Tsunade potentially counters Mangekyo Sharingan (read)

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you said potentially and i agree but we dont have enough evidence for this. Especially the tsukiyomi point. However u sound biased as u said Tsunade can keep up with A and naruto. Thats just a no. Edit: Tsunade fans are getting annoying. @ the person who said she can crush a ems user weaker than madara. Hell no she could potentially defeat a user but she is crushing no one.

You're stupid if you think someone is superior just by having a EMS. Yes, Tsunade can crush a weaker EMS user than Madara and that was proved by how she tanked all of Madara's attacks. Go watch Doctor who instead of typing nonsense...
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here tsunade was asked to help out in the fight against km naruto and killer bee:
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which means tsunade can beat km naruto and bee at the same time

she was also prepared to fight raikage:
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therefore tsunade >>> raikage

No but apparently both the raikage and tsunade believe she is fast enough to hold off Bee or Naruto
 

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Not sure if this is a troll thread or what? :|
 

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You're stupid if you think someone is superior just by having a EMS. Yes, Tsunade can crush a weaker EMS user than Madara and that was proved by how she tanked all of Madara's attacks. Go watch Doctor who instead of typing nonsense...
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Tsunade isn't beating any known EMS user, Or Ms user for that matter.

(Besides Ms izuna because his Ms abilities are unknown).

She isn't breaking Completel susanoo, She isn't tanking amaterasu.

Stop overrating her, If you take amaterasu out then Maybe, Just maybe she could outlast Sasuke, But she isn't getting past itachi's genjutsu, Not even close.
 

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You're stupid if you think someone is superior just by having a EMS. Yes, Tsunade can crush a weaker EMS user than Madara and that was proved by how she tanked all of Madara's attacks. Go watch Doctor who instead of typing nonsense...
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firstly i stopped watching doctor who after David Tennant left. Secondly i did not say someone is superior just by having ems. There are only two people we know who have ems and they are both superior than Tsunade. All u hIve is speculation that Tsunade can out run amaterasu and break out of tsukiyomi. I could tell from ur comment that u were trying to piss me off but that did not work. The funny thing is i like Tsunade and chatte is the only one of u Tsunade fans that speaks sense. Anyway have a good day cos u wont hear from me as im going to bed. Btw crushing implies winning easily which she does in no way what so ever.
 
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Genjutsu:
Tsunade is the gratest medical Ninja in history and was able to heal Kakashi from TSUKUYOMI. she roved that she can deal with mental damage and since genjutsu is based on the mentality of the opponent, tsunade hould deal with it. it have to be mention that tsuandes chakra control is perfect cause she is a medical ninja and knows the anatomy of the humans. and since genjutsu manipulate the chakra in your brain and tsunades control is perfect, this is the next step to free herself from genjutsu. even sakura in part 1 managed to break genjutsu.
she has further the will of fire which is according to her MORE IMPORTANT than any powers from hashirama, the will allows you to stand even if you are at your llimit. like rock lee who stood up against gaara although he was unconscious. and if she activates her seal, her chakra will run through her bpdy ermanently in high amounts, her whole system will run and not allow genjutsu to manipulate it. even if itachi uses tsuuyomi, her seal is automatically healing her wounds.
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. I don't why people like to assume since she can heal the effects of Tsukuyomi, she can resist it too, that's wrong. Its just a baseless assumption that she can deal with it based on another baseless assumption that she is mentally strong enough to withstand it. 1 second=72 Days, he can make it as long as he wants, a few seconds will kill her instead of just putting her into a coma.

