Re: Naruto Tier List V5.1
1. Naruto without Kakashi's help had no chance against Obito who managed to hold his own against all four of them. Sure Bee wasn't fighting but neither was Gedo Mazo. Naruto can't seal Edo Madara and Madara is too versatile, experienced and intelligent for Naruto even if they are on roughly the same levels. Him having mastery over EMS and the ability to use mokuton (bijuu's weakness) as well as preta path negates most of Naruto's attacks.
2. Nagato has sensory abilities, flight and animal summons (linked vision) so I think he can react just fine. Your counter may work but spamming that many attacks will require a ton of clones which will drain Naruto's chakra very fast. Chou shinra tensei and Gedo Mazou will trouble Naruto's clone army.
3. Obito can warp away when frog song is being casted so he is safe. Obito casually breaks genjutsu. Minato beat an Obito who didn't use izanagi. Izanagi combined with intability is very haed.
4/5. Yeah Joki is a funny guy.
6. Weren't Oro's arms sealed when he fought four tailed Naruto?
7. Lee and Temari beat Kiba with low-mid difficulty IMO. Kiba could potentially push Zabuza to mid difficulty but I think some people in the low jounin tier such as Kurotsuchi are above him.
9. Fine I agree.
1. The whole reason Naruto would hit Obito on his own would be due to Shunshin and Kage Bunshin. Both he wasn't able to use. (All the debris stopped him from using shunshin, and by the time he could they had already found out Kakashi could use kamui to hit obito which is easier). Save Madara thing for the thread, i countered all of that.
2. Sensory wont due much against Naruto's Shunshin. He literally can't react. Nagato's Kuchiyose is countered by Naruto's Kuchiyose. And i only factor in Gedo Mazo without Biju's, otherwise Nagato would be in God Tier +. And im not sayin Naruto is outright better. Im just saying this Naruto would beat Nagato at the same diff Current Naruto would beat Edo Madara, Max diff.
3. Gama Ranbu can't be casually broken. If obito wants to warp away then he has to know when its coming, a luxury he wont have. If Rinnegan Obito use's Izanagi then he can no longer use Kamui.
4/5. I agree xD
6. He was using them. The Sealed oro im referring to is the one where he literally can't use them. E.g refer to Sanin fight.
7. If i find some of the threads then i'll link them. They actually go really in depth