Proof Kishi is trolling Us on Rinne Tensei (Outer Path Samsara of Heaven)

[IIB7252]

Outher Path: Samsara of Heaven -
By channelling their power through the King of Hell, the Rinnegan wielder can re-infuse new life force energy to the bodies of those who have died. With their rejuvenated bodies acting as an anchor, the individual souls are then able to leave even the crossroad between life and the afterlife, returning back to their physical vessels. The technique targets all the individuals killed, even those not necessarily killed by the user.
At the time Nagato used , it seemed like the ability was something that could only be used on the recently deceased(Time Limit), In the manga Nagato clearly says there is still time to save those ppl that he killed when he came to konoha. Thats why he wasnt able "bring back Jiraiya?"

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Then, recently we've heard the real Madara Uchiha comment on his own "resurrection" and said that He should have been revived with the Rinne Tensei No Jutsu This of course would indicate that the Rinne Tensei does have the power to bring back people who have died from long ago.

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It is unknown whether Nagato himself was aware of this, because if he was, then it would seem likely he would have striven to master the power to bring back Yahiko.

I am pretty sure Obito knew about it doesnt it make sense he could have brought RIN back with Outer Path..

So, there lots of question like
1) How was Madara aware of the capabilities of the Rinne Tensei? Did he try to use the ability himself?
Can we assume this as he stated he awakened the Rinnegan just shortly before he himself died. If so big if of course who would he have tried to bring back from the dead?
2) Why didnt Nagato revive Jiraya and Yahiko?
3) Why didnt obito revive Rin?

I am confused did kishi change his plan after reviving konoha ppl about Outer Path or is he TROLLING with us:shrug::shrug::shrug:...

 

[mun]

cause if obito or nagato uses it they will die

 

[Lightbringer]

I made a similar thread before and I posed the possibility that in order to bring back someone from a long time ago, means you have to sacrifice your life.

However when Nagato cast it, he brought back people that were within the "time limit" and only died due to having no chakra left.

Konan even said that "if he uses it now with these chakra levels" indicates that she knows what the tech is and how much chakra it takes and says it like he could survive if he had more

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[O B I T O]

no he do not troll

 

[Naruto hinata]

even i have doubt about it !!

 

[xXBlazinNinXx]

I know but maybe cause he didn't knew the extent of the power? But I do smell some fishy shit going though

 

[Sage of Nature Creation]

cause if obito or nagato uses it they will die

No, nagato died because he ran out of chakra, and you don't die if you use it.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Not only that, but why does it kill the user now....when Nagato used it Konan made it abundantly clear that the reason Nagato would die was because of his chakra was basically gone at that point.

My only guess would be if one uses Rinne Tensei to bring back older or car off deaths it either requires the transfer of the caster's life, or it just takes thst much more chakra...

I agree that it makes little sense

 

[IIB7252]

even i have doubt about it !!

Atleast some second thoughts with me... + rep
Nice sig man...
Can u do what she is doing ;-)

 

[vandell]

Good job kishi is trolling us and neji will be back

 

[IIB7252]

Not only that, but why does it kill the user now....when Nagato used it Konan made it abundantly clear that the reason Nagato would die was because of his chakra was basically gone at that point.

My only guess would be if one uses Rinne Tensei to bring back older or car off deaths it either requires the transfer of the caster's life, or it just takes thst much more chakra...

I agree that it makes little sense

True...

No, nagato died because he ran out of chakra, and you don't die if you use it.

Yes

I know but maybe cause he didn't knew the extent of the power? But I do smell some fishy shit going though

Exactly...

I thought i will be flamed for questioning Kishi....

 

[Lindów2]

Why are you asking how Madara knew the capacity of the Rinnegan? He was the man that planned the return of Juubi, so is it hard to believe that he stumbled upon its limitations.


Secondly, Nagato is an Uzumaki. He possesses an unreal amount of chakra, and is likely why Madara infused his eyes into Nagato to begin with. With such a large chakra pool, he could essentially use Rinne Tensei to its full capabilities, which would fall into Madara's scheme as well.

And as for Nagato not using it to provide Yahiko, it's likely that he tried to bring back Yahiko using the Six Path body function, but failed before Obito mentioned the technique. With Yahiko out the way, Obito would have a much easier time influencing Nagato's decisions.

Rinne Tensei kills its caster in return for resurrected the deceased, which means Obito could not complete Mugen Tsukuyomi.

 

[Sir Blades]

it has to do with the chakra nagato had left, he didn't have enough to revive those prior to the attack of konoha.

 

[IIB7252]

I made a similar thread before and I posed the possibility that in order to bring back someone from a long time ago, means you have to sacrifice your life.

However when Nagato cast it, he brought back people that were within the "time limit" and only died due to having no chakra left.

Konan even said that "if he uses it now with these chakra levels" indicates that she knows what the tech is and how much chakra it takes and says it like he could survive if he had more

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Post me ur thread link I will go through it...

What u r saying can be true...
But it doesnt make sense at least to me...

 

[Kages]

He is lol

 

[Lightbringer]

Post me ur thread link I will go through it...

What u r saying can be true...
But it doesnt make sense at least to me...

The thread itself was just me posing questions to the limits of Rinne Tensei and why didn't Nagato bring back yahiko, etc....it wasn't really a theory thread

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But as I've said, I think rinne tensei has 2 options.

1. Bring back people who've died recently at the expense of chakra.....could be more than one

2. Bring back someone from a long time ago at the expense of your life

It would make sense as to why he didn't bring back jiraiya or Yahiko

 

[xXBlazinNinXx]

it has to do with the chakra nagato had left, he didn't have enough to revive those prior to the attack of konoha.

Maybe but Konan said it was too late for the ones that died long ago (which she meant j man). Or did someone else say that? Lol I'm off my naruto game ATM

 

[Sir Blades]

Maybe but Konan said it was too late for the ones that died long ago (which she meant j man). Or did someone else say that? Lol I'm off my naruto game ATM

read lightbringer's post on this thread, it shows the page where konan worries about nagato's levels meaning chakra, and that if the uses it he might die.

 

[HashiramasStrongerCousin1]

Well, Madara could have used Rinne Tensei on Obito, which is how he lived after getting crushed by the boulder. However, that doesn't say how long a person has to be dead before the Rinne Tensei no longer works, or if it even has a time limit in the first place.

 

[IIB7252]

The thread itself was just me posing questions to the limits of Rinne Tensei and why didn't Nagato bring back yahiko, etc....it wasn't really a theory thread

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But as I've said, I think rinne tensei has 2 options.

1. Bring back people who've died recently at the expense of chakra.....could be more than one

2. Bring back someone from a long time ago at the expense of your life

It would make sense as to why he didn't bring back jiraiya or Yahiko

I will go through ur thread now...

Maybe but Konan said it was too late for the ones that died long ago (which she meant j man). Or did someone else say that? Lol I'm off my naruto game ATM

Exactly

Well, Madara could have used Rinne Tensei on Obito, which is how he lived after getting crushed by the boulder. However, that doesn't say how long a person has to be dead before the Rinne Tensei no longer works, or if it even has a time limit in the first place.

No If he did he could have come back sound and healthy dear...
As far as time goes in manga nagato clearly says that there is a time limit