cant just write random bull**** in a minute like you do

Oooook If they were so shiit then why couldnt you counter not one of them :/ your getting ass raped right now on more threads than this so dont bring it to me like im a diick head no way i can spout crap like you do and get away with it which is why i dont do it right now no one has disagreed with me just you

 

[xxDPxx]

1. Orochimaru was mainly using his Ninjutsu against 4 Tailed Naruto. He survived his tailed beast bomb by his defensive summonings. He used his ninjutsu to shed his body and attack with thousands of snakes. His taijutsu wasn't what he was revolving around. Do you honestly think Oro could do the same without his arms? And Zabuza's taijutsu 4.5, Oro's 3.5, Zabuza's is better, Kishi and Databook facts, deal with it.

Show me where Zabuza has shown to be better in Taijutsu in the manga, show me where Zabuza has better feats. Also show me where Orochimaru uses his arms in the manga in those chapters, I might have overlooked it but find me it.

2. Is this a joke? Temari has incredible Fuuton, the mists weakness, Oro doesnt and he doesnt have his arms to use any other jutsu to counter it.

Great Breakthrough is an area covering fuuton technique, please just stop evading this, you've lost this argument. Don't be stubborn.

3. He used Great Breakthrough, true. That move consists of handseals, something ARMLESS Oro cant do. Sorry, nice try thou-nah that was an awful attempt.

Show me where is says Great Breakthrough needs handseals, in the manga.

4. What's exactly your point here? Show me the scan of Oro using that jutsu before using handseals. And eventually, Oro is going to have to come out of the surface to actually fight Zabuza, which will be his downfall.

You said Orochimaru had no way of avoiding the mist, and I provided you with one.. You are a stubborn fanboy, nothing more, nothing less. Orochimaru completely avoids the mist, and avoids away from that area. Pulling Zabuza in his direction as the fight must continue..

5. His speed is greater. You think that is going to change something here? Being fast wont get you out of the mist. It's not like Zabuza isnt fast either. So that argument is pointless

You're obviously blind when I've provided countless manga proof etc.. I'm done with this argument everyone here knows you've lost.

6. He may be able to avoid Water Dragon Jutsu, however Giant Vortex Jutsu may propose a problem to him. It is a very fast and large technique. Rather Oro dodges it or not, he has no counter to the mist.

Already countered the mist with manga proof.

7. What happens if he decapitates his head? He will be dead thus not be able to perform the tech that reattaches his body with snakes. When he got sliced in half, he wasnt dead, his heart was still pumping allowing him to perform it, once your head is decapitated from your body, youre dead.

Not exactly, humans can live about 7 seconds if I researched that right or more without there head attach. Thus this would allow Orochimaru to reattach his head.

You can't prove me wrong here, I will counter anything you can throw at me.

If you're really Doctor Proof, I fully understand why you got banned.

Simply illogical, not one drop of manga proof just simple speculations. Don't worry about this member guys/girls. He's completely stubborn, and offers no manga proof.

 

[ShaneEyyy]

Oooook If they were so shiit then why couldnt you counter not one of them :/ your getting ass raped right now on more threads than this so dont bring it to me like im a diick head no way i can spout crap like you do and get away with it which is why i dont do it right now no one has disagreed with me just you

I did counter them, again your little buddy Icelerate even told you so.

 

[TheTailedSage]

I did counter them, again your little buddy Icelerate even told you so.

My lil "buddy" iccelerate said i put up a decent argument he just got annoyed because i said your a fanboy which quite frankly is true if you do a Decent thread putting zabuza up against someone thats actually level then ill debate properly

 

[xxDPxx]

Zabuza>NarutoVerse due to this guys idiotic reasoning.