Overrated and Underrated characters and misconceptions

[Vandenre1ch]

Overrated
Nagato-People say he is stronger than Hashirama and can solo Naruto,Bee and Itachi at once.

Itachi-ALOT of people say he is >Kabuto when Kabuto both him and his little bro at once for like 95% of the fight.

Minato-To consider him in Obito's league is serious overrating

Third Raikage-considered top 10 and able to be Sasuke and Minato

Hiruzen-He is not stronger than Hashirama.

Muu and Onoki-Both of them barely makes top 20

Kakashi-Kamui. what else is there io say?

These kind of threads

Underrated
Minato-people also consider him weaker than Itachi,Oro and Jiraiya. Both over and underrated.

Tobirama-not much is known about him but people give him no credit at all not that it matters.

Sasori-Mot even considered in top 20s all because he lost to Sakura and Chiyo

Might Guy- hes in Kakshi's league.

Hanzo-just my opinion

Kabuto(no edos)-He outclassed Itachi and Sasuke at the same time for like 95% of the fight and yet people still say Sasuke/Itachi>Kabuto

Misconceptions
-Muu and 2nd Mizukage are equals yet people put them dimensions apart.

-Minato beat Obito. No. He BARELY defeated 14 year old MS Obito.

-Nagato did so well against Naruto and Bee because he caught them off guard via ambush.

-Hiruzen only double killed Hashi and Tobirama because that was originally their only purpose in the series.

-EDO Itachi defeated Kabuto via forbidden eye technigue. If Kabuto was serious and fightning to kill Itachi would be a mindless puppet and Sasuke in his stomach.

Did I miss anyone?

 

[Deadai]

I agree with this thread, also might want to add Kabuto in the underraited/misconceptions section.

 

[hatake89]

Overrated everyone thats OP.
Underrated everyone that isnt OP. Simple as that

 

[Fecal Matter]

Minoto is overrated but lately we've been getting these cheesy Sakura and Hinata threads so we don't see any other fanbase atm

 

[Phoenix of Chaos]

Overrated
Nagato-People say he is stronger than Hashirama and can solo Naruto,Bee and Itachi at once.

Itachi-ALOT of people say he is >Kabuto when Kabuto both him and his little bro at once for like 95% of the fight.

Minato-To consider him in Obito's league is serious overrating

Third Raikage-considered top 10 and able to be Sasuke and Minato

Hiruzen-He is not stronger than Hashirama.

Muu and Onoki-Both of them barely makes top 20

Kakashi-Kamui. what else is there io say?

These kind of threads

Underrated
Minato-people also consider him weaker than Itachi,Oro and Jiraiya. Both over and underrated.

Tobirama-not much is known about him but people give him no credit at all not that it matters.

Sasori-Mot even considered in top 20s all because he lost to Sakura and Chiyo

Might Guy- hes in Kakshi's league.

Hanzo-just my opinion

Kabuto(no edos)-He outclassed Itachi and Sasuke at the same time for like 95% of the fight and yet people still say Sasuke/Itachi>Kabuto

Misconceptions
-Muu and 2nd Mizukage are equals yet people put them dimensions apart.

-Minato beat Obito. No. He BARELY defeated 14 year old MS Obito.

-Nagato did so well against Naruto and Bee because he caught them off guard via ambush.

-Hiruzen only double killed Hashi and Tobirama because that was originally their only purpose in the series.

-EDO Itachi defeated Kabuto via forbidden eye technigue. If Kabuto was serious and fightning to kill Itachi would be a mindless puppet and Sasuke in his stomach.

Did I miss anyone?

Yh. That whole Kabuto thing.... u do realize that they weren't fighting to kill right? Don't get me wrong though Kabuto is strong, and he did fight smart by blocking out his eyes n what not but don't u think a non-restrained EMS Sasuke and an immortal Itachi with unlimited chakra could've raped him?

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

Fodders in underrated...what ever happened to the good old K11 being the next gen?

