[Spoilers] The Truth About Uchiha Madara

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I was lookin up pictures and I came across this at first it seemed a little farfetched but if you think about it, it kinda makes sense, here it is:

*mind the type-o's*

'Madara is allegedly the first person of the uchiha clan the son of the tengu god and a hyuuga clan women. he is said to be evil because he had asked a demon to give him powers to defeat his father who had attempted to steal his body like orichimaru with sasuke. the tengu godHyuuga clan is one of the oldest clans in Konoha. They have been there ever since the establishment of the hidden village. Many years ago there was a girl from Hyuuga clan who fell in love with an outsider that didn?t belong to the village. She decided to marry herself to the young man despite the strong protests from her own clan. But this man was no ordinary human. In fact, this man was not a human at all. His name was Sojobo. He was the King of Tengu.

There were two types of tengus, Karasu tengu (a crow-like creature with beak and wings) and Konoha tengu (also known as Yamabushi tengu). Sojobo was a Konoha tengu. He had long nose and white hair with a pair of black wings on his back. As the King of Tengu, Sojobo possessed some very mystical powers. He carried a fan made of Fatsia leaf that could create a storm (therefore people sometimes call this type of leaf as Tengu no Uchiwa or Tengu?s fan). He could teleport himself or any other things from one place to another. He could also communicate with people telepathically or even invade their minds and drive them to madness. Besides, Sojobo was also known for his shapeshifting ability. He sometimes transformed himself into human to interact with people.

Anyway, this girl from Hyuuga was in love with Sojobo taking the human form without knowing his true identity. She married him shortly after they met each other. A year or two later, she was pregnant and gave birth to their first son. Sojobo named this son Uchiha, Uchiha Madara, after Uchiwa which means fan. And of course as we know, fan also later became the symbol of this new clan.

Everything was good. Uchiha Madara soon grew up to become a very powerful shinobi. He not only inherited the Kekkei Genkai from his mother but with the Tengu blood inside him the Byakugan had evolved into an even more dreadful form?the Sharingan! This new bloodline had 2 levels: Normal Sharingan and Mangekyou Sharingan. Like his tengu father, Madara possessed some incredible magical powers. He was able to use telepathy to invade people?s minds, or even teleport himself across a short distance. When he turned on the Mangekyou Sharingan (he had the normal Sharingan on 24/7 just like his Hyuuga kin), the eyes would further intensify his powers and bring him even closer to a tengu form. He had developed 3 jutsus under this state, namely Tsukiyomi (to control people?s minds and drive them insane), Amaterasu (to teleport objects into another dimension)* and Susanoo (to create a storm like the one created by the Tengu?s fan).

Because of his bravery and almost unparalleled powers, Madara soon became a hero in his people?s eyes despite the fact that he was just a teenager at that time. He became very close friends with Shodaime and together they took up the responsibility to protect the village. Madara founded the first police force in Konoha and swore to protect his people with his own life.

But good things do not last long. As Madara was about to reach his adulthood, Sojobo began to reveal his true intention. Sojobo didn?t marry the girl from Hyuuga out of love. He was only looking for a perfect body, a container (probably to achieve greater powers), and he figured the best way was to create one with his own blood. He was planning on taking over Madara?s body once he reached his adulthood. It didn?t take Uchiha Madara long to find out this appalling truth. He felt a mixture of shock and anger. He felt he was being used but he wasn?t going to give in such easily, at least not without a fight. But Madara knew only too well that no matter how strong he was he stood no chance against the King of Tengu. Out of desperation he sought for the legendary Bijuu?Kyuubi (the God of Fire).

Kyuubi was very impressed by Madara?s abilities. A secret pact was made and Kyuubi agreed to lend his power and chakra to Uchiha Madara. Soon Madara mastered the katon and he could even cast a dark fire that would burn for 7 days and 7 nights after performing the Amaterasu. But even with these newly gained powers and a huge supply of chakra from the Kyuubi, Uchiha Madara was only able to beat his demon father by a hair's breadth. He couldn?t finish him once and for all but only managed to seal him up. However, the seal he used was a very special one. To break the seal it requires the Kyuubi's chakra and also not one but 3 Uchiha members who can wield the Mangekyou Sharingan. Each MS user has to cast a different MS jutsu at the same time and when the 3 jutsus--Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo--combine, the great evil will be unleashed. It's a tall order and Madara thought it would be enough to seal up the demon for eternity. But what Madara didn?t anticipate was that this seal itself would bring a bloody massacre upon his own clan many decades later?

