Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage, manga said so

[Edo Odin]

Those are honestly just the Hiruzen fanboys, if anything that has been stated in the manga and not contradicted was true, then:

1. The 6 Paths of Pain are unbeatable if their opponent has no knowledge, Fukasaku said so, and so far they haven't lost against anyone who fought without knowledge. That means that the 6pop>Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, and pretty much everyone not from Konoha or Ame. Heck, they'd even beat the sage of six paths himself if he was fighting without knowledge.

2. The Helm-Splitter sword can get through Perfect Susanoo easily. It was said that it could break through anything, and so far it hasn't been seen failing in breaking through, so obviously it can break through anything, even Madara's PS.

^Prime example of the logic some people use on here.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Manga also says prime hanzo>everyone
So you are wrong


And han also confirmed that hiruzen can't beat madara



Lol my bad did not read op

 

[The Alchemist]

It's because Hiruzen is not the strongest Hokage, He never was, not a single bit. I don't know where these fanboys get that idea of Hiruzen being the strongest Hokage. I just don't !

The fact that the man was called "The Professor" because he knows all of the jutsus in Konoha (knowing doesn't mean he can use them BTW), Orochimaru said himself that his decline in prowess was due to age, nothing more, meaning if he had been in his prime during that fight Orochimaru would've been a lot more cautious, and because the dude is called the "God of Shinobi"..
The put him on a pedestal higher than Hashirama, whose powers people called a myth like a fairy tale. When you are called a god you have to be a boss. No one called Hashi, Tobirama, Minato, nor Tsunade nor any other Kages to date god... Even the other Kages were surprised by his death at the hands of Orochimaru because they knew first hand (especially Oonoki seeing as how they were around the same age) that he was a beast. He trained the Sannins himself creating legends; he died during his struggle with Oro but he was able to use three count 'em three Shiki Fuujins while his chakra was divided into three shadow clones. Enma even alluded to the fact that he was a boss because he too was surprised at how he struggled against Oro and the Edo Kages.
And last but not least he was taught by Hashirama and Tobirama and was elected Hokage once more in his old age after the fall of the third. That makes him the best. So what if we didn't see some OP jutsu from him, he still is regarded as "The God of Shinobi".

 

[StraawHat]

Hanzo ._. Gtfo!

 

[Punk Hazard]

The fact that the man was called "The Professor" because he knows all of the jutsus in Konoha (knowing doesn't mean he can use them BTW), Orochimaru said himself that his decline in prowess was due to age, nothing more, meaning if he had been in his prime during that fight Orochimaru would've been a lot more cautious, and because the dude is called the "God of Shinobi"..
The put him on a pedestal higher than Hashirama, whose powers people called a myth like a fairy tale. When you are called a god you have to be a boss. No one called Hashi, Tobirama, Minato, nor Tsunade nor any other Kages to date god... Even the other Kages were surprised by his death at the hands of Orochimaru because they knew first hand (especially Oonoki seeing as how they were around the same age) that he was a beast. He trained the Sannins himself creating legends; he died during his struggle with Oro but he was able to use three count 'em three Shiki Fuujins while his chakra was divided into three shadow clones. Enma even alluded to the fact that he was a boss because he too was surprised at how he struggled against Oro and the Edo Kages.
And last but not least he was taught by Hashirama and Tobirama and was elected Hokage once more in his old age after the fall of the third. That makes him the best. So what if we didn't see some OP jutsu from him, he still is regarded as "The God of Shinobi".

Mhm, but where's the manga page outright stating he's the strongest Hokage for a fact?

 

[startup97]

Hiruzen Prime!
[video=youtube;rhHAgpxUBkg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhHAgpxUBkg[/video]

 

[Darth Vulcanis]

So, I keep seeing this everywhere in the Hiruzen threads. I have a simple question: Can someone please show me where the manga says so? And please not of that "It was said" nonsense because that doesn't confirm anything.

Notes:

1. This isn't a Hiruzen vs anybody thread, but a simple request. If you start saying "Hiruzen is stronger than XYZ", then you're just friggin' stupid.

2. If you are sick of Hiruzen threads, just leave. I don't give a damn if you hate the fact that this thread was made and bitching about it won't get rid of the thread or stop it from ever being made in the first place.

... and still no real answer from anyone. btw i can't remember any reference to any ninja being truly unstoppable other than original SO6P

 

[ntel]

he was said to be the strongest Hokage but Kishi changed his mind obviously because in part 1 he was still writing the story and decided that in the story line in part 2 Hashirama had to be the strongest.


End of discussion but no doubt prime hiruzen was immensely strong

 

[Thundercles]

Your request will not be filled. There is no other thing in the manga that I know of, other than Iruka's statement, about Hiruzen being the strongest.

But is that not sufficient for you? Since when do we really question a protagonist? Normally, the words of the protagonist is the words of the author.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Your request will not be filled. There is no other thing in the manga that I know of, other than Iruka's statement, about Hiruzen being the strongest.

But is that not sufficient for you? Since when do we really question a protagonist? Normally, the words of the protagonist is the words of the author.

No it's not because Iruka isn't that credible.

And that's not true, for example, Kiba saying he'll become Hokage or the 5 Kage saying they'll beat Madara.