madara is not the same level as SO6P...

[saar0507]

a lot of madara fan boys said that madara in his currect state is equal to the sage and evan stronger... that not true due to a simple manga statment:

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kabuto said: "the sage of six path finally i can see a part of the god's strength"

according to that i can tell that madara have only a part of the sage power... he is not evan close to be as strong as the sage...

we can see in the fight between obito and konan

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that madara and obito have only 3 path:
sharingan, rinngan, wood style... both of them dont have the sage chakra (evan if madara have infinity chakra he dont have the sage chakra, only naruto have his chakra i belive that y Biju MOD look like the sage). the sage chakra allow him to use many powerfull jutsu for a long time for example izanagi: some one like obito can use it for only 10 minuets while the sage can use it to create things... we didnt saw madara using that ability yet and i belive he cant use it like the sage can...

therefore madara is very strong but he only have the sage eyes and not his chakra...

 

[Fusion Reborn]

No shit, Sherlock

 

[The Necromancer]

Well yeah... who says he is?

 

[saar0507]

No shit, Sherlock

just stating some facts to the fanboys who said they are same level

 

[saar0507]

Well yeah... who says he is?

i saw a lot of thread who said that since he have rinngan and both senju and uchiha clan powers he have all of sage powers and no one can defeat him

 

[Colonel Armstrong]

homie? do we know everything the sage can do to full extent? nope
is most of the older shinobis overrated? kinda
can you sleep on madara's power? you really shouldnt

moral of this story....never mind the fan boys

 

[Brooks]

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[Kages]

Agreed

 

[TheBrightSide]

Madara is probably stronger than pre-jinchuriki SO6P. After that though, obviously with the Juubi Madara is outmatched.

 

[Jordanofthecloud]

Those 2 people didnt read your thread. Just your title.

I say, good job!

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

madara has a fragment of the so6p's power, so of course you are right, advice don't let other people get to you when its about something that obvious and that clear (no need for a thread)

 

[TheBrightSide]

madara has a fragment of the so6p's power, so of course you are right, advice don't let other people get to you when its about something that obvious and that clear (no need for a thread)

I think that there is a misconception here. Anybody who assumes that the Madara is equal/above the sage in anyway when he is in possession of the Juubi is just an idiot. Konahamaru with the Juubi is stronger than Madara or any character for that matter. However if youre talking about the sage previous to becoming the Juubi jinchuriki, then Madara probably stands a pretty solid chance. You just have to take into account his treasured tools and sealing techs.

 

[Valen]

No shit, Sherlock

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[garas56]

So6p>Madara 100 times of 100

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Madara is nowhere near the Rikudo Sennin's level.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well duh, Madara is nowhere near his level.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

I think that there is a misconception here. Anybody who assumes that the Madara is equal/above the sage in anyway when he is in possession of the Juubi is just an idiot. Konahamaru with the Juubi is stronger than Madara or any character for that matter. However if youre talking about the sage previous to becoming the Juubi jinchuriki, then Madara probably stands a pretty solid chance. You just have to take into account his treasured tools and sealing techs.

previous to becoming the juubi jinchuuriki huh ?? and what do you know of the so6p BEFORE he became the so6p jinchuuriki ?? as far as am concerned when kabuto brought madara back combined with hashi's cells (uchiha and senju power in one body) he said that finely he will get to see a fragment of the sage's power (he was talking about the madara without the juubi) so that can also mean that the uchiha and senju power comes from originally from the so6p not what the juuubi gave the so6p. did i loose you ??

 

[TheBrightSide]

previous to becoming the juubi jinchuuriki huh ?? and what do you know of the so6p BEFORE he became the so6p jinchuuriki ?? as far as am concerned when kabuto brought madara back combined with hashi's cells (uchiha and senju power in one body) he said that finely he will get to see a fragment of the sage's power (he was talking about the madara without the juubi) so that can also mean that the uchiha and senju power comes from originally from the so6p not what the juuubi gave the so6p. did i loose you ??

The theory basically is based on the premise that the sage was an Uzumaki who just knew fuinjutsu. It is getting more and more blatant that the Uchiha and Senju powers come from the Juubi itself as opposed to the sage himself.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

The theory basically is based on the premise that the sage was an Uzumaki who just knew fuinjutsu. It is getting more and more blatant that the Uchiha and Senju powers come from the Juubi itself as opposed to the sage himself.

oh i knew it, i knew that you were saying this because you believe in that theory ..... well sorry bro but i never agreed to anything that theory said, until the manga states ANYTHING that supports this theory then i might consider it, until then the so6p's origin is unknown. no uzumaki can do what the sage did and mito (hashi's wife) for example needed hashi to suppress the kyuubi so she can seal it (sealing tecks alone is far from enough). now you are speaking of the juubi (creator and destroyer of worlds) not kurama, so think about how much of a strong the sealing tech is required .... also that uzumaki theory never explained how or where did the so6p get his weapons from ?? sorry but this theory actually raises more questions and until proven its just a theory

 

[TheBrightSide]

oh i knew it, i knew that you were saying this because you believe in that theory ..... well sorry bro but i never agreed to anything that theory said, until the manga states ANYTHING that supports this theory then i might consider it, until then the so6p's origin is unknown. no uzumaki can do what the sage did and mito (hashi's wife) for example needed hashi to suppress the kyuubi so she can seal it (sealing tecks alone is far from enough). now you are speaking of the juubi (creator and destroyer of worlds) not kurama, so think about how much of a strong the sealing tech is required .... also that uzumaki theory never explained how or where did the so6p get his weapons from ?? sorry but this theory actually raises more questions and until proven its just a theory

I can get that. There are obviously questions that still need to be answered. However, we have seen the Juubi with a rinnegan and use mokuton. It is almost all but confirmed that the Juubi is the originator of the Uchiha and Senju powers. As far as the sage being an Uzumaki isnt all that relevant to this thread i suppose. Although i dont understand how people are still clinging to the notion that the SO6P was born with all the powers that the Juubi coincidentally has also.