Here I will derail a bit and talk about the friendship between Shodaime and Madara. When Shodai found out about the secret pact between Madara and Kyuubi he was enraged. He thought it was hunger for greater power that led his best friend to the Kyuubi. Madara didn?t explain to him either because he didn?t want anyone to know he was a half-demon. Conflicts began to appear between the two who were once close to each other. The intense hostility eventually resulted in a great battle at the Valley of the End. (You might thought that I depicted Madara as too strong a character and therefore be skeptical that Shodai could rival both MS and Kyuubi?s power at the same time. Well you better not forget that Shodai had the ability to suppress Kyuubi?s chakra and his darkness jutsu and suiton might be very good counter-moves to Madara's Sharingan and katon respectively as well.)
The tengu?s blood in Uchiha clan was now no longer as pure as it once was. It was gradually being ?diluted? by constant marriages with non-Uchihas over the generations. Now even the Normal Sharingan was possessed by only the elite few among Uchihas, let alone the Mangekyou Sharingan. But the dark history of the clan was anything but forgotten. A tengu shrine was built underneath the Nakano temple by some of the early Uchihas to keep all the secrets of the clan inside (including killing your loved one to gain MS which was discovered by some later Uchiha). Once an Uchiha member was thought to be reliable enough he would be informed about the secret meeting place and it would then become his life-long obligation to keep these secrets from outsiders. The Uchihas considered this dark history as a huge disgrace and swore to protect the glory and dignity of their clan with their lives no matter what happened.

so now i think that sasukes brother itachi will try to convince him, sasuke and kakashi to fight each other over where tengu lays to summon the god who will wreak havoc and then only the akatsuki will live. its only a theory thought"

so wat do you think of that?
 

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yea, this has been posted before.. and btw, madara was not the founder of the uhichas.. he was the leader
....lol.......you BELIEVED Madara?

There are alot of holes in this theory
...or there could be holes in Madara's story.

quite some holes but a nice read ;)
One of these holes is Madara had a brother.
Remember to take what Madara stated with a grain of salt......some of this could be the real truth...I wouldn't be surprised.....so keep an open mind....
 

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....lol.......you BELIEVED Madara?

...or there could be holes in Madara's story.


Remember to take what Madara stated with a grain of salt......some of this could be the real truth...I wouldn't be surprised.....so keep an open mind....

The manga is called ' Naruto", not "The Sharingan". That thoery puts Uchihas as central characters, which is just not right.


Madara's story had holes - there is no doubt about it. But that doesn't make this theory true for the manga.

Kishi got his ideas from a lost of ancient myths and folk tales or whatever around him . He picked characters too at times. Like Jiraiya , Tsunade and Orochimaru. In the original story with Jiraiya the toad , Tusnade was his wife and orochimaru his follower. Later on the follower tried to kill them and almost succeeded.

There are tailed beasts in the Japanese mythology but then Oro should be the eight tailed as eight tailed is supposed to be eight headed and eight tailed snake. And so on...

Now the idea of crows and Uchiha powers might have been picked from Tengu god tale but the manga doesn't follow that story in the least. Hugas are never once hinted to be related with Uchiha's. Sasuke doesn't think Hinata as her cousin or relative...

Tengu god is not even around in any form.... Madara is not a nobel knight seeking power only to fight his own super evil father. Contratory to this theory Madara, is not even founder of the Uchiha clan but, co-founder of Konoha. He was just the leader of Uchihas.

Madara was never a childhood friend of the first hokage. He was a rival. Later on both decided to join forces and founded Konoha. Madara didn.t form the police form. Police force by Uchiha was idea of the second hokage- younger brother of the first. He tried to appease Uchihas and give them a decent amount of controle in the village administration and a substential share in power.

Danzou didn't like this power sharing and hence he was after strong action against Uchihas... Increasing the friction...


