its almost impossible to beat itachi if you are no dojutsu user.

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Most ninja can kill Jiraiya while he is trying to gather sage energy. He is a fodder ninja, Minato is nothing, take his kunai away and he is fodder. Base speed? Please. I'd like to see him outrun base speed Itachi.
You say "Most" Ninja..... Please, how come Pain wasn't able to defeat him while entering sage mode? He's a very incredible Ninja that sadly didn't get to show his true potential.

Minato doesn't need his kunai to place a seal, he merely uses a kunai within a battle for an advantage, it isn't needed. Regardless... You don't take away peoples abilities to suit you. He has other incredible abilities such as rasengan, vast amount of seals and his intelligence.
 

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You say "Most" Ninja..... Please, how come Pain wasn't able to defeat him while entering sage mode? He's a very incredible Ninja that sadly didn't get to show his true potential.

Minato doesn't need his kunai to place a seal, he merely uses a kunai within a battle for an advantage, it isn't needed. Regardless... You don't take away peoples abilities to suit you. He has other incredible abilities such as rasengan, vast amount of seals and his intelligence.
I see no major feats of intelligence. Let's see... Two of his students are still alive, one has killed more good ninja than you can count, the other is a nuisance with a sharingan he's not even proficient with. Minato is fodder and overrated. Weakest Kage.
 

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I see no major feats of intelligence. Let's see... Two of his students are still alive, one has killed more good ninja than you can count, the other is a nuisance with a sharingan he's not even proficient with. Minato is fodder and overrated. Weakest Kage.
I can see why you don't see them... Because, those aren't feat's of intelligence. What his students do has nothing to do with Minato. Minato did what he did. Kakashi was a jounin that is cable of leading his own team, what happens during his Mission has nothing to do with Minato...

Minato has shown great feat's on intelligence, i personally believe that you are either in denial, and refuse to acknowledge his abilities or you're doing this to troll on purpose.

None on base can call Minato of Fodder without it being a lie.
 

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I can see why you don't see them... Because, those aren't feat's of intelligence. What his students do has nothing to do with Minato. Minato did what he did. Kakashi was a jounin that is cable of leading his own team, what happens during his Mission has nothing to do with Minato...

Minato has shown great feat's on intelligence, i personally believe that you are either in denial, and refuse to acknowledge his abilities or you're doing this to troll on purpose.

None on base can call Minato of Fodder without it being a lie.
He is fodder, and i stand by that statement. Minato has FTG, Rasengan, Shiki Fujin, and other shit that's not worth mentioning. If you have a character that is fast, and can take out Minato before he pulls out that Kunai, than Minato is nothing. If Minato does use FTG, big deal, burn the seals off his Kunai with fire jutsu. Minato is the weakest Hokage and one of the weakest Kage in general. Most dojutsu users will have no problem with him.
 

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He is fodder, and i stand by that statement. Minato has FTG, Rasengan, Shiki Fujin, and other shit that's not worth mentioning. If you have a character that is fast, and can take out Minato before he pulls out that Kunai, than Minato is nothing. If Minato does use FTG, big deal, burn the seals off his Kunai with fire jutsu. Minato is the weakest Hokage and one of the weakest Kage in general. Most dojutsu users will have no problem with him.
I don't understand what your saying... Those techniques that you mentioned are incredibly effective.. Even do the stage that the fastest Shinobi alive couldn't lay a finger on him, ofc i refer to the "Forth Raikage".

He also has incredible Summons, which are no only strong but they posses great intelligence. Personally i'm going to end this conversation because i don't want to get in to a debate when your clearly in denial....

Your opinion is your opinion....
 

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I don't understand what your saying... Those techniques that you mentioned are incredibly effective.. Even do the stage that the fastest Shinobi alive couldn't lay a finger on him, ofc i refer to the "Forth Raikage".

He also has incredible Summons, which are no only strong but they posses great intelligence. Personally i'm going to end this conversation because i don't want to get in to a debate when your clearly in denial....

Your opinion is your opinion....
You are done i win.
 

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You are done i win.
You don't win anything... You clearly stated nothing that was more than a pathetic attempt to start a debate about nothing. I could sit and post a bunch facts and manga pages showing how effective his abilities are and how intelligent he is... Although, what would be the point in that considering that you would just say " Nahhh" and "He's fodder" Without giving any logical explanation apart from the fact that you dislike him..

The difference between me and you is that i have an open mind... I actually acknowledge everyones abilities when i set out a hypothetical fight or wither i'm just talking about them in general... :)
 

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You don't win anything... You clearly stated nothing that was more than a pathetic attempt to start a debate about nothing. I could sit and post a bunch facts and manga pages showing how effective his abilities are and how intelligent he is... Although, what would be the point in that considering that you would just say " Nahhh" and "He's fodder" Without giving any logical explanation apart from the fact that you dislike him..

The difference between me and you is that i have an open mind... I actually acknowledge everyones abilities when i set out a hypothetical fight or wither i'm just talking about them in general... :)
Then you should know that Danzo hits Minato with KA before he even has the chance to take a step Danzo>Goku
 
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