 

[thegame]

Nothing proves that Muu and 2nd Mizukage were equals...

Also most of those I have never heard. And you can't give credit to tobirama, when nothing is know..

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Minato did beat Obito though. Doesn't matter if he's 14.

Kakashi also isn't overrated. It doesn't matter if he spams it. Most of the time, that's all it takes. What has Obito been doing for the past 15 years? Not many people have counters to it so that just finishes the fight in a few seconds.

@thegame

Muu and the second Mizukage both died while fighting eachother. It was a stalemate, making them equal.

 

[thegame]

Minato did beat Obito though. Doesn't matter if he's 14.

Kakashi also isn't overrated. It doesn't matter if he spams it. Most of the time, that's all it takes. What has Obito been doing for the past 15 years? Not many people have counters to it so that just finishes the fight in a few seconds.

@thegame

Muu and the second Mizukage both died while fighting eachother. It was a stalemate, making them equal.

Rofl that is idiotic to think that way. One of them (I don't remember who) blew himself up taking the other with him to the grave. That doesn't make them equal. It's like if Deidara uses suicide bomb, and kills the entire shinobi alliance, is he then equal to all of them?

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Yh. That whole Kabuto thing.... u do realize that they weren't fighting to kill right? Don't get me wrong though Kabuto is strong, and he did fight smart by blocking out his eyes n what not but don't u think a non-restrained EMS Sasuke and an immortal Itachi with unlimited chakra could've raped him?

Both sides were holding back and Itachi was an edo. Yet he still had control of most of the fight and could have ended it if he wasnt cocky.

Minato did beat Obito though. Doesn't matter if he's 14.

Kakashi also isn't overrated. It doesn't matter if he spams it. Most of the time, that's all it takes. What has Obito been doing for the past 15 years? Not many people have counters to it so that just finishes the fight in a few seconds.

@thegame

Muu and the second Mizukage both died while fighting eachother. It was a stalemate, making them equal.

People say he can beact Minato, Itachi, Obito etc. all because of kamui.

Minato is still not in Obito's league.

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Rofl that is idiotic to think that way. One of them (I don't remember who) blew himself up taking the other with him to the grave. That doesn't make them equal. It's like if Deidara uses suicide bomb, and kills the entire shinobi alliance, is he then equal to all of them?

Can you show me a scan where it says one of them blew themselves up to take the other one with them to the grave? If you can then I'll believe you.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Minato is crazy overrated on this base.

 

[zinescience]

Overrated everyone thats OP.
Underrated everyone that isnt OP. Simple as that

going with this

 

[Ace of the fire fist]

Both sides were holding back and Itachi was an edo. Yet he still had control of most of the fight and could have ended it if he wasnt cocky.



People say he can beact Minato, Itachi, Obito etc. all because of kamui.

Minato is still not in Obito's league.

I've never seen anyone say that but I doubt you're lying.

I know Obito is stronger than Minato but that's not what I'm talking about. In the OP, under misconception, it says: "Minato beat Obito. No. He BARELY defeated 14 year old MS Obito". It's not a misconception if he actually beat him. And Minato actually didn't struggle. He was just analyzing his kamui... something any smart shinobi would do. Obito's best chance was him trying a sneak attack on Minato... which failed.

 

[Honord Sage]

Naruto will be revealed to be the SO6P in the next Chapter and Master of all, Be ready to be the Manga Fool of the ages.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Can you show me a scan where it says one of them blew themselves up to take the other one with them to the grave? If you can then I'll believe you.

It is said 2nd Mizu got part of his body blown off due to jinton while Muu got hit by jokei boi. Muu used the body-split but was still in fatal condition. Mizu who was also in fatal condition thought he had won until Muu showed up and finished him off. Muu died quickly afterwards from his injuries.

I've never seen anyone say that but I doubt you're lying.