I think If Uchihas had enough patience they could have go a hokage from their own clan too in time... Itachi did have leadership qualities, talent and brains... (Anybody up for disscussion on it and interested in making a thread? I'm too lazy to do it myself. lol...)
 
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Over half of the things mentioned arent even in the manga, who the hell is tengu? and where does it say madara is related to him in some way?

Until i see manga chapters stating these "facts" its made up fan fic
 

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everyone who says madara's story is fake is probablly wrong.Madara didnt need to make up a story like that to sasuke and i doubt kishi had him make it up. This was a cool theory and it was a good read but does anyone actully think that kishi would add this into the manga. Wouldnt that be alittle much? Yes we are going to learn more about madara i bet but i doubt he is a half demon or that he created uchiha. He was the leader because he had a powerful chakra and him and Izuna were the firsts uchihas to awaken the MS so they rose to power.
This theory is way over the top and if the Tengu was really part of it, he prolly would have been mentioned by now. His picture is shown in the fire temple and the uchiha secret meeting place but i bet kishi threw that in there because of the actual mythology behind it.

Japanese mythology is placed alot in naruto but it is changed to,
Jiraiya and Tsunade and orochimaru are in the tails of the gallient jiraiya where tsunade is his wife and orochimaru is his follower, in Naruto it is changed all three are equal no relationship and so on and so forth,

The tailed beasts- there are 9 tailed beasts in mythology and in naruto, yes the kyuubi is the king of beasts and they even mention that it was a 2 tailed cat in mythology but the 2 tails was the pet of the death god in mythology and its name in naruto is "the living ghost" no death powers and it is added to have a cool affect. If kishi wanted to use mythology as an actual bases he would have made 8 tails completely different. The 8 tails was actully many heads of snakes called orochimaru, in naruto its a big bull like creature that is also in mythology somewhere, the 8 tails orochimaru challenged kyuubi and got his ass kicked after a centry of fighting.

This is all stuff Kishi is adding to make you think more than you need to, hes not really going to make madara a half demon, he is a human

Cool read but its not true
 

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everyone who says madara's story is fake is probablly wrong.Madara didnt need to make up a story like that to sasuke and i doubt kishi had him make it up. This was a cool theory and it was a good read but does anyone actully think that kishi would add this into the manga. Wouldnt that be alittle much? Yes we are going to learn more about madara i bet but i doubt he is a half demon or that he created uchiha. He was the leader because he had a powerful chakra and him and Izuna were the firsts uchihas to awaken the MS so they rose to power.
This theory is way over the top and if the Tengu was really part of it, he prolly would have been mentioned by now. His picture is shown in the fire temple and the uchiha secret meeting place but i bet kishi threw that in there because of the actual mythology behind it.

Japanese mythology is placed alot in naruto but it is changed to,
Jiraiya and Tsunade and orochimaru are in the tails of the gallient jiraiya where tsunade is his wife and orochimaru is his follower, in Naruto it is changed all three are equal no relationship and so on and so forth,

The tailed beasts- there are 9 tailed beasts in mythology and in naruto, yes the kyuubi is the king of beasts and they even mention that it was a 2 tailed cat in mythology but the 2 tails was the pet of the death god in mythology and its name in naruto is "the living ghost" no death powers and it is added to have a cool affect. If kishi wanted to use mythology as an actual bases he would have made 8 tails completely different. The 8 tails was actully many heads of snakes called orochimaru, in naruto its a big bull like creature that is also in mythology somewhere, the 8 tails orochimaru challenged kyuubi and got his ass kicked after a centry of fighting.

This is all stuff Kishi is adding to make you think more than you need to, hes not really going to make madara a half demon, he is a human

Cool read but its not true
I know this has its holes but it isnt to bad it gives us an expansion of our ideas of what Uchiha Madara really is, I think it says he created the Uchiha Clan because wasnt Madara and his brother the first to activate sharingan and MS sharingan?

Anyways, even if this is all made up it seems to be the most thorough and most detailed
story of Madara, I've ever read
to me it seems like a more believable scenario than that stupid rumor
'Obito Is Madara' Crap

Just in case you ever come accross that rumor or still think it
remember wat we said many months ago
'Obito is not Madara, Obito is a one-eyed decaying pancake, he's not Akatsuki Leader Madara aka Tobi'
 
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