Susanoo:
Susanoos weak point is the ground, if you attack from the ground, theu ser cant protect himself. Tsunade proved that she can destroy the entry ground with ONE hit.since the uchihas cant fly, this is their weakness. susanoo has not much mobility and if the ground gets crushed, the user will fall into the ground with his susanoo. further tsunade showed a gread speed and strength against susanoo. he fought with 5 susanoo but managed to get past the shared field of vision of madaras clones and his the huge susanoo with feets to the ground, dont forget she fought FIVE susanoos.
Tsunade isn't making a crater big enough to cause Susanoo to completely fall into the ground. Susanoo's weak point is from under the Susanoo, the user can protect themselves from any attack besides the ones that come from under the Susanoo.


amaterasu:
The most dangerous here but tsunade can still counter to some extent.
first of, sasuke managed to run out itachis amaterasu, itachi hit sasuke after several seconds. tsunade however is truly fast since she fought 5 susanoos at once and managed to hit them. she could keep up with a and km naruto too. she fought on pair with a against naruto. she cant be underestimated. further her seal heals her from any wounds. amaterasu can not be deleted but tsunade can still keep up her regeneration and fight to pressurize her opponent. if only a part of her body is affected, she can cut it of. her healing abilitys will heal the wound from the body part she has cut off and maybe even regenerate it. madara compared her seal with hashiramas best medical technique. we have to consider that madara first said that hashiramas medical skills were on such a high level, that even tunade is nothing compared with and then suddenly tsunade used a medical technique on pair with hashirama.
Itachi wasn't trying to kill Sasuke, so that reference is invalid. Tsunade didn't keep up with KM Naruto, not one bit, KM Naruto's speed>>>>>>>>>>Tsunade's speed. A focused Amaterasu (Like the one used on Bee), will burn her faster than she can regenerate, Edo Nagato was hit with Amaterasu (unfocused) and it was burning him faster than he could heal from it as parts of his body were turned to ash, Edo Rengeration>>>Tsunade's Regeneration by far. If Amaterasu is all over her body just like it was for Danzo and Bee, she isn't getting rid of it.
 

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@Slug Princess, one is indeed superior to Tsunade when having the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan, irrespective of his talent. The Mangekyō Sharingan grants you super powerful abilities, designed for killing victims hopelessly. Even Obito, who was considered to be one of the more untalented shinobi of his clan, slaughtered an Anbu squad of Kirigakure with just 15 years, after just awakening one Mangekyō Sharingan, and if the story taught us one, is that the Uchiha are a naturally talented and skilled clan. The EMS however was praised even before the MS to be the 'true power'. There is no doubt, that Tsunade would hopelessly lose against any user of the MS and EMS in history of the Uchiha.

To get back to your view that Tsunade could tank Madaras techniques. What she tanked were actually Katon techniques, Susanoos Yasaka no Magatama and the sword she was stabbed with, as Madara was toying with them an the fight was limited by the plot. Susanoo has already proven, that it can turn its opponents to paste with one hit, cut body parts of with just a single stroke of its fingertips (seen against Nagato) and smash even Kimimaros bones, which were supposed to be harder than steel and were in this case even supported by Kabutos Senchakra, which increases the power of the techniques.

Tsunade is clearly not able to tank the techniques of the Mangekyou Sharingan, if it comes to a serious clash. In a fight which isn't determined by the plot, Susanoo won't just stab Tsunade with a sword but turn her to paste with a single punch like against Danzo or slaughter her in pieces with a stroke which cut Kimimaros bones. Amaterasu will hit her body, burn her in a fast progress to ashes and kill her by this way, too. It should also be clear, that Tsukuyomi gives her such a mental stress she won't be able to deal with, no matter how strong her will is. The humans mentality is their weakest point after all and Itachi doesn't have limits within his Tsukuyomi, as he controls time and space. She, as a healer, healed Kakashi from a mental damage he received, not she herself and the level of torture Itachi caused to Kakashi was marginal above, if we consider that Itachi can do anything he wants within Tsukuyomi. In Tsukuyomi, Itachi can set Tsunade on fire, tear her into pieces and squish her slowly to paste by full awareness, while showing her pictures of Dan and Nawaki dying by the worst scenarios, for days. She can't heal herself after experiencing such a mental trauma and falling into coma, if not being left dead, what is absolutely the case if one has experienced too much of mental stress.
 
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You almost had me there.
 
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