I know Obito is stronger than Minato but that's not what I'm talking about. In the OP, under misconception, it says: "Minato beat Obito. No. He BARELY defeated 14 year old MS Obito". It's not a misconception if he actually beat him. And Minato actually didn't struggle. He was just analyzing his kamui... something any smart shinobi would do. Obito's best chance was him trying a sneak attack on Minato... which failed.

People say Minato>Current Obito when Minato had a time and almost lost to MS Obito. They say since he beat MS Obito he can beat rinnegan Obito who is really not all that different.

 

[Brooks]

Overrated
Nagato-People say he is stronger than Hashirama and can solo Naruto,Bee and Itachi at once.

Itachi-ALOT of people say he is >Kabuto when Kabuto both him and his little bro at once for like 95% of the fight.

Minato-To consider him in Obito's league is serious overrating

Third Raikage-considered top 10 and able to be Sasuke and Minato

Hiruzen-He is not stronger than Hashirama.

Muu and Onoki-Both of them barely makes top 20

Kakashi-Kamui. what else is there io say?

These kind of threads

Underrated
Minato-people also consider him weaker than Itachi,Oro and Jiraiya. Both over and underrated.

Tobirama-not much is known about him but people give him no credit at all not that it matters.

Sasori-Mot even considered in top 20s all because he lost to Sakura and Chiyo

Might Guy- hes in Kakshi's league.

Hanzo-just my opinion

Kabuto(no edos)-He outclassed Itachi and Sasuke at the same time for like 95% of the fight and yet people still say Sasuke/Itachi>Kabuto

Misconceptions
-Muu and 2nd Mizukage are equals yet people put them dimensions apart.

-Minato beat Obito. No. He BARELY defeated 14 year old MS Obito.

-Nagato did so well against Naruto and Bee because he caught them off guard via ambush.

-Hiruzen only double killed Hashi and Tobirama because that was originally their only purpose in the series.

-EDO Itachi defeated Kabuto via forbidden eye technigue. If Kabuto was serious and fightning to kill Itachi would be a mindless puppet and Sasuke in his stomach.

Did I miss anyone?

So, how is Kabuto going to make Itachi a mindless puppet when he already was free from Kabuto's control?

Neither Itachi or Sasuke was fighting to kill Kabuto too...so your argument is invalid...there is a reason why Kishi didn't reveal Sasuke's new EMSU_U

 

[saw2097]

Rofl that is idiotic to think that way. One of them (I don't remember who) blew himself up taking the other with him to the grave. That doesn't make them equal. It's like if Deidara uses suicide bomb, and kills the entire shinobi alliance, is he then equal to all of them?

About the Mizukage and Muu thing. Where was it said one of them blew himself up, I don't remember that.

As for the OT: yeah I agree with you, there are a lot of misconceptions.

 

[TheLastSamurai]

Yh. That whole Kabuto thing.... u do realize that they weren't fighting to kill right? Don't get me wrong though Kabuto is strong, and he did fight smart by blocking out his eyes n what not but don't u think a non-restrained EMS Sasuke and an immortal Itachi with unlimited chakra could've raped him?

I was just planning on saying the same xD
I really notice that ppl forget that fact, if it was a real fight between them with no edo- tensei bs, I would have put my bet on Itachi anyday of the week!

 

[thegame]

Can you show me a scan where it says one of them blew themselves up to take the other one with them to the grave? If you can then I'll believe you.

First off, nothing is know about the situation. We don't know, if they both were at full strength from start, where it was, or if one ambushed the other.

Anyway, I thought it was directly said in the manga, but it isn't. But Muu in chapter 525 directly says that he killed the 2nd mizukage, and the mizukage is sort of asking if he killed Muu too. Judging from their techniques, 2nd mizukage has his jouki boy, which could kill anyone even after he dies.
And Muu has no real defense against jouki boy.

Besides the OP said that they were "equal" so they should be around same spot in lists. Even if they did have a complete tie in a 1 vs 1, with all equal battle conditions, it wouldn't make them equal in a top 20 list, because that is ABC logic, which everyone knows doesn't work, when making such lists. You need to compare them with other shinobi as well..